Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"

220 posts · 2006-06-03 10:36:33 to 2009-06-07 03:55:29

#36300219396 04/20/2007 12:30:16 Re: Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Pyraci wrote:
Papergh0st wrote:
Pyraci wrote:

...you do keep backups of your images, right?
Dude, it wasn't even about that. It was about all the settings and examples they posted as they learned....
....and if they keep backups of images and text, then they haven't lost anything and can easily repost either here or somewhere else if needed. i get what its "about", its the fact that she was talking about it like the whole lot had gone up in smoke, in the panicked sort of tone that people take with things of a digital nature where no backups exist, that I was curious about.
Heh, there was no need for all that though, is what I'm saying. I think it's fairly safe to say that they still have all that stuff. Ann and Arzu can correct me if I'm wrong about that. I think it's also safe to say that most of us here would be a bit PO'ed if something we were doing for the community all this time was removed, whether it was a matter of reposting it or not. I keep a detailed archive of my work, but I'd still be saying '*CENSORED*' if all of my posts in my art threads where just gone one day too.
oh i would too, no doubt about it - however i approach everything from an internet security POV and so everything begins and ends with backups, regardless of situation SMILEY

hopefully they'll rez the lost posts though, its rather odd to suddenly hose them after all this time.
#36300219397 04/20/2007 12:32:06 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Apparently it would have just taken way to much time to have actually gone through her post tracker and edited out her signature instead of removing her posts and the information they contained.

Stupid moderation choices FTL.
#36300219400 04/20/2007 12:36:06 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
NightTrace wrote:
Apparently it would have just taken way to much time to have actually gone through her post tracker and edited out her signature instead of removing her posts and the information they contained.

Stupid moderation choices FTL.
weird, so the problem was the sigs and not the posts? i dont recall ever seeing any dodgy sigs from her...
#36300219403 04/20/2007 12:39:58 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
I'm working on getting a new computer so i am also interested in the files. So could the Bazman sisters or anyone else please send them to me.

Thank you.
#36300219404 04/20/2007 12:41:54 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Papergh0st wrote:
NightTrace wrote:
Apparently it would have just taken way to much time to have actually gone through her post tracker and edited out her signature instead of removing her posts and the information they contained.

Stupid moderation choices FTL.
weird, so the problem was the sigs and not the posts? i dont recall ever seeing any dodgy sigs from her...
Her sigs and faction were called RAF. This could reference many things from "Royal Air Force" to "Red Army Faction".

The Red Army Faction, was a West German Dissident/Terrorist group in the 80's. I would assume somebody sent in reports on Arzu saying how she supported terrorisim and tada, stupid moderation choices FTL.
#36300219457 04/20/2007 13:39:48 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"

I am still confused as to why they removed her signatures.  There was nothing provocative about them.  Which one did they remove?

Photobucket
#36300219473 04/20/2007 14:01:57 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
So folks, yeah I understand that many of you have questions as to the "how's" and "why's". I'll be discussing this with the people involved with the situation, specifically ann and arzu to clear up what is going on and why.

Thank you for understanding.
#36300311467 08/26/2007 21:35:25 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Yep. I'd love to have these options settings if possible. My system has 2 gigs of ram, duo core processor, and two nvidia 7650's in SLI. Thanks for your time.
#36300311543 08/27/2007 01:02:37 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
... Whatever happened to most of the Bazmans' posts...?
EDIT: Arzu says that they're going to release a new website soon, which will have the useropts files posted in the MxO section for anyone who wants them. That's awesome, and I am definitely looking forward to it.
- Void
#36300312559 08/28/2007 11:05:36 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Sister Z's I have returned from hiding with in the code of the matrix. If you need help with this let me know i have resources outside of the Matrix that you can surely benefit from.
#36300357065 11/21/2007 22:29:46 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
I've been away from the Matrix for a long time and now that I'm back I was interested in putting these files back on my pc, only to discover what has happened while I was gone. If anyone still has the lastest updated version please send them to me. I would love to continue taking wonderful shots with these amazing cfg files! Thanks.
#36300357119 11/22/2007 02:27:45 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Sabus wrote:
I've been away from the Matrix for a long time and now that I'm back I was interested in putting these files back on my pc, only to discover what has happened while I was gone. If anyone still has the lastest updated version please send them to me. I would love to continue taking wonderful shots with these amazing cfg files! Thanks.


I've been trying to get Ann's latest files too.  I havent got a reply yet, but i hope i do soon.  The Bazman's sure made some great stuff!

SMILEY

#36300357216 11/22/2007 05:40:44 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"

I'm a recent returner and have been reading lots of praise about the useropts.cfg files and would love to try them out on my system if at all possible.

 Hope to hear from you soon,

Regards,  Hiro

#36300357402 11/22/2007 17:22:08 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
UniToxic says:

Hmm, not sure if this will do, but at the moment with so many people asking, and nothing being sent out it seems, I feel sharing these will probably help some, hopefully im not breaking any rules, if I am, then I will remove them.

Anyway they sent me 4versions of the useropts over the last year, suited for different specced computers.
400 being better settings but alot lower performance
125 being lower settings (still above normal) and not much lower performance

www.digitalinsomnia.co.uk/hosting/f...mxo-cfg_125.zip
www.digitalinsomnia.co.uk/hosting/f...mxo-cfg_150.zip
www.digitalinsomnia.co.uk/hosting/f...mxo-cfg_200.zip
www.digitalinsomnia.co.uk/hosting/f...mxo-cfg_400.zip

Again hope this helps.




Posted on behalf of UniToxic
#36300357596 11/23/2007 05:50:23 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Hl3w88 wrote:
UniToxic says:

Hmm, not sure if this will do, but at the moment with so many people asking, and nothing being sent out it seems, I feel sharing these will probably help some, hopefully im not breaking any rules, if I am, then I will remove them.

www.digitalinsomnia.co.uk/hosting/f...mxo-cfg_125.zip
www.digitalinsomnia.co.uk/hosting/f...mxo-cfg_150.zip
www.digitalinsomnia.co.uk/hosting/f...mxo-cfg_200.zip
www.digitalinsomnia.co.uk/hosting/f...mxo-cfg_400.zip
Those include options.cfg which I think are not meant to be shared. I've PMed 100, 200 and 400 versions to the people who were asking so if anyone needs them just post here and I'll PM a link since I don't think options.cfg are allowed to be shared publicly.
#36300357699 11/23/2007 12:06:13 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
options.cfg is modified by your own client every time you make a change ingame using Advanced Video options... OH NOES to sharing it!
#36300358222 11/24/2007 21:22:59 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Ann just did that so that she wouldn't get in trouble with SOE.
I don't really see the harm in sharing the files.
They can get the post removed if they have q problem with it.
- Void
#36300358238 11/24/2007 22:22:34 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
So I'm a little confused. I have the files now, but which one do I use. I have a really really really SMILEY good computer, so do I use the 400 or the 100... Thanks!
#36300358278 11/25/2007 02:20:20 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
The best settings are the 4.00 ones.
- Void
#36300358964 11/26/2007 12:47:20 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"

I have been using the 400 files and they are great, but my PC can handle alot more than that.  I've been mod'n the 400 files a lil here and there, but still think theres more that can be done.  I guess whenever Ann uploads her newest files to the Bazman's newest site, http://bazmandev.com , then we'll find out.

SMILEY 

#36300358969 11/26/2007 12:52:12 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
ANGEIiS wrote:

I have been using the 400 files and they are great, but my PC can handle alot more than that.

Really? o.O My comp goes at like 2FPS when I'm running 400.
#36300358977 11/26/2007 13:04:41 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Really?  How do u have your graffic card set up?
#36300358992 11/26/2007 13:21:00 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
ANGEIiS wrote:
Really?  How do u have your graffic card set up?
...in the computer?
#36300359004 11/26/2007 13:27:10 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"

I mean your graffics/video card that is in your computer... How do u have it set? like the options...  Do you have it maxed out, are you overclocking it?  etc...

SMILEY

#36300363775 12/02/2007 23:12:06 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
odj wrote:
ANGEIiS wrote:
Really?  How do u have your graffic card set up?
...in the computer?


I nearly fell over laughing at that..
#36300363842 12/03/2007 02:20:03 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Wolfess wrote:
odj wrote:
ANGEIiS wrote:
Really?  How do u have your graffic card set up?
...in the computer?


I nearly fell over laughing at that..
ROFL
#36300384534 01/10/2008 21:08:13 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
odj wrote:
ANGEIiS wrote:

I have been using the 400 files and they are great, but my PC can handle alot more than that.

Really? o.O My comp goes at like 2FPS when I'm running 400.
Same here. with my 3 gigs of RAM, and 8800gt 512 mb, I still get like 4 fps when running the 4.00  O_O is there a certain trick to changing your settings in the video card control panel that helps this?


#36300386432 01/14/2008 10:28:47 Re: Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
arzubazman wrote:

MXO - Restore the thread

Done. And only 9 months overdue.
I hereby proclaim the Bazman Post Restoration Project complete. Enjoy. SMILEY" />

Let's all hope I didn't break the forums.
#36300386434 01/14/2008 10:32:45 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
All Hail Inkblot... unless he's broken the forums.... SMILEY
#36300386441 01/14/2008 10:56:46 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Thank you InkBlot. I hope the Bazman's sisters sees this that it's back to its Greatness and them coming back as well.
#36300386486 01/14/2008 12:32:32 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
You're welcome. Please keep this thread on topic from now on though. SMILEY
#36300386489 01/14/2008 12:36:10 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Mmmm....Bazmany goodness....
#36300386822 01/15/2008 00:12:05 Re: Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"

MXO - "Restoration of Threads and Postings from the Bazman Sisters"



...Hi all and hi Inkblot!


I can't tell you how happy we are that all our threads and postings were restored. Inkblot, thank you so much for this difficult work and time you put in it. I know it was not easy and you spent probably many hours and nights with this restore process. Also we want thank to Raijinn in this case.

I am sure me and Ann will post to this forum again and we want continue to support the "options.cfg"/"useropts.cfg" users in this thread and in the simulation self. In last time we were not very often in MegaCity, but we both have never left MXO since beta testing - we are only lil bit busy with our real life work. I do still imagine there will come a new MATRIX movie or trilogy and this fantastic simulation will receive a new "Expansion Pack" (Add-In). 

I hope I see some of you in MegaCity or at least here in the next time. Thanks again to Inkblot and all of you who wrote to the mxo team and asked for this restoration and supported us in this special case.

** For those who didn't visited our page yet here is the link:



Hyperlink:
http://msbazman.com
or
http://bazmandev.com
 


ciao




Miss Arzu Bazman
[arzubazman] // «CONSTANCIA» // <DAF>


 

#36300386832 01/15/2008 00:25:56 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Hey, could I get the 100 or 1.00 (not sure which it was called) useropts settings that you give out, please? Thanks in advance!
#36300386865 01/15/2008 00:53:04 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Gerik wrote:
Hey, could I get the 100 or 1.00 (not sure which it was called) useropts settings that you give out, please? Thanks in advance!

you can use the 1.25 BUT be sure to make a copy of your original settings as these settings are not promted by the dev team.
#36300386879 01/15/2008 01:02:22 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"

Here, Ann sent me all of the newest files. Version 3.1

Here are the links (just incase people want them asap, since they havent been posted yet)

set 100

set 125

set 150

set 200

set 400

set 000
  <---- * (all of the files together)   SMILEY

#36300401164 02/06/2008 19:37:19 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
"Same here. with my 3 gigs of RAM, and 8800gt 512 mb, I still get like 4 fps when running the 4.00  O_O is there a certain trick to changing your settings in the video card control panel that helps this?"


Anyone know? I have a monster rig. I'm diein' to know how far I can push this baby SMILEY
#36300412907 02/23/2008 04:33:46 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
so are there any rules against using this stuff? I think my new comp could proberly handle it and i wanna give it a shot
#36300412919 02/23/2008 04:49:19 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Sarathai wrote:
so are there any rules against using this stuff? I think my new comp could properly handle it and i wanna give it a shot
Well as it does not give you an advantage over another player i don't believe there would be rules against it, its more of a visual upgrade for urself SMILEY
#36300412927 02/23/2008 05:00:20 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
yeah i thought that myself but i was looking and reading last night and I saw a few people talking about possible perma bans which come with it lol.

The 400 1 runs good for me, i just put it in lol.  Could always remove it if there is a problem with it
#36300412930 02/23/2008 05:21:37 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Sarathai wrote:
yeah i thought that myself but i was looking and reading last night and I saw a few people talking about possible perma bans which come with it lol.

The 400 1 runs good for me, i just put it in lol.  Could always remove it if there is a problem with it

just make sure you have a copy of your old useropts/options files to replaced them if needed.
#36300412934 02/23/2008 05:26:21 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
mantra777 wrote:
Sarathai wrote:
yeah i thought that myself but i was looking and reading last night and I saw a few people talking about possible perma bans which come with it lol.

The 400 1 runs good for me, i just put it in lol.  Could always remove it if there is a problem with it

just make sure you have a copy of your old useropts/options files to replaced them if needed.
even if you dont i believe the game will automatically make new ones for u when you launch the game with out them in the directory.. obviously though u will lose ur screen resolution etc, but that's not hard to change >_>
#36300412937 02/23/2008 05:36:35 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
yeah its ok, i copied em anyway. But  yeah if you delete em i think they just go back to default stuff anyways
#36300462369 06/01/2008 19:35:51 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Was wondering if anyone might be able to help me out here.  My computer seems able to handle even the 4.00x versions of these configs just fine when it comes to framerates, but it seems that as the viewable distance level increases, I start losing certain effects.

When I use the 4.00x configs, I almost never see the effects from applying buffs to myself, or the effect of a hyperjump landing.  Even the sound of it is completely absent.  When I try the 2.00x configs, it seems that I see the effects about 25% of the time.  With the 1.25x configs, the effects occur about 50% of the time.  It's totally hit or miss here and not related to any particular area in the game or any one setting in the configs that I've found.

The only thing I can think of to relate to you guys is this:  Have you ever enabled hyper-speed, only to have the trailing matrix code effect disappear after a while, even though hyper-speed is still active?  Sometimes it happens after going through a hardline.  It's very similar to that, except it happens quite frequently with these configs and no hardline is necessary.

Any ideas?  I know it's an odd one, but I'd appreciate any thoughts.


Rig:
Phenom 9850 Black
Dual ATI HD 3850's (512mb each)
4GB RAM
Vista x64

yes yes, I know MxO is barely Vista compatible but please don't take the easy way out and blame Vista.  I've never had an effect cut out on me with non-cool configs.
#36300465565 06/08/2008 21:16:04 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Frostbit wrote:
Was wondering if anyone might be able to help me out here.  My computer seems able to handle even the 4.00x versions of these configs just fine when it comes to framerates, but it seems that as the viewable distance level increases, I start losing certain effects.

When I use the 4.00x configs, I almost never see the effects from applying buffs to myself, or the effect of a hyperjump landing.  Even the sound of it is completely absent.  When I try the 2.00x configs, it seems that I see the effects about 25% of the time.  With the 1.25x configs, the effects occur about 50% of the time.  It's totally hit or miss here and not related to any particular area in the game or any one setting in the configs that I've found.

The only thing I can think of to relate to you guys is this:  Have you ever enabled hyper-speed, only to have the trailing matrix code effect disappear after a while, even though hyper-speed is still active?  Sometimes it happens after going through a hardline.  It's very similar to that, except it happens quite frequently with these configs and no hardline is necessary.

Any ideas?  I know it's an odd one, but I'd appreciate any thoughts.


Rig:
Phenom 9850 Black
Dual ATI HD 3850's (512mb each)
4GB RAM
Vista x64

yes yes, I know MxO is barely Vista compatible but please don't take the easy way out and blame Vista.  I've never had an effect cut out on me with non-cool configs.

some of these probs i have always had.. well one for sure.. My hyper-speed "efx" does fade away after awhile.  no matter what setting, what card, which pc, or which OS i use.  dunno why... i havent been able to fix it.  The Hyper-Jump effect and sound (mostly the landing) was messed up for me for awhile,,,   i just changed my over clock speed in my system bios and it fixed it.  i was like... wow.  thats all i needed to do???  The system i was using while having the HJ effect issue was new as was/is the bios.  I just needed to turn it down a tad from max overclocking.

I KNOW, my typing is messed up, at a friends and his keyboard is halfazzd, tiny keys... sorry.

SMILEY

#36300465603 06/09/2008 00:43:28 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Frostbit wrote:
Was wondering if anyone might be able to help me out here.  My computer seems able to handle even the 4.00x versions of these configs just fine when it comes to framerates, but it seems that as the viewable distance level increases, I start losing certain effects.

When I use the 4.00x configs, I almost never see the effects from applying buffs to myself, or the effect of a hyperjump landing.  Even the sound of it is completely absent.  When I try the 2.00x configs, it seems that I see the effects about 25% of the time.  With the 1.25x configs, the effects occur about 50% of the time.  It's totally hit or miss here and not related to any particular area in the game or any one setting in the configs that I've found.

The only thing I can think of to relate to you guys is this:  Have you ever enabled hyper-speed, only to have the trailing matrix code effect disappear after a while, even though hyper-speed is still active?  Sometimes it happens after going through a hardline.  It's very similar to that, except it happens quite frequently with these configs and no hardline is necessary.

Any ideas?  I know it's an odd one, but I'd appreciate any thoughts.
I've always had the Hyperspeed trail disappearing, but recently I upgraded my 3d card from a GeForce 7900GT to a Radeon 3870. I kept my old useropts, didn't change my game settings at all and a lot of my effects aren't there anymore. Just like your problem, could it possibly be your rig? Mine chokes even at 1.25, so I made my own "1.1" setting. But it never seemed to be related to my useropts.
#36300465699 06/09/2008 07:57:09 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Just got a new rig... Anyone that can send me the OP's op.cfg and userop.cfg, it would be appreciated.

†Somnolence - CYPH† Blue is our best hope.
#36300466895 06/12/2008 09:31:42 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
ZETAX101 wrote:
Just got a new rig... Anyone that can send me the OP's op.cfg and userop.cfg, it would be appreciated.

^^


Just click on my links a few posts up on this page of the thread.  These are Ann Bazman's Opt. and user Opt. files that she last gave me.  Unless she finished new ones, these are the most up to date. 

#36300467587 06/14/2008 15:44:46 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Pylat wrote:
I've always had the Hyperspeed trail disappearing, but recently I upgraded my 3d card from a GeForce 7900GT to a Radeon 3870. I kept my old useropts, didn't change my game settings at all and a lot of my effects aren't there anymore. Just like your problem, could it possibly be your rig? Mine chokes even at 1.25, so I made my own "1.1" setting. But it never seemed to be related to my useropts.

Well then it could conceivably be an ATI-specific problem then, huh.  That stinks.  I had to drop down to the 1.25 configs because they seem to display the effects most frequently while still giving me half decent draw distances.  I wish I could go higher, but I do like all those effects too.

I think I've narrowed it down to these three settings:
dl_sid_prefetchradius
dl_sidi_prefetchradius
dl_nav_prefetchradius

When I drop these three settings down, my effects appear more frequently, but things stop being drawn further out.  The fog is still way out there, but it looks as if bridges and buildings have just been sliced in half with a knife!
#36300467682 06/14/2008 23:05:29 Re:Mx0 ·· The balance of "options.cfg" and "useropts.cfg"
Frostbit wrote:
Pylat wrote:
I've always had the Hyperspeed trail disappearing, but recently I upgraded my 3d card from a GeForce 7900GT to a Radeon 3870. I kept my old useropts, didn't change my game settings at all and a lot of my effects aren't there anymore. Just like your problem, could it possibly be your rig? Mine chokes even at 1.25, so I made my own "1.1" setting. But it never seemed to be related to my useropts.

Well then it could conceivably be an ATI-specific problem then, huh.  That stinks.  I had to drop down to the 1.25 configs because they seem to display the effects most frequently while still giving me half decent draw distances.  I wish I could go higher, but I do like all those effects too.

I think I've narrowed it down to these three settings:
dl_sid_prefetchradius
dl_sidi_prefetchradius
dl_nav_prefetchradius

When I drop these three settings down, my effects appear more frequently, but things stop being drawn further out.  The fog is still way out there, but it looks as if bridges and buildings have just been sliced in half with a knife!

Hmm,,, ill have to mess with those 3 and see if i have any similarities.  Like Pylat, I also am ATi.  I have a new rig with two of the Radeon HD 3870's (oc edition, with 1gb of GDDR3, runs on DX 10.1 tech, with shader model 4.1, etc) on a new CrossfireX motherboard with two of the newer PCI.e 2 (X16) lanes, with a CrossFireX bridge, to totally complete the Quad-GPU's connection.  8GB's dual channel DDR2 (four 2gb ddr2 dual channel nvidia SLI sticks)  ....*gasp! , sorry, i 4got to breathe!*  Well anyway, its not done yet, I'm waiting on finding a couple specific parts that i want, instead of finishing it with any old part(s)...  dont wanna spend the money on something im just gonna replace soon -ya know?   Too bad this Rig i've been typing about here wont enhance MxO much, if any.  =(  sorry, kinda got excited thinking about the completed project.  It will be by far the most enhanced Rig i have ever made.  As long as Pylat has the same Radeon 3870 version that mine are, im sure he'd understand.   rofl

SMILEY

-Ang