A New Saviour - MXO Forum Archive

#11200003708 04/02/2006 01:33:40 A New Saviour

I don't know if this has been mentioned before but I have a theory as to how someone becomes the new 'One'. When 'The One' reaches the source and dies the machines recycle them and their remains get fed into someones pod and that person becomes the new 'One' because they have been given the power of 'The One' through their remains. Why else would neo have been chosen he didn't seem that special at first it could of just been chance that he was fed the remains of the previous 'One'.

#11200003709 04/02/2006 03:01:58 Re: A New Saviour

Interesting take but consider this. Neo did not believe in fate. He believed in his own life and creating its outcomes. He never truely believed the oracle. He even did things she did not see or did things she and The Architect said he couldn't. He defied all odds because he believed in himself. He had no bounds because he did not believe. Most humans, in the film, believed in fate or/and in the Oracle. That sets them with limits. Neo was limitless in his mind hence bringing his greater power. To me there was no "The One" it was just a man brought into the real world that believed in paving his own path. That is just my take though.

#11200003710 04/02/2006 08:38:46 Re: A New Saviour

Interesting theory Fractor but I don't think it works. If The One is fed to the next One, this would imply that a new One would appear within a couple of decades (as he grew up) after the demise of the previous One. We know from the movies that they believed they had been at war for 100 years after being freed by the previous One. This is obviously too much time for 'one' to appear right after the other. The Architect mentioned that the anomaly is systemic -- it builds up over time until it finally manifests itself in one person.

Message Edited by digitize on 04-02-200612:42 PM

#11200003712 04/02/2006 16:24:16 Re: A New Saviour

You're basing that theory on the fact that "The One" is a biological factor and is passed immediately from one person to the other. If that was the case then the machines could get rid of the equation. The One is a systemic anomaly, the machines do not chose who The One becomes nor does the One himself. It also should be noted that The One is a free mind and would die in Zion not in the matrix. It is also established that it takes time for the one to be found. This instance of Zion and the war has gone on for 100 years. Morpheus said that he spent his entire life finding the one and refers to the previous one as a legend and not like he knew him personally.

Fractor basically sums up what made Neo special. He chose not to accept the Oracle's destiny or the Architect's role and decided to go his own way.

#11200003715 04/04/2006 04:01:50 Re: A New Saviour

Shadow Griever wrote:
You're basing that theory on the fact that "The One" is a biological factor and is passed immediately from one person to the other. If that was the case then the machines could get rid of the equation.
Indeed. Something of a Destroying the Bloodlines system.
The One is a systemic anomaly, the machines do not chose who The One becomes nor does the One himself. It also should be noted that The One is a free mind and would die in Zion not in the matrix. It is also established that it takes time for the one to be found. This instance of Zion and the war has gone on for 100 years. Morpheus said that he spent his entire life finding the one and refers to the previous one as a legend and not like he knew him personally.
Fractor basically sums up what made Neo special. He chose not to accept the Oracle's destiny or the Architect's role and decided to go his own way.

Systemic anomaly: I think...that he is the inevitable product of an equation that is otherwise perfect. That is , the harmony between Man and Machine within the Matrix. It could be argued that an anomaly is when a Program and a Biological factor are both designed into the same mix, regardless of what the program is, allowing the Anomaly access to the Matrix's prime data source and use it to his advantage (i.e. superpowers).

This would also create a cascading effect as Data quickly becomes corrupted, threatining the Matrix. The only way to reverse this virus-like behavior is to reinsert the Prime Program of the Anomaly back into the Source, so it can be sorted out and input to the Matrix (Reset).

#11200004172 05/14/2006 13:35:28 Re: A New Saviour

i believe that the person who becomes the one, is random, and the person's RSL gets a code or its not nothing to do to the matrix but it just take's a person with a state of mind, the abiltiy to believe that the matrix is nothing more then a program a program which rules can easily been overraided

i hope that makes sense

#11200004180 05/15/2006 01:45:51 Re: A New Saviour

Yeah, the One's abilities are due to an equation creating a mind
profoundly detatched from the Matrix and thus able to bend it to his
will... and Neo's choices are what made him greater than those before
him. As to the theory of Neo being fed the remains of a previous One, I
don't think it works for one simple reason- if the Machines did that
they would know who the One would be and stop him from achieving
enlightenment...or simply not feed the remains to him.

#11200004181 05/15/2006 03:25:42 Re: A New Saviour

why would the machine's stop the one, the one was design to give choice, since with out choice the humans in the matrix would reject and die

#11200004190 05/17/2006 10:14:55 Re: A New Saviour

I dunno, I don't think it had to do with what he was fed...in the real world, that is. In a sense, he was kind of "fed" the disseminated code from the previous anomalies that had returned to the source, it was "attached" to his RSI when he was born.

#11200004195 05/18/2006 10:14:29 Re: A New Saviour

Mon May 01 20:07:50 2006 [Area] Oracle: There have been other Ones, you know--before him.
Mon May 01 20:08:04 2006 [Area] Oracle: He was different, though. He changed the game.
...
Mon May 01 20:08:43 2006 [Area] Oracle: Maybe... Or maybe he made it so that you don't need another One anymore. That was the old way the system worked.
Mon May 01 20:08:54 2006 [Area] Oracle: Neo stopped the cycles.

Just thought I'd put that here for those that might not be aware.

#11200004197 05/18/2006 15:40:47 Re: A New Saviour

The One doesn't die when he reaches the Source. He disseminates the code he carries, then chooses 23 individuals from the Matrix to rebuild Zion. If he's dead, how is he supposed to pick those people?

The One is an eventuality of the anomaly. That means that he is the possible result of the anomaly. The anomaly is the rejection of the Matrix by 1% of the population. Over time, these rejections (in the form of code) end up in a human, making him the One. These rejections are the code he carries, which he later disseminates into the Source. The One is not a human modified by machines, otherwise he wouldn't be a possible result--he'd be a certainty.

Also, the prime program is the Path of the One. In programming terms, a "prime program" is a subprogram within a larger program (don't let the word "prime" fool you). During the Race to Find the One, the Architect stated that the reinsertion of the prime program had been aborted. That means that the Path of the One was halted. Normally it ends with the One reaching the Source and begins with 23 individuals being chosen to rebuild Zion. Neo halted that cycle (as minuend pointed out with his Oracle conversation), and now there is no longer a Path of the One.