Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

#34900007878 03/25/2006 20:43:20 Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

Hello all,

Im just wanting to express my frustration with Evade Sheids, its so overpowerful why were these even touched?

Now you spend your whole time trying to break a opponents sheild and less time fighting. Don't you guys realize the whole part of pvp is being able to fight now, its just who can break evade the fastest lol. I'm sorry to complain but its really frustrating.

Please put it back the way it was.

Thanks for the Memories MXO!

#34900007879 03/25/2006 21:03:54 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

I for one disagree. The new evade system works much better IMO since it is truly based on your stats and tactics and not on whether or not you can count to four. I'm guessing you haven't reconfig'd your stats and/or you're not using grab when you try to break shields.

#34900007886 03/25/2006 21:40:12 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

Yes Im doing all of that and it is silly.

Evade does not need to be so jacked up. Waste of time. SMILEY

Thanks for the Memories MXO!

#34900007887 03/25/2006 21:44:49 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

I don't know if you ever considered this but there are actually OTHER trees out there besides yours, such as snipers or hackers who want to stay out of interlock for at least 10 seconds.

Evade shield is fine as it is now. This thread does not deliver.

#34900007890 03/25/2006 21:49:13 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

also, which tactic are you using? If you are using speed or power tactic (blue or red) then it will take longer to break the sheilds because their Force Combat Bonuses are in the negative. Instead when you are trying to break the evade sheild change over to Grab Tactic (green) which gives a bonus to grab tactics and you'll see a big difference. Any tree I use anymore it only takes 2-3 times to break the evade sheilds...so no I don't agree that they are too strong anymore. Back when it took upwards of 8 times to break it then yes, but they were bugged at that time so it wasn't what they were intending.

#34900007894 03/25/2006 21:54:10 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

Use grab and force combat. It should only take you 2-3 hits, rarely 4. If that doesn't work, you are doing something very wrong SMILEY

#34900007896 03/25/2006 22:29:29 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

You're probably using speed or something, which makes it virtually impossible to break a shield.

Altho its pretty lame and annoying, anytime u really want to break a shield you have to switch tactics to grab. Should take 2-3 hits.

#34900007897 03/25/2006 22:56:20 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

Ive never had to use more than 2 hits to break a shield. Grab tactic FTW.

#34900007899 03/25/2006 23:36:58 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

krytical wrote:
I don't know if you ever considered this but there are actually OTHER trees out there besides yours, such as snipers or hackers who want to stay out of interlock for at least 10 seconds.

Evade shield is fine as it is now. This thread does not deliver.

Ah here's something for you to do SHUT UP. Blah blah

All you do is post negative responses in everyone's post, if you dont agree so what?

you dont have to be so frigging rude all the time. This is a forum if people have a problem or want to bring up a topic they will.

And by the way the "This thread doesnt deliver" Is so old.. find a new lame thing to say jack *CENSORED*.

To everyone else who responsed with positive comments, thanks I'll try to do that as well. I believe I'm doing it right, but perhaps I'm not using the correct one with MA. I stil feel anything longer then two hits to break evade is too strong.

I have most all trees, so just think it shouldn't matter what tree your using you should still be able to break evade in a reasonable amount of time.

Thanks for the Memories MXO!

#34900007902 03/25/2006 23:41:31 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

Midnight I don't know what you're complaining about. I can break them in two hits, usually get the opponent staggered, and interlock then Piston kicks or Ki charged foot sweep them. If anything, this new system is an advantage to the MAs if you have correct buffs to block whatever is being thrown at you.

Find the lighter side of things instead of complaining and bitching about people who post negative things in your posts. It happens, ignore it.

Message Edited by Roukan on 03-25-200611:42 PM

#34900007905 03/26/2006 00:39:16 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

MidnightFH wrote:

krytical wrote:
I don't know if you ever considered this but there are actually OTHER trees out there besides yours, such as snipers or hackers who want to stay out of interlock for at least 10 seconds.

Evade shield is fine as it is now. This thread does not deliver.

Ah here's something for you to do SHUT UP. Blah blah
All you do is post negative responses in everyone's post, if you dont agree so what?
you dont have to be so frigging rude all the time. This is a forum if people have a problem or want to bring up a topic they will.
And by the way the "This thread doesnt deliver" Is so old.. find a new lame thing to say jack *CENSORED*.
To everyone else who responsed with positive comments, thanks I'll try to do that as well. I believe I'm doing it right, but perhaps I'm not using the correct one with MA. I stil feel anything longer then two hits to break evade is too strong.
I have most all trees, so just think it shouldn't matter what tree your using you should still be able to break evade in a reasonable amount of time.

Haha, I'm seriously starting to become psychic, I knew you were going to reply like that.

But if you only were psychic like I'm you'd know that I only do it to see your reactions.

Love,
Krytical.

Message Edited by krytical on 03-26-200612:43 AM

#34900007907 03/26/2006 00:42:15 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

/loadlo Mean Mode 2.0

If you make threads to discuss your opinions you should be open minded and expect both kinds of kriticism. Specially when these threads include the nerfing suggestions of some abilities that might be useful to others.

Being the bad guy (or jack *CENSORED* as you call it) it's not an easy job, but someone's gotta do it.

Message Edited by krytical on 03-26-200612:53 AM

#34900007913 03/26/2006 01:50:48 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

Kryticals Kriticism Kan be harsh SMILEY

lol sorry......

He does have a point tho and others made some good points about the usage of tactics in this thread!

#34900007928 03/26/2006 05:00:11 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

Evade shield should not be an awakened ability, it should be buried deep within those trees that need it (or perhaps they should have an enhaced version), it looks stupid when it activates, makes little or no sense on a realism scale and serves no real purpose for most soldier classes other than to compensate for carelessness. Force combat and resist combat alone should be enough to deal with this issue.

#34900007931 03/26/2006 05:24:20 Re: Evade Sheilds are way to strong!

Personally it takes me 2-3 hits to break an evade shield with speed tactics, and only one to break it with grab, typically. Check your attributes, I can't remember which one it is which buffs force combat but you may want to use some more of that.