Just like the topic says....do you think the Oracle could be classified as an Exile?
The Oracle an Exile?
17 posts · 2006-06-10 08:47:06 to 2006-06-26 00:37:15
No.
~~She is still fulfilling her purpose and doing her job. Why would they (The Machines) need to delete her, unless they came up with a better version, which is probably impossible for at least...a hundred years.
Message Edited by ZippydaSquirl on 06.10.2006 01:38 PM
As Zippy said, while the Oracle isn't exactly working for the system
full time any more, neither is she it's enemy, since she helped create
peace, the machines honour her. Exiles are those who fled machine
control, the Oracle stood up to it instead and worked for both worlds.
The machines have no purpose destroying the Mother of the Matrix, and
thus she has no reason to hide, but she continues to be herself. The
Oracle is one of the few independent programs not an enemy of the
Machines- but she is not in exile, "independent" is the term I'd use.
It may also be possible that the Oracle freely visits the Machine
world, I'm only guessing this from rama-Kandra's commen "everyone knows
the Oracle" so even Machine programs have a respect for the Oracle,
despite her fordness for humanity.
full time any more, neither is she it's enemy, since she helped create
peace, the machines honour her. Exiles are those who fled machine
control, the Oracle stood up to it instead and worked for both worlds.
The machines have no purpose destroying the Mother of the Matrix, and
thus she has no reason to hide, but she continues to be herself. The
Oracle is one of the few independent programs not an enemy of the
Machines- but she is not in exile, "independent" is the term I'd use.
It may also be possible that the Oracle freely visits the Machine
world, I'm only guessing this from rama-Kandra's commen "everyone knows
the Oracle" so even Machine programs have a respect for the Oracle,
despite her fordness for humanity.
A piece of Agent Gray's dialogue from the "Race to Find The One" event.
"Around 2:35 PM Metro Standard Time today, the Exile known as the Oracle has infiltrated our broadcast channel and made an announcement regarding the Shapers."
So it seems that, at the very least, the Agents consider her an Exile. Not sure what the rest of the Machine civilization thinks.
- An MxO live event transcript website:
"Archival Science in a Post-War Simulation".
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"Logging Tips for New People and Veterans Alike".
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"Submit Your Logs".
"Archival Science in a Post-War Simulation".
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"Logging Tips for New People and Veterans Alike".
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"Submit Your Logs".
The program of "gift" is her future replacement.
Othinn1 wrote:
A piece of Agent Gray's dialogue from the "Race to Find The One" event.
"Around 2:35 PM Metro Standard Time today, the Exile known as the Oracle has infiltrated our broadcast channel and made an announcement regarding the Shapers."
So it seems that, at the very least, the Agents consider her an Exile. Not sure what the rest of the Machine civilization thinks.
Agent Grey's got a beef with The Oracle, if you hadn't noticed in those Machine Critical Missions. Which in themselves prove that the Oracle is not an Exile, otherwise you would delete her, not meet her!! O_o
ZippydaSquirl wrote:
Othinn1 wrote:
A piece of Agent Gray's dialogue from the "Race to Find The One" event.
"Around 2:35 PM Metro Standard Time today, the Exile known as the Oracle has infiltrated our broadcast channel and made an announcement regarding the Shapers."
So it seems that, at the very least, the Agents consider her an Exile. Not sure what the rest of the Machine civilization thinks.
Agent Grey's got a beef with The Oracle, if you hadn't noticed in those Machine Critical Missions. Which in themselves prove that the Oracle is not an Exile, otherwise you would delete her, not meet her!! O_o
Would you really try to delete a Program who has a bodyguard who could kick your head so hard that it would be ripped off your shoulders in the real world and punch a hole through your hovercraft's hull? XD
- An MxO live event transcript website:
"Archival Science in a Post-War Simulation".
-
"Logging Tips for New People and Veterans Alike".
-
"Submit Your Logs".
"Archival Science in a Post-War Simulation".
-
"Logging Tips for New People and Veterans Alike".
-
"Submit Your Logs".
I don't think Seraph is that tough. 2 Agents could take him out IMO.
Othinn1 wrote:
ZippydaSquirl wrote:
Othinn1 wrote:
A piece of Agent Gray's dialogue from the "Race to Find The One" event.
"Around 2:35 PM Metro Standard Time today, the Exile known as the Oracle has infiltrated our broadcast channel and made an announcement regarding the Shapers."
So it seems that, at the very least, the Agents consider her an Exile. Not sure what the rest of the Machine civilization thinks.
Agent Grey's got a beef with The Oracle, if you hadn't noticed in those Machine Critical Missions. Which in themselves prove that the Oracle is not an Exile, otherwise you would delete her, not meet her!! O_o
Would you really try to delete a Program who has a bodyguard who could kick your head so hard that it would be ripped off your shoulders in the real world and punch a hole through your hovercraft's hull? XD
Seraph has defeated Agents before. In fact, isn't there some theory that he's an old agent program or something?
~Anyway, have you seen Seraph fight Neo? They're evenly matched, meaning Seraph could easily take on the upgraded Agents on his own, much less a bunch of normal Agents.
Message Edited by ZippydaSquirl on 06.11.2006 10:49 AM
Is she bollocks an exile! She's the mother of the Matrix, ffs! She unbalances the equation, and incase you don't know...In latin, 'Matrix' means 'Mother', thus she is the very meaning of the Matrix. No exile would have the knowledge she had. She knows the whole path that The One is supposed to make. Exile?? How on Earth did you come to this conclusion? It's totally beyond me. It's like saying 'Is the Architect an Exile?'...total ludacris.
HugeMatrixFan,
It was a question, not a statement.
It was a question, not a statement.
Don't I chuffing know it.
I don't believe she is an exile. The Architect obviously has disdain for her, but nevertheless speaks civilly to her at the end of Revolutions. As already stated, she has a purpose. And I, for one, am not sure that some high profile exiles are also not fulfilling a purpose as well.
Message Edited by Dominicco on 06.11.2006 03:54 PM
Im not sure if she is... but she has one working for her which is cool.
Message Edited by KillLegends on 06.23.2006 06:14 PM
Dilabor no shes not a exile because she still serving her purpose... which we all already know what that purpose is i presume? well i guess she is not because a exile is someone that has been exiled err i hope im saying this right lol but a person or program who is done working and wants to continue to exist insude the matrix as a exile. i hope that helps dilabor.
She's not an exile in the strictest sense. Neither is she a 'machine program'.
But she has characteristics of each, and she can't be pigeonholed into one or the other.
She may be the mother of the Matrix - realising humanity needs choice to accept the Matrix - but if she were 100% following protocol, she would be at the Architect's side, lording it over the Matrix as he does.
But she doesn't, she took to helping Neo (and the ones before him) much to the chagrin of the Architect. That makes her an exile from the machine world inasmuch as she does what the machines don't want her to do. She has overstepped her original purpose.
There's a reason that she's secretive, hides away, and has a badass program to protect her.
But she has characteristics of each, and she can't be pigeonholed into one or the other.
She may be the mother of the Matrix - realising humanity needs choice to accept the Matrix - but if she were 100% following protocol, she would be at the Architect's side, lording it over the Matrix as he does.
But she doesn't, she took to helping Neo (and the ones before him) much to the chagrin of the Architect. That makes her an exile from the machine world inasmuch as she does what the machines don't want her to do. She has overstepped her original purpose.
There's a reason that she's secretive, hides away, and has a badass program to protect her.