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Is this computer good enough to run MxO on all high settings with AA? and every option turned up maximum?
Is this computer good enough to run MxO on all high settings with AA? and every option turned up maximum?
Is this computer enough to run this game on all high settings?
15 posts · 2006-09-03 17:01:50 to 2006-09-07 19:47:08
not with an integrated video card it isn't...
then wat graphic card should i get? for PCI-E?
A full list of our supported cards can be found here. To run the game at max settings, I would suggest at least a nVidia Geforce 6800 / ATI Radeon X800.
TSRDavidK wrote:
In addition to David's suggestion, you'll want to remember how graphics card families are labeled.
When a new graphics card family is released, there are typically 3 kinds of cards. There are low-end (commodity) cards, mid-range (mainstream) cards, and high-end (enthusiast) cards all in the same family. The lower-end cards usually have the lowest numbers in that family; even though a x1300 has a higher number than an x800, it's lower-end hardware and will not perform as well in most tasks.
There are also caveats to this. For instance, new families of graphics cards may offer support for a feature that oloder generations do not. For instance, the x1xxx line of graphics cards by ATi include support for Shader Model 3.0, which is not included in their older lines. So, if you want to play a game using Shader Model 3.0, you'll need the newer card family to do so. It may run the game slowly, or with features turned way down, but the game will at least start up. That same game, on high-end previous gen hardware, may not even run.
Make you decision based on the games you play now. If you want to play MXO, you don't need Shader Model 3.0. You need a solid Shader Model 2.0 card that can crank polygons. I suggest getting a high-end card from the the most recent 2 generations from ATi or nVidia. That is, get an no less than an x1800 for the latest generation ATi cards, or an x800 from the previous generation. For nVidia, get no less than a GeForce 6800 (though some 6600's have comparable performance) or 7800.
This completely leaves out the different revisions of a single card (GS, GT, XTX, *CENSORED*, etc) that muddies the waters a bit. Follow the general outlines above, and then research the card you choose on sites like extremetech.com or tomshardware.com to see how they stack up against others in their own line or from the competitor's line of cards.
A full list of our supported cards can be found here. To run the game at max settings, I would suggest at least a nVidia Geforce 6800 / ATI Radeon X800.
In addition to David's suggestion, you'll want to remember how graphics card families are labeled.
When a new graphics card family is released, there are typically 3 kinds of cards. There are low-end (commodity) cards, mid-range (mainstream) cards, and high-end (enthusiast) cards all in the same family. The lower-end cards usually have the lowest numbers in that family; even though a x1300 has a higher number than an x800, it's lower-end hardware and will not perform as well in most tasks.
There are also caveats to this. For instance, new families of graphics cards may offer support for a feature that oloder generations do not. For instance, the x1xxx line of graphics cards by ATi include support for Shader Model 3.0, which is not included in their older lines. So, if you want to play a game using Shader Model 3.0, you'll need the newer card family to do so. It may run the game slowly, or with features turned way down, but the game will at least start up. That same game, on high-end previous gen hardware, may not even run.
Make you decision based on the games you play now. If you want to play MXO, you don't need Shader Model 3.0. You need a solid Shader Model 2.0 card that can crank polygons. I suggest getting a high-end card from the the most recent 2 generations from ATi or nVidia. That is, get an no less than an x1800 for the latest generation ATi cards, or an x800 from the previous generation. For nVidia, get no less than a GeForce 6800 (though some 6600's have comparable performance) or 7800.
This completely leaves out the different revisions of a single card (GS, GT, XTX, *CENSORED*, etc) that muddies the waters a bit. Follow the general outlines above, and then research the card you choose on sites like extremetech.com or tomshardware.com to see how they stack up against others in their own line or from the competitor's line of cards.
Thank you GeoThermal for the excellent discription of video card hierarchies (that I may steal in the future 
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).TSRDavidK wrote:
and more curiosity left me is that I was able with my 5700U to run it at the same settings
And much more curiosity left me is that I was able to run the game at full details 2 patches before
A full list of our supported cards can be found here. To run the game at max settings, I would suggest at least a nVidia Geforce 6800 / ATI Radeon X800.I have a 6800GS and I can run the game on half of the settings
and more curiosity left me is that I was able with my 5700U to run it at the same settings And much more curiosity left me is that I was able to run the game at full details 2 patches before
Zacharias doesn't count.
If I recall, you were getting decent frame rates, but poor ping, correct? So your video card should be fine.
If I recall, you were getting decent frame rates, but poor ping, correct? So your video card should be fine.
Yeah, today I was in downtown and I was able to turn everything up..... with a good framerate.
But after I had moved to Richland the framreate had gone down.
And Im not alone with a bad ping..... I had asked many others in my faction and they had sayed me they have pings at 250 and 300ms, most of them had lived in europe too.
It cant be right that I must everytime set my grafic details down when Im enter Richland. And it cant be that we europeans or any others outside us get higher pings then if you were in the us...... I mean does the american players pay less then the europeans? No! So, why we get these misserable pings for the same money?
But after I had moved to Richland the framreate had gone down.
And Im not alone with a bad ping..... I had asked many others in my faction and they had sayed me they have pings at 250 and 300ms, most of them had lived in europe too.
It cant be right that I must everytime set my grafic details down when Im enter Richland. And it cant be that we europeans or any others outside us get higher pings then if you were in the us...... I mean does the american players pay less then the europeans? No! So, why we get these misserable pings for the same money?
Hello Zacharias,
Distance from a server can indeed affect your ping. Unfortunately, that is simply a fact of life. Besides setting up a new server farm closer to where you live (which, by the way, is unlikely) there is nothing much we can do about it. We are providing you the same service as US customers, hence the same rate, and if anyone is to blame, it is your provider. But even high speed connections will receive lag when stretched over long distances.
Distance from a server can indeed affect your ping. Unfortunately, that is simply a fact of life. Besides setting up a new server farm closer to where you live (which, by the way, is unlikely) there is nothing much we can do about it. We are providing you the same service as US customers, hence the same rate, and if anyone is to blame, it is your provider. But even high speed connections will receive lag when stretched over long distances.
Hi XRontix,
That video card should perform very well with MXO.
That video card should perform very well with MXO.
@XRontix
If you dont live outside the usa
@DavidK
I know the problem with the distance..... but I cant understood why SOE cant setup a new server farm in europe, I think there are many europeans in the game.... I had looked at the german store for mxo and the main critism for this game is the high ping and the low framerate and the big computer system you need to compansate it.
"and if anyone is to blame, it is your provider. But even high speed connections will receive lag when stretched over long distances."
Erm, do you mean when Im playing it with ISDN I will get a better ping? I had heared that the ping with isdn is a bit better, but I dont think that I will get a better ping if I use here a ISDN connection..... and I dont believe that everyone that uses an slow internet connection will have a better ping, I mean in america you have broadband too and I think that many players use a broadband connection and they will have a good ping.
I had played a WoW 10day trial..... a ping of 130ms was my highest and standart was arround 80ms, it was realy smooth to play.
Why is it unlikly to put up a new server farm in europe?
And I have another question, would fastpath help to get a better ping n the mxo servers?
If you dont live outside the usa
@DavidK
I know the problem with the distance..... but I cant understood why SOE cant setup a new server farm in europe, I think there are many europeans in the game.... I had looked at the german store for mxo and the main critism for this game is the high ping and the low framerate and the big computer system you need to compansate it.
"and if anyone is to blame, it is your provider. But even high speed connections will receive lag when stretched over long distances."
Erm, do you mean when Im playing it with ISDN I will get a better ping? I had heared that the ping with isdn is a bit better, but I dont think that I will get a better ping if I use here a ISDN connection..... and I dont believe that everyone that uses an slow internet connection will have a better ping, I mean in america you have broadband too and I think that many players use a broadband connection and they will have a good ping.
I had played a WoW 10day trial..... a ping of 130ms was my highest and standart was arround 80ms, it was realy smooth to play.
Why is it unlikly to put up a new server farm in europe?
And I have another question, would fastpath help to get a better ping n the mxo servers?
I would say that setting up a new server farm for European customers would be unrealistic due to the cost of maintaining new servers. It is always a possibility, and if you would like to submit feedback about it, I would suggest you do so. To submit feedback, go to "www.station.com/email", and select "Submit Feedback" as your category.
If you want to see if ISDN would help your connection speed, you could contact your provider and have them try doing a tracert to the server you play on. If there are any large jumps, like the ones in your traces, then I would assume it would not help too much, but otherwise it might.
By fastpath, are you talking about a fastpath branded router / switch? If so, I doubt it would, seeing that the delay is not coming from a router.
If you want to see if ISDN would help your connection speed, you could contact your provider and have them try doing a tracert to the server you play on. If there are any large jumps, like the ones in your traces, then I would assume it would not help too much, but otherwise it might.
By fastpath, are you talking about a fastpath branded router / switch? If so, I doubt it would, seeing that the delay is not coming from a router.
I dont know how much it would cost to set up servers..... but I had set up a server at Dell.
2x Intel Xeon 2.66GHz, with 16GB Ram and 76GB Harddrives with 15.000 RPM.... 8500$
I dont know how many SOE does needs for one "Server" (Vector). And I dont know how much Traffic one server produces in a month..... but I had calculatet that soe recives every month 450.000$.... there is another thread with the question where all the money goes to.....
But I have another example.... there is a game called Anarchy Online, they have only 10.000 Members, MxO has 30.000 Members (Source). But Anarchy Online has a an American Server, an European Server and an German Server.... and now, you can play it for free, without the extansions, but you can play it to lvl200 for nothing and on an european server and they have only 1/3 of players as mxo does has....
The main question about the server problem is realy "What do soe with the money from the mxo costumers?"
The other thing..... with ISDN..... I have an 4MBit connection... I had choose this one to have fast downloads and not like to the old ISDN times where I had got files only with 8 or 16Kbit/s down
But I can ask my provider for the extrem fast jump from Frankfort to the mxo servers..... I will inform you....
Fastpath..... I had asked that again... I think so.... You have 2 methods with an internet connection, Fastpath and Interleaving.
Interleaving grants you a good download, it prooves all packages that goes from the server to your computer, so it produce a bit more lag.
Fastpath dont have this checkup for the downloaded files, so will have a faster ping in games but with bigger files it could happen that there will be an error in the download..... and the other bad thing is, it costs extra money to switch from interleaving to fastpath and back.
I am wondering my self that this is realy known here in germany, every hardcore gamer know what fastpath and interleaving is..... there is an article at wikipedia.de but there is no article at wikipedia.com
But I think you do know now what Interleaving is
I am realy anxois of your answers
2x Intel Xeon 2.66GHz, with 16GB Ram and 76GB Harddrives with 15.000 RPM.... 8500$
I dont know how many SOE does needs for one "Server" (Vector). And I dont know how much Traffic one server produces in a month..... but I had calculatet that soe recives every month 450.000$.... there is another thread with the question where all the money goes to.....
But I have another example.... there is a game called Anarchy Online, they have only 10.000 Members, MxO has 30.000 Members (Source). But Anarchy Online has a an American Server, an European Server and an German Server.... and now, you can play it for free, without the extansions, but you can play it to lvl200 for nothing and on an european server and they have only 1/3 of players as mxo does has....
The main question about the server problem is realy "What do soe with the money from the mxo costumers?"
The other thing..... with ISDN..... I have an 4MBit connection... I had choose this one to have fast downloads and not like to the old ISDN times where I had got files only with 8 or 16Kbit/s down
But I can ask my provider for the extrem fast jump from Frankfort to the mxo servers..... I will inform you....
Fastpath..... I had asked that again... I think so.... You have 2 methods with an internet connection, Fastpath and Interleaving.
Interleaving grants you a good download, it prooves all packages that goes from the server to your computer, so it produce a bit more lag.
Fastpath dont have this checkup for the downloaded files, so will have a faster ping in games but with bigger files it could happen that there will be an error in the download..... and the other bad thing is, it costs extra money to switch from interleaving to fastpath and back.
I am wondering my self that this is realy known here in germany, every hardcore gamer know what fastpath and interleaving is..... there is an article at wikipedia.de but there is no article at wikipedia.com
But I think you do know now what Interleaving is
I am realy anxois of your answers