The Closest Thing to a Matrix OS System
60 posts · 2006-04-23 15:51:35 to 2006-05-01 15:49:52
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I want one..:smileysad:
I want one..:smileysad:
I dont see quad GeForce in there.. ^^
Its a quad, Your just not paying attettion
OMG WE ALL NEED TO GET THESE STAT!
*reads* "2 of them"
Of course I saw that I just eh, checked if you had seen it... >.>
They are 2 in 1, thous the is 2 of them you must buy.
Faithlessness wrote:
*reads* "2 of them"
Of course I saw that I just eh, checked if you had seen it... >.>
4 GPUs
2 Cards
Message Edited by Warboy090 on 04-23-2006 08:15 PM
I know, I simply didnt see that line when I checked the first time...
They should have used a better motherboard and gotten 4 Datastar 500gb harddrives.
4 17" square LCD monitors? This is the 21st century, boy! Go widescreen!
Symmetric wrote:
4 17" square LCD monitors? This is the 21st century, boy! Go widescreen!
Sony PremierPro 23" Wide Screen Flat Panel LCD
4TW!!!
I wrote about 5 long paragraphs of my opinion on this setup and Thanks to Lithium and MxO Webmasters I hit submit and it all disappeared. Thanks for correct ing this problem in such a timely manner, lol, right!
Another thing, Why not get the 10,000 raptor harddrives? Your spending that much money and getting run of the mill 7200rpm drives.
Also I hope the Mobo supports those Video cards. Those cards take up two slots each.
And Your cards aren't duel gpu, If they were duel GPU you'd be paying much more money. BFG Pays Nvidia alot of money for their gpu chip. Why would they put two chips on one card and sell it for the same price as a single cihp card. Your confusing Duel GPU with SLI.
One Last thing. Don't waste your money on that processor. You can get a processor for half that price and overclock it. Go to any Computer Forurm out there and they'll call you a Noob for buying that processor.
Message Edited by Detrius_MXO on 04-24-2006 11:09 PM
Message Edited by Detrius_MXO on 04-24-2006 11:11 PM
I agree, at least 1 Raptor to put your OS on.
Detrius_MXO wrote:
Another thing, Why not get the 10,000 raptor harddrives? Your spending that much money and getting run of the mill 7200rpm drives.
It does. Asus is one of the few that has extra space between they're PCI-e x16 slots. He'll be able to fit those cards, and have some breathing room between.
Detrius_MXO wrote:
Also I hope the Mobo supports those Video cards. Those cards take up two slots each.
Detrius_MXO wrote:
AndExactly what I've been saying. Although I didn't look at the price
Your cards aren't duel gpu, If they were duel GPU you'd be paying much
more money. BFG Pays Nvidia alot of money for their gpu chip. Why would
they put two chips on one card and sell it for the same price as a
single cihp card. Your confusing Duel GPU with SLI.
, but you have a point a dual-GPU card would cost $700 minimum, probably more around $800-900 IF they made them, which noone has, yet (at least not GeForce 7900 Dual-GPU).
Detrius_MXO wrote:
One LastTrue you can do that, BUT you have absolutly NO warranty. Basically with the FX-60 you're paying for the warranty, and the fact that it's unlocked.
thing. Don't waste your money on that processor. You can get a
processor for half that price and overclock it. Go to any Computer
Forurm out there and they'll call you a Noob for buying that processor.
Double checking your list (I should have really looked it over better
), you should really look into buying 2 1GB sticks of memory instead of 4 sticks of 512. With the 4 sticks you're limited to a 2T command rate which is SLOW.Well at least with the other processor if he fries it he'll have enough to get another, lol! To be honest I overclock the hell out of my computer and have no issues.
OK got an idea get two 150 gig raptor drives for a total of around 500 dollars and then for your third drive get some 350 gig storage drive. bout the same price your paying now for yours.
Why in gods name do you need 4 X 400 gigs? Jeez They way your spending money while your at it buy me a few things because im poor.
Message Edited by Detrius_MXO on 04-25-2006 12:22 AM
Haha, I agree, but some people want that warranty, or they don't plan on overclocking and just want the fastest. I currently have a FX-55 only because it was the fastest processor at the time, and back then the 64s didn't OC well (mine's an 130nm). My next is going to be a Opteron 170
Detrius_MXO wrote:
Well at least with the other processor if he fries it he'll have enough to get another, lol! To be honest I overclock the hell out of my computer and have no issues.
Personally I think that 1x 150G raptor, and 3x 400G drives is the best setup if he want's the space. Sure having Raptors in RAID is nice, but there's no real-world benefit (unless you're doing video-editing, or running a high traffic server). Every benchmark that I've seen on game load times with Raptors it's been the same for 1 drive or 2 RAID drives.
Detrius_MXO wrote:
OK got an idea get two 150 gig raptor drives for a total of around 500
dollars and then for your third drive get some 350 gig storage drive.
bout the same price your paying now for yours.
that aint 512 buddy, thats 4 sticks of 1gb EACH. so that comes out to around 4gb total
Konvertor wrote:
Double checking your list (I should have really looked it over better
Sorry, then i misread :-/ The same principal holds true. You'll still be limited to a 2T command rate with the 4 sticks. Too bad sticks of 2GB DDR400 are so rare
Warboy090 wrote:that aint 512 buddy, thats 4 sticks of 1gb EACH. so that comes out to around 4gb total
Konvertor wrote:
Double checking your list (I should have really looked it over better
Can't wait for socket AM2 and DDR2/Cheap 1GB+ memory! I ♥ AM2dude. . . i want one:smileyindifferent:
You got a spare $1,083 laying around?
Mobyias wrote:
dude. . . i want one:smileyindifferent:
7 grand for a pc?
whats your job? and when are you buying that?
whats your job? and when are you buying that?
I will never give up the fight to return Neo.
I know of a PC that costs 14 grand without addons.
That sounds really nice, could you post some pics when you build it up?
I wanna see the 8 screens O.o
Is it one desktop pc with 8 screens and 3 keyboards? And which OS do you think can handle that?
Btw OS means Operating system. (OS system = noob, coz Operating system system, but nvm)
An operating system (OS) is an essential software program that manages the hardware and software resources of a computer.
OS has nothing to do with the content of this thread thats a pity
because I expected a matrix OS, maybe a nice Linux derivative,
distribution. DA incredible MxO OS 1.0!
But your workstation is teh hot™ =D and i would love to see it running, but i wonder which OS would meet the requirements.
I wanna see the 8 screens O.o
Is it one desktop pc with 8 screens and 3 keyboards? And which OS do you think can handle that?
Btw OS means Operating system. (OS system = noob, coz Operating system system, but nvm
)An operating system (OS) is an essential software program that manages the hardware and software resources of a computer.
OS has nothing to do with the content of this thread thats a pity
because I expected a matrix OS, maybe a nice Linux derivative,
distribution. DA incredible MxO OS 1.0!
But your workstation is teh hot™ =D and i would love to see it running, but i wonder which OS would meet the requirements.
We know what OS means hotshot.
Sosuke1 wrote:
That sounds really nice, could you post some pics when you build it up?
I wanna see the 8 screens O.o
Is it one desktop pc with 8 screens and 3 keyboards? And which OS do you think can handle that?
Btw OS means Operating system. (OS system = noob, coz Operating system system, but nvm
An operating system (OS) is an essential software program that manages the hardware and software resources of a computer.
OS has nothing to do with the content of this thread thats a pity
because I expected a matrix OS, maybe a nice Linux derivative,
distribution. DA incredible MxO OS 1.0!
But your workstation is teh hot™ =D and i would love to see it running, but i wonder which OS would meet the requirements.
Linux is a OS
Windows is a OS
DOS is a OS
Mac is a OS
etc
etc
etc
Message Edited by Warboy090 on 04-24-2006 04:56 PM
Hey, uh, congrats on becoming a Matrix Archivist!
Blast, the Archivists are ganging up...We need more RSI Idealists. NOW!!!
3 vs. about what...a dozen or more?
PBlade wrote:
Blast, the Archivists are ganging up...We need more RSI Idealists. NOW!!!
I likes them odds.
Hey, i'm a Zionite, outnumbering is my game! :smileyvery-happy:
5 imaginary stars to you for correctly referring to us as Zionites and not Zionists.
PBlade wrote:
Hey, i'm a Zionite, outnumbering is my game! :smileyvery-happy:
Too bad when running SLI you lose dual monitor support. BUT! There is technology to expand to 3 monitors with a single VGA output.
Thank you
Where did you get the idea that those are dual GPU cards? They have dual DVI output, but only one chip per card....
Even the big system builders (Dell, Alienware, et al) don't have quad-SLI systems yet, and they'll have them long before you'll be able to buy hte individual cards required.
Even the big system builders (Dell, Alienware, et al) don't have quad-SLI systems yet, and they'll have them long before you'll be able to buy hte individual cards required.
You need to do your homework, they are dual GPU cards, Want me to show you how it works?
Konvertor wrote:
Where did you get the idea that those are dual GPU cards? They have dual DVI output, but only one chip per card....
Even the big system builders (Dell, Alienware, et al) don't have quad-SLI systems yet, and they'll have them long before you'll be able to buy hte individual cards required.
I'm not trying to flame here, but no they're not.
Warboy090 wrote:You need to do your homework, they are dual GPU cards, Want me to show you how it works?
Konvertor wrote:
Where did you get the idea that those are dual GPU cards? They have dual DVI output, but only one chip per card....
Even the big system builders (Dell, Alienware, et al) don't have quad-SLI systems yet, and they'll have them long before you'll be able to buy hte individual cards required.
They are just regular 7900GTXs. Overclocked yes, but still regular 7900GTXs. It says nowhere they're dual-GPU, even on the TigerDirect site you link to...
Warboy090 wrote:
We know what OS means hotshot.
Linux is a OS
Windows is a OS
DOS is a OS
Mac is a OS
etc
etc
etc
Disk Operating System is an Operating System?? Now who is the hotshot?
But I dont wanna start a flame here, Im sorry for correcting you...
Will I ever see the 8 screens? Or is it just a blueprint?
Sosuke1 wrote:
Warboy090 wrote:
We know what OS means hotshot.
Linux is a OS
Windows is a OS
DOS is a OS
Mac is a OS
etc
etc
etc
Disk Operating System is an Operating System?? Now who is the hotshot?
But I dont wanna start a flame here, Im sorry for correcting you...
Will I ever see the 8 screens? Or is it just a blueprint?
Windows actually runs off the DOS system, so in technicallity, Windows is DOS.
Windows XP is no longer DOS based.
Hitomori wrote:
Sosuke1 wrote:
Warboy090 wrote:
We know what OS means hotshot.
Linux is a OS
Windows is a OS
DOS is a OS
Mac is a OS
etc
etc
etc
Disk Operating System is an Operating System?? Now who is the hotshot?
But I dont wanna start a flame here, Im sorry for correcting you...
Will I ever see the 8 screens? Or is it just a blueprint?
Windows actually runs off the DOS system, so in technicallity, Windows is DOS.
Giveen wrote:Windows XP is no longer DOS based.
Hitomori wrote:
Sosuke1 wrote:
Warboy090 wrote:
We know what OS means hotshot.
Linux is a OS
Windows is a OS
DOS is a OS
Mac is a OS
etc
etc
etc
Disk Operating System is an Operating System?? Now who is the hotshot?
But I dont wanna start a flame here, Im sorry for correcting you...
Will I ever see the 8 screens? Or is it just a blueprint?
Windows actually runs off the DOS system, so in technicallity, Windows is DOS.
Yea I know, that's why they have a command prompt to open up the DOS *roll's eyes*
Windows has not ever changed their core kernel, they just keep adding more to it.
Actually that's a Command Prompt emulator. It's not a real DOS command prompt. And yes they have changed their core kernel. The NT kernel which Windows NT, 2000, XP, 2003, and Vista are based was written completely from scratch for Windows NT. It is totally seperate from the 9x kernel.
Hitomori wrote:
Giveen wrote:Windows XP is no longer DOS based.
Hitomori wrote:
Sosuke1 wrote:
Warboy090 wrote:
We know what OS means hotshot.
Linux is a OS
Windows is a OS
DOS is a OS
Mac is a OS
etc
etc
etc
Disk Operating System is an Operating System?? Now who is the hotshot?
But I dont wanna start a flame here, Im sorry for correcting you...
Will I ever see the 8 screens? Or is it just a blueprint?
Windows actually runs off the DOS system, so in technicallity, Windows is DOS.
Yea I know, that's why they have a command prompt to open up the DOS *roll's eyes*
Windows has not ever changed their core kernel, they just keep adding more to it.
Message Edited by Konvertor on 04-24-2006 11:43 PM
Thank you Giveen
Giveen wrote:Windows XP is no longer DOS based.
Hitomori wrote:
Sosuke1 wrote:
Warboy090 wrote:
We know what OS means hotshot.
Linux is a OS
Windows is a OS
DOS is a OS
Mac is a OS
etc
etc
etc
Disk Operating System is an Operating System?? Now who is the hotshot?
But I dont wanna start a flame here, Im sorry for correcting you...
Will I ever see the 8 screens? Or is it just a blueprint?
Windows actually runs off the DOS system, so in technicallity, Windows is DOS.
Where do you live by the way? If you price out all of your stuff on Newegg.com it looks like you save 1-2 hundred dollars over tigerdirct. Processor Tiger: 1199 Process Newegg 1020.
Ill give you a hint, the only state that looks like a hand or glove
Detrius_MXO wrote:
Where do you live by the way? If you price out all of your stuff on Newegg.com it looks like you save 1-2 hundred dollars over tigerdirct. Processor Tiger: 1199 Process Newegg 1020.
None of the States in the US look like a glove. But if it's in the states then buy from Newegg. Save the money deal with possibly the best company out there when it comes to shipping.
Warboy090 wrote:Ill give you a hint, the only state that looks like a hand or glove
Detrius_MXO wrote:
Where do you live by the way? If you price out all of your stuff on Newegg.com it looks like you save 1-2 hundred dollars over tigerdirct. Processor Tiger: 1199 Process Newegg 1020.
Look closer
NOt sure, think the closet one is Michigan. But I don't see the glove you speak of.
Your telling me michigan doesnt look like a glove?
Actually a dual-GPU card does exist (I think it's dual-7800 cores) from .. ASUS? may be mistaken.
There are no dual-7900 cards, and the dual-7800 that does exist cannot be run in SLI, and I think it also has to run in a specific motherboard. Custom PC did a small feature on it in the last few months, might dig it out when I get home later.
As for the system itself, it's kinda nice but you can get much more performance for much less IME.
The case is nice, though I've never heard of it. Are you sure the 'air conditioning' is so much better than a cohesive air-cooling solution that it warrants a $100+ hike in price over other top-range cases?
There's nothing particularly *wrong* with the processor, though you'd be much better off waiting for Intel to release their Conroe chip which will be much faster, cooler and use less power. I've been using AMD for years, but if it's all about the fastest performance then you have to simply go for the best components regardless of brand.
Motherboard is reasonable IMO - I'm using an ASUS board and it's a solid piece of kit.
Corsair is good memory, but 4GB? Do you really need that much? Unless you're going to be 3D modelling or something of that magnitude, 4GB is just a useless e-peen extension. 2GB, 2.5GB tops I would go for.
You can get far better drives than the Western Digitals.
Graphics card is nice - I have a BFG 7800GT and it's great. Though with 2 of them there won't be much opportunity to fit many other expansion cards inside. I have a single card and it's already a limiting factor.
The X-Fi is a nice card - I just got one, but you can save a bit of money by not getting the Fatal1ty and just getting the Platinum.
The Fatal1ty has X-RAM but in current games it hasn't proven to make much of a difference - if any difference at all, and there's no concrete assurance that game devs will make full use of it in the future. They still have to play to the common denominator of consumer components.
If you don't even need the breakout box, save even more and get the XtremeMusic.
I've never heard of Ultra Powersupplies.
Tagan or Seasonic are proven heavyweights. It makes 0% sense to spend thousands on a PC then put a **bleep**ty PSU in the back of it. Pay extra for extra quality and assurance.
Can't see why you need all those screens honestly O_o
The Samsung monitors are pretty 'meh' - only 8ms response time for a 17" panel?
Get some Dell 20" 2001FPs, or some of their swanky new widescreen models.
Same with keyboards ... AFAIK you can only use one keyboard at a time in any one system so I'm confused.
There are no dual-7900 cards, and the dual-7800 that does exist cannot be run in SLI, and I think it also has to run in a specific motherboard. Custom PC did a small feature on it in the last few months, might dig it out when I get home later.
As for the system itself, it's kinda nice but you can get much more performance for much less IME.
The case is nice, though I've never heard of it. Are you sure the 'air conditioning' is so much better than a cohesive air-cooling solution that it warrants a $100+ hike in price over other top-range cases?
There's nothing particularly *wrong* with the processor, though you'd be much better off waiting for Intel to release their Conroe chip which will be much faster, cooler and use less power. I've been using AMD for years, but if it's all about the fastest performance then you have to simply go for the best components regardless of brand.
Motherboard is reasonable IMO - I'm using an ASUS board and it's a solid piece of kit.
Corsair is good memory, but 4GB? Do you really need that much? Unless you're going to be 3D modelling or something of that magnitude, 4GB is just a useless e-peen extension. 2GB, 2.5GB tops I would go for.
You can get far better drives than the Western Digitals.
Graphics card is nice - I have a BFG 7800GT and it's great. Though with 2 of them there won't be much opportunity to fit many other expansion cards inside. I have a single card and it's already a limiting factor.
The X-Fi is a nice card - I just got one, but you can save a bit of money by not getting the Fatal1ty and just getting the Platinum.
The Fatal1ty has X-RAM but in current games it hasn't proven to make much of a difference - if any difference at all, and there's no concrete assurance that game devs will make full use of it in the future. They still have to play to the common denominator of consumer components.
If you don't even need the breakout box, save even more and get the XtremeMusic.
I've never heard of Ultra Powersupplies.
Tagan or Seasonic are proven heavyweights. It makes 0% sense to spend thousands on a PC then put a **bleep**ty PSU in the back of it. Pay extra for extra quality and assurance.
Can't see why you need all those screens honestly O_o
The Samsung monitors are pretty 'meh' - only 8ms response time for a 17" panel?
Get some Dell 20" 2001FPs, or some of their swanky new widescreen models.
Same with keyboards ... AFAIK you can only use one keyboard at a time in any one system so I'm confused.
Yes they did, but it was just a prototype, never went into production. Same with Gigabyte's? 6800 series dual GPU card. Thus why I added the 7900 qualifier
[CoZ]LostProphet wrote:
Actually a dual-GPU card does exist (I think it's dual-7800 cores) from .. ASUS? may be mistaken.
There are no dual-7900 cards, and the dual-7800 that does exist cannot be run in SLI, and I think it also has to run in a specific motherboard. Custom PC did a small feature on it in the last few months, might dig it out when I get home later.
I'm all AMD, but I'd agree. Unless AMD has some trick up their sleeve with AM2 (which it seems they don't) K10 will be their only hope.
[CoZ]LostProphet wrote:
There's nothing particularly *wrong* with the processor, though you'd
be much better off waiting for Intel to release their Conroe chip which
will be much faster, cooler and use less power. I've been using AMD for
years, but if it's all about the fastest performance then you have to
simply go for the best components regardless of brand.
With a dual-core CPU I don't think that 4GB is uncalled for. Excessive, yes, but too much no.
[CoZ]LostProphet wrote:
Corsair
is good memory, but 4GB? Do you really need that much? Unless you're
going to be 3D modelling or something of that magnitude, 4GB is just a
useless e-peen extension. 2GB, 2.5GB tops I would go for.
All I'm going to say is I've seen numerous dead Seagate and Maxtor drives. I have yet *nockonwood* to see ONE dead WD drive...
[CoZ]LostProphet wrote:
You can get far better drives than the Western Digitals.
From what I've read Ultra-X makes OK powersupplies. Personally I've never heard of Tagan or Seasonic...
[CoZ]LostProphet wrote:
I've never heard of Ultra Powersupplies.
Tagan or Seasonic are
proven heavyweights. It makes 0% sense to spend thousands on a PC then
put a **bleep**ty PSU in the back of it. Pay extra for extra quality
and assurance.
PC Power & Cooling is my choice =D
You didn't notice...it's a Matrix setup. 2001FPs would pwn. My friend got one of the 22" widescreen models and says that it's perfect. It's possible to use more than one keyboard, there's not really any need for more than one, but once again he's going for a Matrix setup here.
[CoZ]LostProphet wrote:
Can't see why you need all those screens honestly O_o
The Samsung monitors are pretty 'meh' - only 8ms response time for a 17" panel?
Get some Dell 20" 2001FPs, or some of their swanky new widescreen models.
Same with keyboards ... AFAIK you can only use one keyboard at a time in any one system so I'm confused.
More money than sense then, no offence to Warboy
I have a Dell 2001FP and it is the bees knees, dogs danglies, whatever you want to call it
Their new 30" widescreen looks hawt <3
I've seen dead Maxtor and IBM (though now Hitachi with better performance) drives, but always had a pretty good experience with Seagate.
I was mistaken with my 'much better' comment, I think I was thinking of Maxtor >_< (a company my dad used to work for had a delivery of 25 of those drives - all dead O_O)
Tagan/SeaSonic might be more European, but Tagan for sure has come out on top in most, if not all, Power Supply group tests I've seen.
AMD procs aren't bottlenecked by memory bandwidth like the Pentium 4s are - at present AM2 only offers a benefit when you start talking about more cores-per-chip. Unless you're building multi-processor servers, Conroe will be the market leader until AMD's next-gen chip comes about (2007?)
I have a Dell 2001FP and it is the bees knees, dogs danglies, whatever you want to call it
Their new 30" widescreen looks hawt <3
I've seen dead Maxtor and IBM (though now Hitachi with better performance) drives, but always had a pretty good experience with Seagate.
I was mistaken with my 'much better' comment, I think I was thinking of Maxtor >_< (a company my dad used to work for had a delivery of 25 of those drives - all dead O_O)
Tagan/SeaSonic might be more European, but Tagan for sure has come out on top in most, if not all, Power Supply group tests I've seen.
AMD procs aren't bottlenecked by memory bandwidth like the Pentium 4s are - at present AM2 only offers a benefit when you start talking about more cores-per-chip. Unless you're building multi-processor servers, Conroe will be the market leader until AMD's next-gen chip comes about (2007?)