118 posts · 2009-04-25 04:49:29 to 2009-05-03 05:39:17
lol yes cause you know fine well who speaks to me there.. dude just go away lol
Yes a chip butty means i have a chip on my shoulder lol /nodshead
The_Bruceter wrote:
lol yes cause you know fine well who speaks to me there.. dude just go away lol
Yes a chip butty means i have a chip on my shoulder lol /nodshead
I'm not leaving until you come ingame and kiss my ring, cupcake.
and read it again...Jesus....christ....
whisper to Syntax.Endomorph>Hey scumbucket!!! Post all you want right here man. Stop cluttering up the forums...
and read it again, Anti Christ 
The_Bruceter wrote:
whisper to Syntax.Endomorph>Hey scumbucket!!! Post all you want right here man. Stop cluttering up the forums...
and read it again, Anti Christ
I did read it again i also see a comma.
whisper to Vector-Hostile.TheBruceter>I'm sorry im too scared to talk to a Vectorite them being so hostile and all.
Yeau huh
SPAM!!!!!
More SPAM!!!
The_Bruceter wrote:
Yeau huh
SPAM!!!!!
More SPAM!!!
For someone who is meant to be PvPing, and chasing reds there sure must be alot of PvP on, for you to keep posting on the forums like this.
Still ain't out of LA yet, some tube keeps replying to me..
The_Bruceter wrote:
Still ain't out of LA yet, some tube keeps replying to me..
I wonder who that could be.
Aye they guy that replies to me when i even type Spam lol but has only sent me what 5 messgaes ingame so far but about 15 here. Grow up and tlak ingame lol
The_Bruceter wrote:
Aye they guy that replies to me when i even type Spam lol but has only sent me what 5 messgaes ingame so far but about 15 here. Grow up and tlak ingame lol
I'm talking to you ingame i just need a translator to help me understand what you're typing.
There was me thinking google might have your language, man was i wrong.
Hardy hardy har, well done. More spam but no replies ingame. Attention hore (big sign pointing at Endo)
whisper to Syntax.Endomorph>but aye, i'm like you. I don't care what people think of me mate
whisper to Syntax.Endomorph>So keep bringing me down, your going down with me ; )
Nothing back but still posting here lol Ingame man, honestly..
The_Bruceter wrote:
Hardy hardy har, well done. More spam but no replies ingame. Attention hore (big sign pointing at Endo)
whisper to Syntax.Endomorph>but aye, i'm like you. I don't care what people think of me mate
whisper to Syntax.Endomorph>So keep bringing me down, your going down with me ; )
Nothing back but still posting here lol Ingame man, honestly..
I told you come join our little conversation.
And anyway what's the difference between ingame and on the forums?
I think you just dont want people to see you play the role of Internet gangster.
Internet gangster? lol naw.. good insult though. Use to 'emo' 'noob' and from Anx 'Carebear' lol
Diff between here and ingame? People don't need to read both of our nonsense dribble lol but you cna't take th hint and i'll be logging from the game and forums soon and coming back when the event starts
The_Bruceter wrote:
Internet gangster? lol naw.. good insult though. Use to 'emo' 'noob' and from Anx 'Carebear' lol
Diff between here and ingame? People don't need to read both of our nonsense dribble lol but you cna't take th hint and i'll be logging from the game and forums soon and coming back when the event starts
They do need to listen to your nonsense it's worth a months subscription, such fresh content.
Aye ha ha more than what the devs are doing eh? lol
The_Bruceter wrote:
Aye ha ha more than what the devs are doing eh? lol
What devs?
True 
Wish Rare made some pvp content before he left. Only DM and rarely anyone goes in there. If there was some sort of auto flagging system on syntax, i would prob enjoy it more. But it just gets so monotonous so quick. Especially with the people who need to rebuff etc then flag. (but true they'd buff before they'd enter the auto flag >_<
Just to many probs with non hostile pvp for it to work well.
The_Bruceter wrote:
True
Wish Rare made some pvp content before he left. Only DM and rarely anyone goes in there. If there was some sort of auto flagging system on syntax, i would prob enjoy it more. But it just gets so monotonous so quick. Especially with the people who need to rebuff etc then flag. (but true they'd buff before they'd enter the auto flag >_<
Here we go again....
Yeup
Only listing my flaws to it. You are after all on the vector boards
The_Bruceter wrote:
Yeup
Only listing my flaws to it. You are after all on the vector boards
Indeed i am, i think i like it here on these boards i'm going to have to watch over them from now on.
Cool. Make sure to laugh at Woken while your here 
You might even like the people enough to lvl up and kick their butts.. lol
Endomorph wrote:
The_Bruceter wrote:
Internet gangster? lol naw.. good insult though. Use to 'emo' 'noob' and from Anx 'Carebear' lol
Diff between here and ingame? People don't need to read both of our nonsense dribble lol but you cna't take th hint and i'll be logging from the game and forums soon and coming back when the event starts
They do need to listen to your nonsense it's worth a months subscription, such fresh content.
LOL, i'll back bruce up in a verbal deathmatch simply because i don't know you.. but that made me LOL
Endomorph wrote:
Omega0 wrote:
Endomorph wrote:
Paschendale wrote:
but seriously.. did everyone really have a problem being flagged?
I probably have a combined level total of around 200, and rarely found this to be a problem. During events we had enough patchers (ahh the good old area heals that cured everyone) to offset the Howitzers/Jerks during events. And now there are no events so this isn't a problem.
The only time this was a problem for me was when Oooroyooo chased me from midian all the way to Dannah back in the day... lolNobody has a problem with being flagged, the problem is alot of Vectorites attitudes towards us they make alts on our server every other month people like Macside come and smacktalk, ontop of that on this dying game what does Vector have to offer us that we dont have on our home server?
A hostile enviroment? i'll make a lowbie and run through westview
Vector has better player events, by far, and a better community too, in my opinion. Also, you can't seriously think that running through Westview as a lowbie is anything like being chased by reds on Vector. I have experienced both, and trust me, there's a huge difference.
I've experienced both also, it's called sarcasm and of course in your eyes the community is better, i mean you log onto Syntax put on your perpetual stand around for 10 minutes then logout, You dont even interact with others because alot of us got bored of you alongtime ago.
LOL, there are so many things wrong with this post, where to begin...
First of all, if you don't know how to use sarcasm correctly, then you shouldn't try to use it at all.
Second, when I log onto Syntax, I usually leave way before ten minutes have passed, more like one or two minutes. It's kind of depressing to log onto Syntax. Sometimes I see people PvPing, but there's usually more Zionites flagged than Mechs or Mervs, and I only enjoy PvP when it's challenging.
I can't believe you would pretend to know why I don't interact with others. Actually, I do occasionally interact with people, just not usually in Mara. And what makes you think that people got bored of me? Is it because when I log on, people are usually just standing around like a bunch of zombies? I'm pretty sure it's like that even when I'm not online.
I pretty much only stay logged on if there are people online for me to RP with, or if someone asks me to help with farming, or if there's a player event that looks fun (like this one or this one example). Unfortunately, most of the player events on Syntax don't interest me at all. Vector, on the other hand, has many player events that I enjoy.
Lastly, the reason why Vector's community is better is because you don't play over here.
Endomorph wrote:
The_Bruceter wrote:
Some people over there have a massive chip on their shoulders. They truley think that 1. Their pvp is better 2. They are pvp gods.
All funny from this side. I went there and tried it out but nope, absolutely nothing compared to here. Fair enough a bit faster, odd time a couple of more people. But in the end, it seems to be the same 20 people that flag... lol It gets boring an repetative so fast, none of that 'CHARGE!!!' over there.
We know what we're like and where we're staying.
So much more respect for others over here. There its quite (alot) more trash talking on syntax. They love huddling up and out talk each other. Quite amusing when your smoking ha ha
Who ever claimed to be a pvp god or claim that one server's pvp is better then the others, the answer is nobody.
Wrong.
Mistakes wrote:
The BEST pvp and the best pvpers in this game have always come from syntax and the three servers that built it.
In CR1 it was this server that pioneered the use of dodge ranged character builds and clothes that ultimately lead to the breaking of pve and pvp in the cr1 system. While vector was busy comming up with "logic cannon 2.0 and sneak". lol
In CR2 this server has regularly gone on to stomp the other two servers in every way possible dominating their tournaments and pvp. While vector came up with "logic cannon 2.0 and sneak".
How about you guys come here and learn how to do it right.
-sonofthree
Syntax = Over inflated ego's ?
Omega0 wrote:
Lastly, the reason why Vector's community is better is because you don't play over here.
That made me lol To many egos over here already, his would get crumpled
Spoke to Pharoh when i had just hit 50, he was iintrested in over here but of course the usual, LVLN 
I go onto syntax, roll smoke, lucky to have had 5 or 6 people talking for more than 20 secs lol Vectorites talk so much random drool i lol everytime i'm on <3 Very rarely is there a moment of silence unless, no-ones on..
I hit lvl 50 on syntax the exact same date as a pvp event over there. NO1 turned up. 1 planned for a month after, NO1 turned up. Point proven. Syntaxians don't care as much about pvp as they do about farming zombies rofl
Oh Omega, you forgot, Endo is a stalker and can read your whispers and know exactly where your at and who your with
The idea was good enough. To be true, i don't see the problem about being flagged all the time but when every post like this ends up in "This is Bruce's post" it fails big time.
I don't mind log in on my first character here, actually I already tried to start a faction here, but running all the missions again to get to level 50.... I don't mind giving it another try getting some faction mates over here, but can't promise. Did try it before but they have left the game now.
Saying that syntax is all ego players, well when it comes to server pride I guess the ego is no bigger here then it's on syntax or recursion.
And if Bruce want the last word here, be my guest but please stop to ruin it for the other players here, you are not their ambassador.
MindsweepX
The Black Code
img>I agree, the idea is good. However, the execution is fail. You can't promote a server by talking down to the other servers. It's just poor marketing. As far as egofests are concerned, everyone is proud of their server (and should be!) and will defend it. Calling someone out for that is just calling them human and making yourself no different than they themselves.
If you want to promote Vector, emphasize how it's different and how that can make your experience fun. Don't try to say it's "better" because that's where the fail begins. No server is "better", but all servers are different. Embrace that and use that to pull people in. Don't turn them away with senseless bravado.
Leveling up on Enumerator (and subsequently two more times on Vector) has been a great experience. Not knowing what was waiting for me at a hardline or inbetween mission areas was a great rush and something I relay to others when I promote this server. In turn I've brought quite a few to the darkside.
Omega0 wrote:
Endomorph wrote:
Omega0 wrote:
Endomorph wrote:
Paschendale wrote:
but seriously.. did everyone really have a problem being flagged?
I probably have a combined level total of around 200, and rarely found this to be a problem. During events we had enough patchers (ahh the good old area heals that cured everyone) to offset the Howitzers/Jerks during events. And now there are no events so this isn't a problem.
The only time this was a problem for me was when Oooroyooo chased me from midian all the way to Dannah back in the day... lolNobody has a problem with being flagged, the problem is alot of Vectorites attitudes towards us they make alts on our server every other month people like Macside come and smacktalk, ontop of that on this dying game what does Vector have to offer us that we dont have on our home server?
A hostile enviroment? i'll make a lowbie and run through westview
Vector has better player events, by far, and a better community too, in my opinion. Also, you can't seriously think that running through Westview as a lowbie is anything like being chased by reds on Vector. I have experienced both, and trust me, there's a huge difference.
I've experienced both also, it's called sarcasm and of course in your eyes the community is better, i mean you log onto Syntax put on your perpetual stand around for 10 minutes then logout, You dont even interact with others because alot of us got bored of you alongtime ago.
LOL, there are so many things wrong with this post, where to begin...
First of all, if you don't know how to use sarcasm correctly, then you shouldn't try to use it at all.
Second, when I log onto Syntax, I usually leave way before ten minutes have passed, more like one or two minutes. It's kind of depressing to log onto Syntax. Sometimes I see people PvPing, but there's usually more Zionites flagged than Mechs or Mervs, and I only enjoy PvP when it's challenging.
I can't believe you would pretend to know why I don't interact with others. Actually, I do occasionally interact with people, just not usually in Mara. And what makes you think that people got bored of me? Is it because when I log on, people are usually just standing around like a bunch of zombies? I'm pretty sure it's like that even when I'm not online.
I pretty much only stay logged on if there are people online for me to RP with, or if someone asks me to help with farming, or if there's a player event that looks fun (like this one or this one example). Unfortunately, most of the player events on Syntax don't interest me at all. Vector, on the other hand, has many player events that I enjoy.
Lastly, the reason why Vector's community is better is because you don't play over here.
I dont know how to use Sarcasm correctly? maybe you dont interpret properly.
I think people have been bored of you since your "I'm the greatest MA in history" stint.
And Syntax's community is better because you dont play there anymore
Omega0 wrote:
Endomorph wrote:
The_Bruceter wrote:
Some people over there have a massive chip on their shoulders. They truley think that 1. Their pvp is better 2. They are pvp gods.
All funny from this side. I went there and tried it out but nope, absolutely nothing compared to here. Fair enough a bit faster, odd time a couple of more people. But in the end, it seems to be the same 20 people that flag... lol It gets boring an repetative so fast, none of that 'CHARGE!!!' over there.
We know what we're like and where we're staying.
So much more respect for others over here. There its quite (alot) more trash talking on syntax. They love huddling up and out talk each other. Quite amusing when your smoking ha ha
Who ever claimed to be a pvp god or claim that one server's pvp is better then the others, the answer is nobody.
Wrong.
Mistakes wrote:
The BEST pvp and the best pvpers in this game have always come from syntax and the three servers that built it.
In CR1 it was this server that pioneered the use of dodge ranged character builds and clothes that ultimately lead to the breaking of pve and pvp in the cr1 system. While vector was busy comming up with "logic cannon 2.0 and sneak". lol
In CR2 this server has regularly gone on to stomp the other two servers in every way possible dominating their tournaments and pvp. While vector came up with "logic cannon 2.0 and sneak".
How about you guys come here and learn how to do it right.
-sonofthree
I dont see where SonofThree has stated he's the best PvPer on the game? nobody as an individual has stated it, Sonofthree has given his opinion on an entire server.
The_Bruceter wrote:
Omega0 wrote:
Lastly, the reason why Vector's community is better is because you don't play over here.
Oh Omega, you forgot, Endo is a stalker and can read your whispers and know exactly where your at and who your with
You must like my visits to these boards.
Garu wrote:
I agree, the idea is good. However, the execution is fail. You can't promote a server by talking down to the other servers. It's just poor marketing. As far as egofests are concerned, everyone is proud of their server (and should be!) and will defend it. Calling someone out for that is just calling them human and making yourself no different than they themselves.
If you want to promote Vector, emphasize how it's different and how that can make your experience fun. Don't try to say it's "better" because that's where the fail begins. No server is "better", but all servers are different. Embrace that and use that to pull people in. Don't turn them away with senseless bravado.
Ok! Stop now! Lol...all I'll say is I'll help anyone wanting to come here and be a machine....
Garu i have been stating my points. PvP travels and of course, that waggy thing hanging out your mouth, can lead you into trouble
Mind, tbh i don't have a prob with you (or a vast majority of syntaxians, just the big mouths) so at anytime your on. i suppose i could go on my zion and help you out
Endo, lvl up or drop it.. cause tbh, we just don't care.. Each post is just to aggrivate others, i prefer to do that ingame.
The_Bruceter wrote:
Garu i have been stating my points. PvP travels and of course, that waggy thing hanging out your mouth, can lead you into trouble
Mind, tbh i don't have a prob with you (or a vast majority of syntaxians, just the big mouths) so at anytime your on. i suppose i could go on my zion and help you out
Endo, lvl up or drop it.. cause tbh, we just don't care.. Each post is just to aggrivate others, i prefer to do that ingame.
I'm not going to level up or drop it, because you arent asking, or going about it nicely either.
I'm nice to the nice people, don't need to be to people like you..
The_Bruceter wrote:
Garu i have been stating my points. PvP travels and of course, that waggy thing hanging out your mouth, can lead you into trouble
Don't make me spank you, Brucey. 
Mindsweep, would be a good idea to level up if for nothing more then tournaments and events.
Zion courier event is alot of fun, Thereinwhitten promises a mini tourny every couple weeks, DE throws fight nights and smaller events in between the biggies, Titans coming through with another soon, and Insurgence has been giving it a go lately.
By all means keep Syntax, those are your people we all understand that, even the 2 guys at each others throats, but on your tax' down time maybe you can have some fun.
playdoh wrote:
Mindsweep, would be a good idea to level up if for nothing more then tournaments and events.
I always wanted that, but running around alone :-/ I did start here on vector but left do to the "cheap cq's hunt for lowbies" that was going on. Don't mind a battle but when there are teams out only to do that, i pack my stuff and leave as it's getting boring. Getting more 50's would be more fun to pvp, killing a lowbie imo. for a cheap cq is just boring pvp. It happen's i know hostile server...
Zion courier event is alot of fun, Thereinwhitten promises a mini tourny every couple weeks, DE throws fight nights and smaller events in between the biggies, Titans coming through with another soon, and Insurgence has been giving it a go lately.
Yep, got some real good event's going on here.
By all means keep Syntax, those are your people we all understand that, even the 2 guys at each others throats, but on your tax' down time maybe you can have some fun.
I got a few names on my buddylist, but more on it always welcome.
img>lol It really is amazing how far this petty thing has gone. Regardless of what your "opinion" Maybe. We welcome all new comers. As well as most ppl do on syntax. I have made plenty of online buddies to help, conversate, dance, etc... Since joining. Regardless of organization. Anybody willing to go to vector or syntax if im online send me a tell. I help ya out in what ever way i can.
And FFS plz delete this entire thread already.
<./img>Aye Mind you'll get your odd idiot that will chase down a mish team. When its someone close to your lvl though, its on 
(doesn't happen much now due to lack of lowbies )
People that do that are like the people that will give a lowbie a lug over on syntax, then kill them.
Few newbie 50's from TT that would prob be willing to help lvl people up. I hate missions but i could always do some.
It is alot better to have people on your list on vector. Not everyone trapses through mara when their on. Tend to farm one of the umpteen items scattered about the city. It was easy to find them when it was only 01 and commando halls lol
Mindsweep wrote:
playdoh wrote:
Mindsweep, would be a good idea to level up if for nothing more then tournaments and events.
I always wanted that, but running around alone :-/ I did start here on vector but left do to the "cheap cq's hunt for lowbies" that was going on. Don't mind a battle but when there are teams out only to do that, i pack my stuff and leave as it's getting boring. Getting more 50's would be more fun to pvp, killing a lowbie imo. for a cheap cq is just boring pvp. It happen's i know hostile server...
Zion courier event is alot of fun, Thereinwhitten promises a mini tourny every couple weeks, DE throws fight nights and smaller events in between the biggies, Titans coming through with another soon, and Insurgence has been giving it a go lately.
Yep, got some real good event's going on here.
By all means keep Syntax, those are your people we all understand that, even the 2 guys at each others throats, but on your tax' down time maybe you can have some fun.
I got a few names on my buddylist, but more on it always welcome.
The hunting down lowbies thing is a thing of the past for the most part. When I see a lowbie now of another org I practically bend over backwards to help them, we need all the people we can get I think a good amount of Vectorites have this same state of mind and are always open to have new players come onboard. Besides, that person might make a nice opponent one day.
Besides my philosophy has always been if I'm not specifially PvPing and I'm going about my business I wont attack you unless you attack me first, no matter if your a 50 or a lowbie.
And even then, a total nub lvl 3 attacked me in Uriah the other day, could have easily attacked back but I let him swat at my shield for a while and advised him it wasn't generally a good idea to attack a red lvl 50. He got the message and left after a minute or two
Villemar_MxO wrote:
Mindsweep wrote:
playdoh wrote:
Mindsweep, would be a good idea to level up if for nothing more then tournaments and events.
I always wanted that, but running around alone :-/ I did start here on vector but left do to the "cheap cq's hunt for lowbies" that was going on. Don't mind a battle but when there are teams out only to do that, i pack my stuff and leave as it's getting boring. Getting more 50's would be more fun to pvp, killing a lowbie imo. for a cheap cq is just boring pvp. It happen's i know hostile server...
Zion courier event is alot of fun, Thereinwhitten promises a mini tourny every couple weeks, DE throws fight nights and smaller events in between the biggies, Titans coming through with another soon, and Insurgence has been giving it a go lately.
Yep, got some real good event's going on here.
By all means keep Syntax, those are your people we all understand that, even the 2 guys at each others throats, but on your tax' down time maybe you can have some fun.
I got a few names on my buddylist, but more on it always welcome.
The hunting down lowbies thing is a thing of the past for the most part. When I see a lowbie now of another org I practically bend over backwards to help them, we need all the people we can get
Besides my philosophy has always been if I'm not specifially PvPing and I'm going about my business I wont attack you unless you attack me first, no matter if your a 50 or a lowbie.
And even then, a total nub lvl 3 attacked me in Uriah the other day, could have easily attacked back but I let him swat at my shield for a while and advised him it wasn't generally a good idea to attack a red lvl 50. He got the message and left after a minute or two
ROFL i would have one shotted him with a smile and said, "Welcome to Vector. BTW thats called flagging."
Endomorph wrote:
I dont know how to use Sarcasm correctly? maybe you dont interpret properly.
I think people have been bored of you since your "I'm the greatest MA in history" stint.
And Syntax's community is better because you dont play there anymore
No, you don't know how to use sarcasm correctly. As far as I can tell, you weren't even trying to make a point.
LOL, I never claimed to be the greatest MA, I simply disagreed with you when you said that I wasn't a "worthwhile" MA. And I think a lot of other players, across all three servers, will also disagree with you on that.
Like I said before, I still play on Syntax once in a while, mainly when there's a player event that looks fun. And once I'm done with grad school, I'll be spending a lot more time there. On the other hand, I'm pretty sure I have never seen you on Vector. Therefore, Vector's better.
Actually, I kind of wish you would level up on Vector, just so that I would have the chance to hunt you down.
Endomorph wrote:
Omega0 wrote:
Endomorph wrote:
The_Bruceter wrote:
Some people over there have a massive chip on their shoulders. They truley think that 1. Their pvp is better 2. They are pvp gods.
All funny from this side. I went there and tried it out but nope, absolutely nothing compared to here. Fair enough a bit faster, odd time a couple of more people. But in the end, it seems to be the same 20 people that flag... lol It gets boring an repetative so fast, none of that 'CHARGE!!!' over there.
We know what we're like and where we're staying.
So much more respect for others over here. There its quite (alot) more trash talking on syntax. They love huddling up and out talk each other. Quite amusing when your smoking ha ha
Who ever claimed to be a pvp god or claim that one server's pvp is better then the others, the answer is nobody.
Wrong.
Mistakes wrote:
The BEST pvp and the best pvpers in this game have always come from syntax and the three servers that built it.
In CR1 it was this server that pioneered the use of dodge ranged character builds and clothes that ultimately lead to the breaking of pve and pvp in the cr1 system. While vector was busy comming up with "logic cannon 2.0 and sneak". lol
In CR2 this server has regularly gone on to stomp the other two servers in every way possible dominating their tournaments and pvp. While vector came up with "logic cannon 2.0 and sneak".
How about you guys come here and learn how to do it right.
-sonofthree
I dont see where SonofThree has stated he's the best PvPer on the game? nobody as an individual has stated it, Sonofthree has given his opinion on an entire server.
Pay attention.
Well done everyone... /claphands
looks as though everyone is still being there self, except this time we've gone international...
squabaling, wah wah wah.. Can you all stop crying please.. its not nice seeing full grown men cry about something so small, its asif you guys actually care about what others think of you, or your server.. who gives a damm anyway... only some sad dude with nothing to do all day cares about stuff like that.. i've been here since release too and i don't care so you shouldn't either, now quit crying guys settle this with a /shakehands and let that be the end of it.. its easy enough.. don't get heated, take a chill pill, smoke a spliff, have a drink or have a nice soak in the bath so you all calm the hell down 
jeez, some people never learn.. this isn't a debate, its a couple of, well i say a couple... serveral people all having digs at each other making us all look bad.. you imagine new players looking at these threads, they'd turn the other way.. if thats what you want then so be it, carry on, but if this carries on i won't be apart of it, i'll leave myself.
Garu wrote:
I agree, the idea is good. However, the execution is fail. You can't promote a server by talking down to the other servers. It's just poor marketing. As far as egofests are concerned, everyone is proud of their server (and should be!) and will defend it. Calling someone out for that is just calling them human and making yourself no different than they themselves.
If you want to promote Vector, emphasize how it's different and how that can make your experience fun. Don't try to say it's "better" because that's where the fail begins. No server is "better", but all servers are different. Embrace that and use that to pull people in. Don't turn them away with senseless bravado.
That's exactly what Rascal did in the Syntax forum. He wasn't talking down to anyone, and he even offered to help anyone who decided to go Merv on Vector. It's a shame that some of the people on Syntax cannot give the same respect that they receive.
