This thread is for discussion of Image Retrieval, posted November 8, 2006 on Data Node One.
Image Retrieval - November 8, 2006
59 posts · 2006-11-08 17:02:06 to 2006-11-15 23:59:29
<3 This is Gona be awsome for Player & Live RP events ... Cant wait to just Chill in a club 
Happy days, Vector.
Hah! Nice one!
P.S. Walrus, can you please, please check you PM's. It regards the MXO Ad Contest.
P.S. Walrus, can you please, please check you PM's. It regards the MXO Ad Contest.
Eh, I guess that's pretty cool. Dont gotta worry about getting gank'd if ya wanna chill.
- RedLynk
- RedLynk
Thank You Devs Finally a neutral Place to Chill out on Vector this is gonna be one of the best patches Ever
supersdcurge wrote:
<3 This is Gona be awsome for Player & Live RP events ... Cant wait to just Chill in a clubIt means we can party
Vector's needed some "Safe" zones for quite a while, now.While some might say that it destroys the realism of being able to be attacked at any time, in any place, it's also true that in the ACTUAL Matrix (if you can say such a thing), you wouldn't want to start any fights in an area full of bluepills.
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Recursion: n - See Recursion.
agree considering were Still on a Truce
Cool though a bit surprising that this didnt roll out with the force PVP zone they came out with awhile back.
I feel like reviving SNOW now...
Org controlled clubs would be good... but just a
de-pvp-zone on Vector with nothing else behind it sort of defies the
entire purpose of Vector. If people can go run into a "safe zone"
whenever they're being chased - especially at Mara, of all places,
just... wow. /face and /follow are already getting nerfed... as if it
wasn't easy enough to escape from pvp?
I do recognize that this will be good for events and parties and such, but other aspects of
the server lead me to question if this is a good idea or not,
especially given the LOCATION of such a zone.
de-pvp-zone on Vector with nothing else behind it sort of defies the
entire purpose of Vector. If people can go run into a "safe zone"
whenever they're being chased - especially at Mara, of all places,
just... wow. /face and /follow are already getting nerfed... as if it
wasn't easy enough to escape from pvp?
I do recognize that this will be good for events and parties and such, but other aspects of
the server lead me to question if this is a good idea or not,
especially given the LOCATION of such a zone.
*is happy for the flagged vectorians* meybe Polyvinyl is not the best place
Scenario:
Oh no I'm being chased by 6 people... run from mara c into polyvinyl, yay i"m safe...
annnyways cool.. Should put it in all the churches so people can shout, SANCTUARY!!!
Scenario:
Oh no I'm being chased by 6 people... run from mara c into polyvinyl, yay i"m safe...
annnyways cool.. Should put it in all the churches so people can shout, SANCTUARY!!!
Cool stuff. Yea would have though they had this before, but good for people on vector.
Okay guys! Instead of meeting at Mara West, let's all get recalled into Polyvinyl and buff up there instead! I'll bring UGM and recall!
he did say test. so im sure poly wont be the final, if there is to be only one, safe haven from pvp. pretty cool, tho.
Ought to solve the problem of PVP during LET meetings.
Cool stuff guys! Now there's both flames and ice in the dev aresenal.
Congratulations vector people! =D
HighAngel_Recursion wrote:
LOL, thats perfect man!
*is happy for the flagged vectorians* meybe Polyvinyl is not the best place
Scenario:
Oh no I'm being chased by 6 people... run from mara c into polyvinyl, yay i"m safe...
annnyways cool.. Should put it in all the churches so people can shout, SANCTUARY!!!
LOL, thats perfect man!
Hmm oh, well I could pop it in a different club if Mara is problematic.
for Vector it is since Mara is the kind of the main PvP area on the server... how about Sphinx?
welll i was thinkin either dualty is good club kinda in the Center of Richland and dualty seems to be my fav club in richland
One humble request adressed to Rarebit: Pick the best looking clubs for Pacification Zones, if you please.
On Vector, I think they will be as Borat says: "a great success."
Edit: I guess although it's not as flashy as some other clubs, Club Messiah might be a good one to pacify because of the imagery associated to that particular club's name.
On Vector, I think they will be as Borat says: "a great success."
Edit: I guess although it's not as flashy as some other clubs, Club Messiah might be a good one to pacify because of the imagery associated to that particular club's name.
Oh Sweet Merciful Crap! That's awesome. Finally, people will stop causing random fights during LE meetings, etc.
The only thing is, now the entire Polyvinyl club on Vector will have that annoying blue haze around it for eternity. I'm not personally on that server, so I really don't care. However, I know I would hate it. You don't think you could dissable the graphic for the permanant ones and just leave the system message? Just for the permanant ones. Temps need some sort of graphic to be aware.
mara, def not a good idea. but the idea of pacifaction zones is cool. although i can imagine..six months down the road. some pacifaction zone will be the new mara. and reds will be always waiting outside to ambush people coming out or goin in. the door wil always be crowded with people on each side antagonizing eachother like when barriers get put up for events, lol.
funny. i cant wait.
Hey, cool, maybe people will actually hang out in the clubs instead of around telephone booths out on the street 
And yeah, even though I don't play on Vector, I know that Polyvinyl wouldn't be good. On top of being too close to Mara C, it's also kind of a weak-sauce club. Better to do something spiffy like Duality or Avalon. Then again, those two are unique in Richland, so maybe you should do Sphinx or Sanguine since they're the basic run-of-the-mill clubs... though maybe not Sanguine since that means "bloody." That should be open for PvP
Better go with Sphinx, I'd say.
And yeah, even though I don't play on Vector, I know that Polyvinyl wouldn't be good. On top of being too close to Mara C, it's also kind of a weak-sauce club. Better to do something spiffy like Duality or Avalon. Then again, those two are unique in Richland, so maybe you should do Sphinx or Sanguine since they're the basic run-of-the-mill clubs... though maybe not Sanguine since that means "bloody." That should be open for PvP
Better go with Sphinx, I'd say.
Rarebit and Walrus,
I hope you have thought of the combination of the luggables and the pacification zone. You wouldn't want anyone carrying a luggable to enter and stay in a pacification area, especially if that luggable gives beneficial affects to the org carrying it.
So hopefully luggables will be dropped upon entering a non pvp zone.
This is wrong.
That system may be useful in some cases, but permanent installation is wrong.
Suggesting that we are incapable of peaceful multi-org gatherings is insulting, accepting that assessment as truth is far worse.
Despite popular belief, Vectorites are capable of restraint. we do not need permanent nullification fields in our world.
/disagree (x2)
That system may be useful in some cases, but permanent installation is wrong.
Suggesting that we are incapable of peaceful multi-org gatherings is insulting, accepting that assessment as truth is far worse.
Despite popular belief, Vectorites are capable of restraint. we do not need permanent nullification fields in our world.
/disagree (x2)
I really like this direction, but because of the server it must be thought out correctly...which I think you're doing.
I love the temp. area so that it will disable the people that like to disrupt events. There are many events in the past that have been ruined because of pvp and idiots. This, I hope, will make Rarebit happier while doing events on Vector, which in turn, will make Vector a better place.
If.....IF....you decide to do permanant ones please keep them in out of the way areas and away from org districts like appolyon, camon, midian, mara, moriah etc...
That way it won't disrupt pvp as much.
Anyways, it's something Vector players have been asking for in one way or another even since Monolith. Thanks.
I love the temp. area so that it will disable the people that like to disrupt events. There are many events in the past that have been ruined because of pvp and idiots. This, I hope, will make Rarebit happier while doing events on Vector, which in turn, will make Vector a better place.
If.....IF....you decide to do permanant ones please keep them in out of the way areas and away from org districts like appolyon, camon, midian, mara, moriah etc...
That way it won't disrupt pvp as much.
Anyways, it's something Vector players have been asking for in one way or another even since Monolith. Thanks.
Cervacius wrote:
And I think I would restrict it to underground clubs anyway, since otherwise it's a bit tricky to manage their area of effect. So yeah, Messiah is probably a prime candidate for DT... Maybe the secret club...
In underground clubs, the effect shouldn't be visible because I'd use a larger one than the one used in that screenshot, so it would be underground beyond the club walls, where you couldn't see it.Oh Sweet Merciful Crap! That's awesome. Finally, people will stop causing random fights during LE meetings, etc.
The only thing is, now the entire Polyvinyl club on Vector will have that annoying blue haze around it for eternity. I'm not personally on that server, so I really don't care. However, I know I would hate it. You don't think you could dissable the graphic for the permanant ones and just leave the system message? Just for the permanant ones. Temps need some sort of graphic to be aware.
And I think I would restrict it to underground clubs anyway, since otherwise it's a bit tricky to manage their area of effect. So yeah, Messiah is probably a prime candidate for DT... Maybe the secret club...
Not sure if this was brought up already...but are there plans to have this sort of thing implemented on all servers?
For those who weren't paying attention:
"In the next update, Rarebit will probably place one on Polyvinyl dance floor in Vector, as a trial run. If it works out, he'll probably pick one or two clubs per district and place permanent Pacification Zones in them. "
None of this is permanent yet, especially Polyvinyl.
Well done Devs, but that guy who mentioned luggables was right. What's gonna happen there?
"In the next update, Rarebit will probably place one on Polyvinyl dance floor in Vector, as a trial run. If it works out, he'll probably pick one or two clubs per district and place permanent Pacification Zones in them. "
None of this is permanent yet, especially Polyvinyl.
Well done Devs, but that guy who mentioned luggables was right. What's gonna happen there?
The permanent ones would be in the same places on all servers.
I remember having a talk with Dracomet about luggables and Pacification Zones, and he's the guy writing the code for these things, so I think he has it handled, or will by the time they come out.
I remember having a talk with Dracomet about luggables and Pacification Zones, and he's the guy writing the code for these things, so I think he has it handled, or will by the time they come out.
Secret Club!?!?!?!?!?!?
Surely you jest....
I think you're referring to Club Waffle
Surely you jest....
I think you're referring to Club Waffle
An awesome update.
As a RPer, I hope we will have the zones on Recursion. It will help us a lot for RP event, organizational meeting and hanging out (They are often ruined by flagged PvPers).
As a RPer, I hope we will have the zones on Recursion. It will help us a lot for RP event, organizational meeting and hanging out (They are often ruined by flagged PvPers).
Nice news, indeed. But I think, this ability should be mine. Together with some doves around me... 
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lol loving it, and only having a few clubs non-pvp is better then all
Bayamo wrote:
I agree. Maybe paralaxis? . A safe zone that close to mara c would definately start some new flaming. The idea is good, having safer places for rp and live events.
Org controlled clubs would be good... but just a
de-pvp-zone on Vector with nothing else behind it sort of defies the
entire purpose of Vector. If people can go run into a "safe zone"
whenever they're being chased - especially at Mara, of all places,
just... wow. /face and /follow are already getting nerfed... as if it
wasn't easy enough to escape from pvp?
I do recognize that this will be good for events and parties and such, but other aspects of
the server lead me to question if this is a good idea or not,
especially given the LOCATION of such a zone.
I agree. Maybe paralaxis? . A safe zone that close to mara c would definately start some new flaming. The idea is good, having safer places for rp and live events.
bonobi wrote:
Secret Club!?!?!?!?!?!?what he said!
Surely you jest....
I think you're referring to Club Waffle
This is a very promising idea. Thanks devs!!
Ikkaku wrote:
This is wrong.
That system may be useful in some cases, but permanent installation is wrong.
Suggesting that we are incapable of peaceful multi-org gatherings is insulting, accepting that assessment as truth is far worse.
Despite popular belief, Vectorites are capable of restraint. we do not need permanent nullification fields in our world.
/disagree (x2)
That may be true but on the same token what exactly is wrong with having a single club in each area declared and enforced as a nutrial zone? Sure people may use it as a safe point when being pursued by rival orgs but if the clubs selected when its permantly implimented are out of the way areas then the chances are that are rather low.
If the tests show that its abused, im sure then Rarebit will reserve this ability for multi org meeting events and the such to keep party crashers at bay.
Ikkaku wrote:
I'm sorry, you must be from a parallel universe!
I was on a hostile server in one form or another for over a year. Suggesting that Vector is incapable of peaceful multi-org gatherings is absolutely spot on.
Sure some of the biggest *unpleasant person* have left/been banned since I went away, but there's always one joker who leaps in and starts a fight.
And it's common knowledge that the PvP server of any game always attracts the most immature idiots with a huge lack of restraint, Vector is no oddity to that - permanent fields have always been needed there, and will be a welcome addition.
This is wrong.
That system may be useful in some cases, but permanent installation is wrong.
Suggesting that we are incapable of peaceful multi-org gatherings is insulting, accepting that assessment as truth is far worse.
Despite popular belief, Vectorites are capable of restraint. we do not need permanent nullification fields in our world.
/disagree (x2)
I'm sorry, you must be from a parallel universe!
I was on a hostile server in one form or another for over a year. Suggesting that Vector is incapable of peaceful multi-org gatherings is absolutely spot on.
Sure some of the biggest *unpleasant person* have left/been banned since I went away, but there's always one joker who leaps in and starts a fight.
And it's common knowledge that the PvP server of any game always attracts the most immature idiots with a huge lack of restraint, Vector is no oddity to that - permanent fields have always been needed there, and will be a welcome addition.
Thank you for your responses, both of you make valid points and we loved the "spot on" comment 
Yes it is true, there are those immature players that must be dealt with in some fashion.
This idea seems to be favored by all, so perhaps we should wait for the test period and make our decisions then.
We've just returned from the "secret club" it is very impressive and would make an excellent choice. Please consider using it.
No we are not from a parallel universe, maybe our unique perspective stems from us not associating or interacting with such immature and disruptive players. We generally have a good time on Vector and are not abused by anyone. We have attended several gatherings at which we were the only ones from our org and are almost always treated with respect. Besides, we have seen methods of disruption that are FAR worse than just PvP.
It really comes down to maturity and respect for other players, if we as whole have to be neutered in order to act civilized then so be it.
/bowhead (x2)
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Yes it is true, there are those immature players that must be dealt with in some fashion.
This idea seems to be favored by all, so perhaps we should wait for the test period and make our decisions then.
We've just returned from the "secret club" it is very impressive and would make an excellent choice. Please consider using it.
No we are not from a parallel universe, maybe our unique perspective stems from us not associating or interacting with such immature and disruptive players. We generally have a good time on Vector and are not abused by anyone. We have attended several gatherings at which we were the only ones from our org and are almost always treated with respect. Besides, we have seen methods of disruption that are FAR worse than just PvP.
It really comes down to maturity and respect for other players, if we as whole have to be neutered in order to act civilized then so be it.
/bowhead (x2)
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awesome!!! this will be great for RP...
Nice pic from the Likwid Hyuzu party Twins. TBM did a great job on the radio was a fun time.
I agree that Polyvinyl for the sake of Mara PvP should be placed else where, Sphinx is a nice choice or even Avalon in Midian Park.
Question is since the area will "de-flag" us, could we still flag by typing /pvp or just attack a hostile player outside the zone? Or is our combat state turned off while inside the zone?
Also will we be able to duel other hostile players without having to worry about CQs and DE inside of the zones? Say if one were placed in a fight club, we could have tournaments or such inside to avoid interferance and DE wait periods that sometimes hold up tournaments.
I agree that Polyvinyl for the sake of Mara PvP should be placed else where, Sphinx is a nice choice or even Avalon in Midian Park.
Question is since the area will "de-flag" us, could we still flag by typing /pvp or just attack a hostile player outside the zone? Or is our combat state turned off while inside the zone?
Also will we be able to duel other hostile players without having to worry about CQs and DE inside of the zones? Say if one were placed in a fight club, we could have tournaments or such inside to avoid interferance and DE wait periods that sometimes hold up tournaments.
Yeah i too think its stupid to have non-PvP zones, Vector is meant to be hostile, u want to stay safe go to youre org area, Vector -Not so hostile.
Just another system of control.
A good system!
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A good system!
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Darn I was hoping it would be implemented with those crazy guards to kill people...
But I approve of this... much more "civilized"
But I approve of this... much more "civilized"
Rarebit wrote:
We don't speak of this. =P
... Maybe the secret club...
We don't speak of this. =P