On this day we pause to remember the recorded words of a man who stood up for us all, who worked to free us all.
I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you How this is going to end. I came here to tell you How it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone And then I'm going to show these people What you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them A world without you, A world without rules and controls, Without borders or boundaries-- A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there Is a choice I leave to you.
Neo, we have chosen. They will see what you began--the world you promised them.
Seriously.. I don't get it. At one point I thought 'Should I really be killing these?' but then I thought; they're unresponsive, weak, hostile, badly tagged and seemingly pointless - they can't be serious. Pyromancy, one of my crew, is level sixteen and had no problem in interlock with one of them. It just doesn't make sense.
Oh and keep an eye on your spelling guys, there's some nasty typo's creeping in.
I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you How this is going to end. I came here to tell you How it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone And then I'm going to show these people What you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them A world without you, A world without rules and controls, Without borders or boundaries-- A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there Is a choice I leave to you.
Mind you, this is fromt he end of the first movie. A lot has transpired from then. Don't base your actions on what Neo said and felt from when he first realized he was the one, he was just going off what Morpheus said to him the entire movie. Neo then figured out what his purpose was later.
Also ain't it funny how they are hanging around Telephone booths like the British Chavs do? Just waiting to see a corner shop been ravaged by them and if you are there long enough, one might even ask you for a bottle of white lightning.
Zion is not the only city where our brothren lay dormant and in need of protecting.
But SkyScream I ask you, should one follow a prophet over the savior?
Are the words of a prophet of greater importance then the words of the one that let us live?
Are the ideals, teachings, and goals of "The One" insignificant to those of a messenger?
Morpheus has played his part and it is time to continue the work of Neo.
Morpheus has not played his part yet, what make you the "God" to decide that Gami? We could say the same thing about Neo?(no offence). It's a matter of what you belive in....not what you think is the right conclussion Gami.
(How many times am I going to say this... Morpheus is not a Prophet. Morpheus was the Mentor. A Prophet is someone who is blind and is tasked to bring a message from God/the Gods to the people. If anyone, Neo was the Prophet.)
Asa wrote:
Neo did this.......Neo did that.................Neo said this.........Neo said that.
Neo's dead and thats how it's gonna say. When are people gonna think for themselves?
There was once a man who also died.
The story of his life and his death changed the world. Whether what was preached after the fact was true or not... Who knows? The point is that the idea of this "One Man" caused change.
You can think for yourself and still have beliefs. Faith doesn't have to be a religious thing. The will to survive and the will to change.
(How many times am I going to say this... Morpheus is not a Prophet. Morpheus was the Mentor. A Prophet is someone who is blind and is tasked to bring a message from God/the Gods to the people. If anyone, Neo was the Prophet.)
Wrong. The very definition of the word agrees with the second highlighted portion, but also includes others:
proph‧et /ˈprɒfɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[prof-it] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -noun 1.a person who speaks for God or a deity, or by divine inspiration. 2.(in the Old Testament) a.a person chosen to speak for God and to guide the people of Israel: Moses was the greatest of Old Testament prophets. b.(often initial capital letter) one of the Major or Minor Prophets. c.one of a band of ecstatic visionaries claiming divine inspiration and, according to popular belief, possessing magical powers. d.a person who practices divination. 3.one of a class of persons in the early church, next in order after the apostles, recognized as inspired to utter special revelations and predictions. 1 Cor. 12:28. 4.the Prophet, Muhammad, the founder of Islam. 5.a person regarded as, or claiming to be, an inspired teacher or leader. 6.a person who foretells or predicts what is to come: a weather prophet; prophets of doom. 7.a spokesperson of some doctrine, cause, or movement.
Zion is not the only city where our brothren lay dormant and in need of protecting.
But SkyScream I ask you, should one follow a prophet over the savior?
Are the words of a prophet of greater importance then the words of the one that let us live?
Are the ideals, teachings, and goals of "The One" insignificant to those of a messenger?
Morpheus has played his part and it is time to continue the work of Neo.
Morpheus has not played his part yet, what make you the "God" to decide that Gami? We could say the same thing about Neo?(no offence). It's a matter of what you belive in....not what you think is the right conclussion Gami.
Morpheus hasn't played his part? Tell me what was it that the Oracle told him his purpose was? To find "The One" right? Last I checked he had done this. Morpheus has done his job. He found, trained, taught and gave us Neo. Why do people still cling to a man that has done all he was meant to do when the person he did all this for work has yet to be completed.
And to every that seems to think we are missing the point i would encorage you to rather then just insult to actully show us what it is we are missing. Untill someone does forgive me if I just think your blowing hot air.
How typical to cherry pick those aspects of your religion to justify your actions ignoring the countless facts that later would deny it, the words spoken by Neo were from very early in his awakened life before he gained any real knowledge or wisdom of the real situation....
The level of arrogance, conciet and blinkered ignorance demonstrated by this 'Kid' are nothing short of obscene. Forget the Unlimits, forget the Cypherites - EPN are the biggest threat to the matrix and indeed humanity - a group without thought for consequence, a group ignorant of the wishes of others, a group more than happy to insult the memory of the very person they idolise....... the spoiled child of humanity encapsulating all its worse aspects, the very strain that attempted to destroy nature itself desperately trying to exist even though evolution has left them standing, all right thinking people should give evolution a helping hand to eliminate this throwback tribe once and for all!
Zion is not the only city where our brothren lay dormant and in need of protecting.
But SkyScream I ask you, should one follow a prophet over the savior?
Are the words of a prophet of greater importance then the words of the one that let us live?
Are the ideals, teachings, and goals of "The One" insignificant to those of a messenger?
Morpheus has played his part and it is time to continue the work of Neo.
Morpheus has not played his part yet, what make you the "God" to decide that Gami? We could say the same thing about Neo?(no offence). It's a matter of what you belive in....not what you think is the right conclussion Gami.
Morpheus hasn't played his part? Tell me what was it that the Oracle told him his purpose was? To find "The One" right? Last I checked he had done this. Morpheus has done his job. He found, trained, taught and gave us Neo. Why do people still cling to a man that has done all he was meant to do when the person he did all this for work has yet to be completed.
And to every that seems to think we are missing the point i would encorage you to rather then just insult to actully show us what it is we are missing. Untill someone does forgive me if I just think your blowing hot air.
LOL Gami, I don't cling to Morpheus more then i do to Trinity or Neo...i guess we have to leave that to another discussion. I am sure his job was not done...like Neo's. And why is it, that only you should have the option to respond and not us. And I did not try to insult you, why would i do that for??
Indeed, leave it to a fanatical 18 year old to tell his followers to stand around guarding hardlines for a whole day not saying a single word. Yes, how many grades did you flunk Potter to think of this one?
Zion is not the only city where our brothren lay dormant and in need of protecting.
But SkyScream I ask you, should one follow a prophet over the savior?
Are the words of a prophet of greater importance then the words of the one that let us live?
Are the ideals, teachings, and goals of "The One" insignificant to those of a messenger?
Morpheus has played his part and it is time to continue the work of Neo.
Morpheus has not played his part yet, what make you the "God" to decide that Gami? We could say the same thing about Neo?(no offence). It's a matter of what you belive in....not what you think is the right conclussion Gami.
Morpheus hasn't played his part? Tell me what was it that the Oracle told him his purpose was? To find "The One" right? Last I checked he had done this. Morpheus has done his job. He found, trained, taught and gave us Neo. Why do people still cling to a man that has done all he was meant to do when the person he did all this for work has yet to be completed.
And to every that seems to think we are missing the point i would encorage you to rather then just insult to actully show us what it is we are missing. Untill someone does forgive me if I just think your blowing hot air.
GamiSB The Oracle didn't actually say how many times Morpheus would find The One.....makes you think doesn't it?
Zion is not the only city where our brothren lay dormant and in need of protecting.
But SkyScream I ask you, should one follow a prophet over the savior?
Are the words of a prophet of greater importance then the words of the one that let us live?
Are the ideals, teachings, and goals of "The One" insignificant to those of a messenger?
Morpheus has played his part and it is time to continue the work of Neo.
Morpheus has not played his part yet, what make you the "God" to decide that Gami? We could say the same thing about Neo?(no offence). It's a matter of what you belive in....not what you think is the right conclussion Gami.
Morpheus hasn't played his part? Tell me what was it that the Oracle told him his purpose was? To find "The One" right? Last I checked he had done this. Morpheus has done his job. He found, trained, taught and gave us Neo. Why do people still cling to a man that has done all he was meant to do when the person he did all this for work has yet to be completed.
And to every that seems to think we are missing the point i would encorage you to rather then just insult to actully show us what it is we are missing. Untill someone does forgive me if I just think your blowing hot air.
GamiSB The Oracle didn't actually say how many times Morpheus would find The One.....makes you think doesn't it?
I seem to remember the Oracle saying something about Morpheus having a new crusade or something a while ago.
The path of the one was a lie, Neo's true path was peace not to free ALL and destroy the matrix like they all were led to believe. Therefore the role Morph had was a lie too and the Oracle told Morph he found his own purpose, to get back Neo's remains. He has not finished this goal therefore his role is not yet over. Wow some people just don't know how to think outside the box do they?
The path of the one was a lie, Neo's true path was peace not to free ALL and destroy the matrix like they all were led to believe. Therefore the role Morph had was a lie too and the Oracle told Morph he found his own purpose, to get back Neo's remains. He has not finished this goal therefore his role is not yet over. Wow some people just don't know how to think outside the box do they?
Which furthers my disgust for the blind followers of the "Uno".
Mr Uno knew that the matrix is vital. From everything I have seen he understood the purpose of the Matrix. You do not simply turn something off that so many people believe in.
But with that said, it is time to destroy and rebuild. No, not destroy the matrix, but the Red Pill community as it currently stands. I feel this way because I do not see the growth within the current crop. This will be done not by gathering ARMS with RedPills but against them.
The level of arrogance, conciet and blinkered ignorance demonstrated by this 'Kid' are nothing short of obscene. Forget the Unlimits, forget the Cypherites - EPN are the biggest threat to the matrix and indeed humanity - a group without thought for consequence, a group ignorant of the wishes of others, a group more than happy to insult the memory of the very person they idolise....... the spoiled child of humanity encapsulating all its worse aspects, the very strain that attempted to destroy nature itself desperately trying to exist even though evolution has left them standing, all right thinking people should give evolution a helping hand to eliminate this throwback tribe once and for all!
Indeed, leave it to a fanatical 18 year old to tell his followers to stand around guarding hardlines for a whole day not saying a single word. Yes, how many grades did you flunk Potter to think of this one?
HAHA! Sucka just got served...
I bet he will chalk it up to lag... or solar flairs...
And to every that seems to think we are missing the point i would encorage you to rather then just insult to actully show us what it is we are missing. Untill someone does forgive me if I just think your blowing hot air.
Seether I ain't a follower, I follow no man. I work for one but only cause I get paid a large amount. I work for the Frenchman and always will unlike you who follows instead of leading.
Seether I ain't a follower, I follow no man. I work for one but only cause I get paid a large amount. I work for the Frenchman and always will unlike you who follows instead of leading.
qui je ? Je ne suis aucun sectateur
I think you post has been misdirected. Actually I agree with you about people and their way of thinking or not thinking.
So with that said, I do not work for the Frenchman. I work WITH him and sometimes against him (although I will remain a Merv) when it benefits me (in true Merovingian fashion).
I wish there was a sound byte or something played just after you read that, which plays Rage Against the Machine. It just doesn't seem to have the same effect without it...
And to the leading skills of the Kid, he learned to lead from his mentor, Neo. But wait, Neo wasn't a leader as well. Neo had the power to do what he wanted, but he never knew what to do with it, until he realized he had to give his life to save us all. He always leached to Morpheus or the Oracle, or Trinity, in some cases, to Rama-Kandra. I don't know where I am going with this, I guess I just wanted to say something...
I wish there was a sound byte or something played just after you read that, which plays Rage Against the Machine. It just doesn't seem to have the same effect without it...
And to the leading skills of the Kid, he learned to lead from his mentor, Neo. But wait, Neo wasn't a leader as well. Neo had the power to do what he wanted, but he never knew what to do with it, until he realized he had to give his life to save us all. He always leached to Morpheus or the Oracle, or Trinity, in some cases, to Rama-Kandra. I don't know where I am going with this, I guess I just wanted to say something...
You were going in the right direction, that's where.
Neo never lead, he only did what he was told, untill the time came where he had to make up his own *CENSORED* mind, which was sacrifice himself so EVERYTHING could live, which isn't just humans (You conceded bastads).
Point being, The Kid is just a kid, he never even so much as lead a soccor team let alone a small army. Following him is like following a herd of cattle off a cliff.
He may have never lead, but that does not mean he never taught does it? Neo isn't here to lead anyway thats why we use his words and actions to anwser the question "What would Neo do" You don't need to be a leader to start something and make a change. Only need an idea and a guide. Which Neo had and which we have.
He may have never lead, but that does not mean he never taught does it? Neo isn't here to lead anyway thats why we use his words and actions to anwser the question "What would Neo do" You don't need to be a leader to start something and make a change. Only need an idea and a guide. Which Neo had and which we have.
Correct, you do have words and actions to guide you on your path. But I think you took a wrong turn somewhere, where as these NPC's are correct in their non-aggressive stance. Neo wanted to save the human race, he realized the only way to do that, was not by destroying the machines, or by corrupting parts of the matrix. He had to give himself up to save everyone, machines and humans alike. And now EPN sets off code bombs and forcefully awakens bluepills, in turn they most likely die. How is that considered saving or even freeing? 'A forceful action taken on another person in order for a personal gain.' I didn't know the dictionary had that as the definition of "free." What it comes down to, the organization EPN has some translation problems. Neo wanted Peace, EPN wants War... The passive aggressive stance by these NPC's were possibly the first thing done correctly by EPN, honoring their savior, without including death to others.
He may have never lead, but that does not mean he never taught does it? Neo isn't here to lead anyway thats why we use his words and actions to anwser the question "What would Neo do" You don't need to be a leader to start something and make a change. Only need an idea and a guide. Which Neo had and which we have.
Correct, you do have words and actions to guide you on your path. But I think you took a wrong turn somewhere, where as these NPC's are correct in their non-aggressive stance. Neo wanted to save the human race, he realized the only way to do that, was not by destroying the machines, or by corrupting parts of the matrix. He had to give himself up to save everyone, machines and humans alike. And now EPN sets off code bombs and forcefully awakens bluepills, in turn they most likely die. How is that considered saving or even freeing? 'A forceful action taken on another person in order for a personal gain.' I didn't know the dictionary had that as the definition of "free." What it comes down to, the organization EPN has some translation problems. Neo wanted Peace, EPN wants War... The passive aggressive stance by these NPC's were possibly the first thing done correctly by EPN, honoring their savior, without including death to others.
Ah I see. Well as Neo said there is some truth in your fiction and some fiction in your truth. Not to disrespect your words but there a few things that you may be confused on or do not know. As you said EPN should do just as those NPCs did and they do. However thanks to people confusing us with a group wanting what Morpheus wanted alot of things have happend to take away from this image. As you said code bombs. Michael, Shimada, and all lLOs of sound mind know that Neo would not approve of the use of code bombs. Many times Michael has said this, here and here being the best to look at. Neo wanted peace and he gave us peace but he also wanted everyone to be given the right to choose to live in the matrix or the real. EPN only wishes to offer these people that choice.
He may have never lead, but that does not mean he never taught does it? Neo isn't here to lead anyway thats why we use his words and actions to anwser the question "What would Neo do" You don't need to be a leader to start something and make a change. Only need an idea and a guide. Which Neo had and which we have.
Correct, you do have words and actions to guide you on your path. But I think you took a wrong turn somewhere, where as these NPC's are correct in their non-aggressive stance. Neo wanted to save the human race, he realized the only way to do that, was not by destroying the machines, or by corrupting parts of the matrix. He had to give himself up to save everyone, machines and humans alike. And now EPN sets off code bombsand forcefully awakens bluepills, in turn they most likely die. How is that considered saving or even freeing? 'A forceful action taken on another person in order for a personal gain.' I didn't know the dictionary had that as the definition of "free." What it comes down to, the organization EPN has some translation problems. Neo wanted Peace, EPN wants War... The passive aggressive stance by these NPC's were possibly the first thing done correctly by EPN, honoring their savior, without including death to others.
Ah I see. Well as Neo said there is some truth in your fiction and some fiction in your truth. Not to disrespect your words but there a few things that you may be confused on or do not know. As you said EPN should do just as those NPCs did and they do. However thanks to people confusing us with a group wanting what Morpheus wanted alot of things have happend to take away from this image. As you said code bombs. Michael, Shimada, and all lLOs of sound mindknow that Neo would not approve of the use of code bombs. Many times Michael has said this, here and here being the best to look at. Neo wanted peace and he gave us peace but he also wanted everyone to be given the right to choose to live in the matrix or the real. EPN only wishes to offer these people that choice.
I apologize for stereotyping all EPN to do this. There are bad eggs in all division of people, as u stated, of sound mind. But sterotypes are made because of actions taken, and I wish they wouldn't of had to be made. Another stereotype that has formed is the one of redpills allying with machines, meaning me. I beleive the original creation of EPN, with some minor edits, wants the same thing as the machines, basically, we both want peace and longevity. The agents of the system only act forcefully when redpills act outside the safe-system softwares. As the architect's "job" in the matrix, is to balance the equation, a new variable is added, so he derives something to remove the variable. If EPN thinks of machines being the "illness" of the humans, then you are not living the way Neo would want. Neo gave his life so the machines could keep the matrix running, so the human race could live on. Neo realized the matrix was neccessary, and until everyone realizes that, no strides toward anything good will be done.
I apologize for stereotyping all EPN to do this. There are bad eggs in all division of people, as u stated, of sound mind. But sterotypes are made because of actions taken, and I wish they wouldn't of had to be made. Another stereotype that has formed is the one of redpills allying with machines, meaning me. I beleive the original creation of EPN, with some minor edits, wants the same thing as the machines, basically, we both want peace and longevity. The agents of the system only act forcefully when redpills act outside the safe-system softwares. As the architect's "job" in the matrix, is to balance the equation, a new variable is added, so he derives something to remove the variable. If EPN thinks of machines being the "illness" of the humans, then you are not living the way Neo would want. Neo gave his life so the the human race could live on. Neo realized the matrix was neccessary, and until everyone realizes that, no strides toward anything good will be done.
We are used to it and most of us do wish that those incidents had never happend. The large majorities on both Syntax and Vector as well as Opus Neo on Recursion are strongly against those that even play with the idea ofcode bombs and wont stand for it but as you said *poop* happens and well you just have to explain to people the truth behind it and go on with life. You also may find that most of EPN holds no hostility towards the machines other then those that seek out continuly play the "you set of code bombs" card. My own faction has been told that unless they get in your way you are not to attack them and i think most do this on there own without need of being told. Just as Neo did most of EPN does recognize that the Matrix is needed. Michael himself has told me that we dont want to destory the matrix if only for the soul protection of those not ready and not wanting to be freed from it as well as the dieing off of an intire race if it ever did fail. The Blue pill is still a choice even if it isn't the one we like to see being swallowed and we all know that deep down even if we do reach out to all 6 billion humans only less then 10% would take the red pill.
(How many times am I going to say this... Morpheus is not a Prophet. Morpheus was the Mentor. A Prophet is someone who is blind and is tasked to bring a message from God/the Gods to the people. If anyone, Neo was the Prophet.)
Wrong. The very definition of the word agrees with the second highlighted portion, but also includes others:
proph‧et /ˈprɒfɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[prof-it] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation -noun 1.a person who speaks for God or a deity, or by divine inspiration. 2.(in the Old Testament) a.a person chosen to speak for God and to guide the people of Israel: Moses was the greatest of Old Testament prophets. b.(often initial capital letter) one of the Major or Minor Prophets. c.one of a band of ecstatic visionaries claiming divine inspiration and, according to popular belief, possessing magical powers. d.a person who practices divination. 3.one of a class of persons in the early church, next in order after the apostles, recognized as inspired to utter special revelations and predictions. 1 Cor. 12:28. 4.the Prophet, Muhammad, the founder of Islam. 5.a person regarded as, or claiming to be, an inspired teacher or leader. 6.a person who foretells or predicts what is to come: a weather prophet; prophets of doom. 7.a spokesperson of some doctrine, cause, or movement.
5 and 7 describe Morpheus, I would say.
(Not anymore... And the rest before 5 and 7 support Neo as a Prophet--I fact, 7 can support Neo for he was the spokesperson for Peace. He was the diplomat for the human race. Or maybe the voice of reason so that everyone makes it out alive. I seriously disapprove of seeing Neo as a Messiah or Christ-figure... But he could be anything. He could be everything. The cross of light at the end of the movie will tend to scream 'crucifix' but I see it as a literal crossing. A hybrid. We have Neo as the hybrid of many beliefs. The more we argue over it then the less chance we have for peace and unity... Much like what happens in today's world.
"My belief is greater than your belief. My God is bigger than your God."
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