Martial Arts Dueling League

Where: Downtown, Government Building (Park East Northwest)

When: Saturday, February 21st 5:00 PM MCT (8:00 EST)

To enter send Aeolon92 an email or whisper in-game, the fee to enter is 3,000,000 mil $information, prize for first is 15 mil, prize for second is 10 mil.

Idalia and me decided that Recursion needs a good MA tourney again where people can join and participate for fun.

This is my first time doing this so it may be a bit unorganized the first time, but I promise to try my best, and make this a regular thing. Below are some of the rules, they may be subject to change, and new ones may be added. Hosted by Idalia and Aeolon92

Rules:

-No sleepwalker items, Panacea, Health Pill(s)/Booster(s), Tactic Booster(s),Mother Coat or Morbius.

-No Hybrid loadouts (MA+ Patcher, etc.)

-No "serious" trash talking, joking is fine

-Must die before a match

-Match will be best out of 5. Three wins is win by default.

-Have fun!

-Aeolon

beat me to it

i was thinking the same thing the other day whilst i was with wanat007 IRL

il be entering dude see how it goes.

good luck man

AltDimension wrote:

Cool stuff, thats great if your looking at running these weekly. I should be able to make it, however can I suggest a couple more rules?

- No rolling out of duels.
- No shield.
- Stay within range of your oppenent before a duel.

Also you might want to consider letting people use mobius code? just because its available to everyone and has a long reuse timer.

I don't have a problem with Mobius Code, you are right - most people do have it by now.

As for the other stuff, it usually goes without saying for those of us who duel with MA frequently; but yes, they will be added to the list of rules as well. 

How about we see real skill? Which means no special clothing allowed. Only enhanced, armoured or (in this case uselss) shielded (which 99% of all MAs nowadays will undoubtly already have problems with, especially with their IS consumption). If we, on top of that eliminate tactic switching (experienced MAs already know the difference in damage of all MA abilities on speed, power and grab on the different LOs (KungfuGM, KarateGM and AikidoGM; so noticing if someone used tactic switch wouldn't be 100% but it's recognizable) then we'll really see who CAN do MA seriously and who can't.

But then again, now MAs only consist of tactic switchers (over 50% grab/power) and IS regen hungry people so I doubt anybody would ever consider doing a tourney after these rules.

Alright thanks for the extra rules Alt, and yeah, I guess mobius should be allowed.

That's a good idea Godgiver, maybe we can make a special tourney like this one day, would be cool.

what about ninja items they ok?

and nother rule u might want is

-no changing clothes during duels

Am I allowed to participate in this if I'm level 49?

Yes, Bout time something good happened on recursion xD

ill be there  as XlordjutX

Im not going to be able to make it   my computer is out until at least monday afternoon and this one can't handle mxo.  Good luck to everyone!

CraftyZee wrote:

what about ninja items they ok?

and nother rule u might want is

-no changing clothes during duels

You DO know that those two would be naturally exclusive, if we enforced that rule, right? Changing clothing under closed trenches is easy and unrecognizable. A GI is a "closed trench" and thus would make the rule you want unenforceable.

GoDGiVeR wrote:

CraftyZee wrote:

what about ninja items they ok?

and nother rule u might want is

-no changing clothes during duels

You DO know that those two would be naturally exclusive, if we enforced that rule, right? Changing clothing under closed trenches is easy and unrecognizable. A GI is a "closed trench" and thus would make the rule you want unenforceable.

Do you want another thread for all this crazy no clothed dueling?

Also might want to ban archive rewards, just becuase it makes the effect of Machine Gun Fists useless.

As does Compel Close Combat, Prison Mastery, Intensify Damage, and whatever.

If people want to waste their memory space or spend their time to farm a particular clothing item or ability to adapt a certain tactic against someone else's tactic it should be allowed.

I was able to catch the end of this tonight. Great fights had by all. The weather became a little poor towards the end, though.

Atlhough, I hope I will be able to catch future iterations of this event.

I missed this thread how!?

Oh well, if it happens again next week, I'll take part.

Good fights by all, thanks to everyone who participated; it was a great turnout!

And yes Goli, it will happen again next week.    Hope to see you there!

Results for this week:

Aeolon92 - 1st

Idalia - 2cnd

Stanislava - 3rd

Thank you all for coming, it was fun and great to duel different people again

I'll definetely do it again next week

How many people showed?

This weeks tourney will be held on Friday February 27th, do to some RL time conflictions (sorry all), but I think it should be fine after this week, again sorry. Same time, this time in the "Brown Field" in Kaede.

Hope to see you all.

((Alt is right, 12 contestants))

maybe you should create a table like the previous fnt's by th? or its not really a dueling league more just series of random tournements and even so a nice table of matchs results and maybe some slight comments on the match ups, predictions etc im sure if you look back in the events thread u can find out of th's post to get some ideas from as it was very sucessfull, im not saying copy it but maybe make a table like it so we can see peoples stats at least this is just an idea ofcourse

Vosiler wrote:

maybe you should create a table like the previous fnt's by th? or its not really a dueling league more just series of random tournements and even so a nice table of matchs results and maybe some slight comments on the match ups, predictions etc im sure if you look back in the events thread u can find out of th's post to get some ideas from as it was very sucessfull, im not saying copy it but maybe make a table like it so we can see peoples stats at least this is just an idea ofcourse

If there is enough interest to keep this going on a weekly basis, and if people care enough to see some form of table, then sure, something could be created.  Personally however, it is not my style to predict who may win as TH did, as I feel it deters some people from coming out and participating.  If other people wish to place bets at the tournament, then that could be interesting...but this 'league' or random tournaments as you put it, came about because quite simply there are a lot of us out there who love to duel, and just enjoy getting together to hang out and beat each other up .  I'm more interested in getting people together as a community regardless of org or faction; giving people a reason to log in each week (whether to fight or to help people farm the gear they would like to get to use in the matches), which to be honest, is the main goal i think.   

So we will see how it goes....some good suggestions tho, any and all are welcome.  If this continues, we can expand on these ideas.

And if there is enough interest in these weekly tournaments, the 'quick and the dead' gunner tournaments will be coming back as well

well all i was pointing out is the title of this thread is "Martial Arts Dueling League" i dont see a league its more random tournements if its a league it should have a league table im not sure where your both from im guessing usa? but this isent a league, and from your last post it sounds more like you want a "group up in a area and do stuff" which is fine but maybe it should have been more clear in the origonal post?


edit

or atleast maybe a record of the fights etc so who entered who beat who scores etc

not saying its not a good idea qbert but id like to see scores of people who entered etc so how many people scores of there duels etc its not that much to ask tbh and it was all sujections on imporving it

Aeolon92 wrote:

This weeks tourney will be held on Friday February 27th, do to some RL time conflictions (sorry all), but I think it should be fine after this week, again sorry. Same time, this time in the "Brown Field" in Kaede.

Hope to see you all.

Can't make it today.

Today? Bah.

Goligoth wrote:

Today? Bah.

you need to check the fourms more lol

Vosiler wrote:

Goligoth wrote:

Today? Bah.

you need to check the fourms more lol

I do. Just not these forums

Isn't anyone going to talk about the results of the second tournament?

Omega0 wrote:

Isn't anyone going to talk about the results of the second tournament?

I lost in the first round to GQubed, but not before doing this...

Booya!

Not sure who won though.

Final was GQubed vs myself. Was nice to have the chance to duel; not many do these days.

Aeolon has all the results of the matches, he should be posting them later on today.

But the top three for this week were:

8ayamos - 1st

GQubed - 2cnd

Delicho - 3rd

Next week, we will try to start things a little earlier to make it easier for the UK people.  Location and exact time should be up by this coming Wednesday.  Good fights by all, was great to see so many people there! 

No assassins mask rule next time plz

indeed, anyone else wondering whats hidden under bays "painted" hotbar? interesting

The mask has no melee accuracy or defense, and no resistance. All it granted was some IS, health, and a little regen; yet it required an entire restructuring of the outfit so as not to have 140 resist. It only grants 150 HP and 10 IS more than a Tiger Master's Gi, which is what I normally use. No fight came down to 150 health or 10 IS that I can remember. But aren't you glad you have something to blame? Jeez it was a 4 bracket tourney and 2 of my opponents were the same person. Why is it worth moaning over?

And fyi it's this:

OMG, Uber hacks and mask. LAWL

Bayamos wrote:

The mask has no melee accuracy or defense, and no resistance. All it granted was some IS, health, and a little regen; yet it required an entire restructuring of the outfit so as not to have 140 resist. It only grants 150 HP and 10 IS more than a Tiger Master's Gi, which is what I normally use. No fight came down to 150 health or 10 IS that I can remember. But aren't you glad you have something to blame? Jeez it was a 4 bracket tourney and 2 of my opponents were the same person. Why is it worth moaning over?

And fyi it's this:

with the mask on you have same hp regen as sleepwalkers pants (i was watching peoples regen norm 5/sec yours was about 9/sec sleepwalkers is around 9/10/sec

also did u get beat without your mask they changed?

either way its an unfair advantage as other people cant obtain it much like the zion hardware requlizition gq has thats untracable unless mgf removes it

will just have to see what the hosts decide

and yfi your hotbar shouldent have anything to hide unless you still use macros in duels to change clothes undertrench when you go block hand >?<

Hey Bay, can you post your hotbar so I can see what abilties and order you use your abilities in. 

That way I can use a different ability to out roll you and know what ones wont be used against me and WINZ.

Yes, the mask has the same HP regen as the sleepwalker pants because counting and looking up stats are the same.

It also has +100 combat tatics, 50% chance for invulnerability, 15% chance of flying, and 100% to cause envy.

An events rules need to be made and stuck with 100% BEFORE the event. Wasting a hour to set and change rules shows amatuer hosting.

Dude, it was a small tourney. Four rounds to the finals. Only had 3 opponents: SC, Idalia, SC again, GQ. Winning or losing doesn't mean crap.

Anyways:

a) You're correct, the regen is close. Seraphims have 20% regen, Mask has 20% HP regen -> 40% regen. Put on Bolster health with 40% HP regen, then EOC and watch your regen; it's 7-8 per second.

Sadly I don't have SW jeans on Recursion, but WM lenses + pecks + graywolf + seraphims = 60%. Put those on and get EOC. You get 9-10 heal per second.

The thing is, WM lenses are about 6-7 per second. It's not *that* much more. And the mask had no resistance so it was essentially just a tiny bit more regen.

But ummm what does regen matter? It doesn't have an effect on the rolls. I really don't see what you're getting at here. It's not like I was sitting on block and tanking.

b) You didn't even fight me. You didn't even make the finals. What is it to you what I wore?

c) The mask is already outlawed for all future ones of these, so this, like, matters, bro.

d) Re: hotbar. How can that make any sense? Many of us prefer to figure our own strategies out rather than being taught how2play by el Faction Leader (god of MA). If I have a particular tactic that I've developed, or a certain combo of moves I use or a progression or whatever, not everyone's gonna pick up on that. The hotbar also gives a pretty good picture of what abilities someone has loaded, providing the entry point to figuring out the loadout and a strategy to counter it. MA duels are essentially rock paper scissors, why would I shout I AM A ROCK?

Really, I see all this complaining about masks and Zion Hardware and archive rewards and this and that... not necessary. ZHF didn't hinder me from killing GQ, just like the mask didn't stop him from getting me in our first fight. Archive rewards are farmable, and a good strategy against MGF. No shields, no free attacks, no rolling out, seems like it's just "no plz plz plz don't make me adapt to something new!" Gets stale.

Bayamos wrote:

Dude, it was a small tourney. Four rounds to the finals. Only had 3 opponents: SC, Idalia, SC again, GQ. Winning or losing doesn't mean crap.

Anyways:

a) You're correct, the regen is close. Seraphims have 20% regen, Mask has 20% HP regen -> 40% regen. Put on Bolster health with 40% HP regen, then EOC and watch your regen; it's 7-8 per second.

Sadly I don't have SW jeans on Recursion, but WM lenses + pecks + graywolf + seraphims = 60%. Put those on and get EOC. You get 9-10 heal per second.

The thing is, WM lenses are about 6-7 per second. It's not *that* much more. And the mask had no resistance so it was essentially just a tiny bit more regen.

But ummm what does regen matter? It doesn't have an effect on the rolls. I really don't see what you're getting at here. It's not like I was sitting on block and tanking.

b) You didn't even fight me. You didn't even make the finals. What is it to you what I wore?

c) The mask is already outlawed for all future ones of these, so this, like, matters, bro.

d) Re: hotbar. How can that make any sense? Many of us prefer to figure our own strategies out rather than being taught how2play by el Faction Leader (god of MA). If I have a particular tactic that I've developed, or a certain combo of moves I use or a progression or whatever, not everyone's gonna pick up on that. The hotbar also gives a pretty good picture of what abilities someone has loaded, providing the entry point to figuring out the loadout and a strategy to counter it. MA duels are essentially rock paper scissors, why would I shout I AM A ROCK?

Really, I see all this complaining about masks and Zion Hardware and archive rewards and this and that... not necessary. ZHF didn't hinder me from killing GQ, just like the mask didn't stop him from getting me in our first fight. Archive rewards are farmable, and a good strategy against MGF. No shields, no free attacks, no rolling out, seems like it's just "no plz plz plz don't make me adapt to something new!" Gets stale.

bay has a point here actually.

my hotbar is setup just for my tactics but i dont mind showing mine but some people dont like to show theres. i think pretty much everyone has there own tactics/combos they like to use. as for what was said about macros i use macros in interlock but they dont change clothes. bayamos is a good ma anyway so grats to him for winning.

its dosent matter dident cost me anything i had my fee paid just i know u were "asked" not to wear the mask before the tourney started then u went 1-0 down to sc and decided to wear it find that a bit funny is all have to see how u do without it next week.

anyway was a ok tourney bit late for me if im honest was to tired to care about fighting lol i did see alot of people there thou was a very nice turnout.

and just a fyi for any of the ma's dueling to watch there oppsitions health regan its very easy to tell if they switch to sleepwalkers mid duel and dont be afraid to call it if you see it. i did notice someone do it during the tourney but they still lost so wasent worth the argument.

whens the next tourney this Sat?

Funny how the ones who didn't fight Bay are the ones who are complaining, and the one who did fight him and lost the finals already moved on with his life. Bay is an exceptional MA, with and without the mask. Past tournaments has confirmed that.

Anyway, I would of won if it wasn't for GQ's metal back door plate.

Bayamos wrote:

Anyways:

a) You're correct, the regen is close. Seraphims have 20% regen, Mask has 20% HP regen -> 40% regen. Put on Bolster health with 40% HP regen, then EOC and watch your regen; it's 7-8 per second.

EOC?

Goligoth wrote:

Funny how the ones who didn't fight Bay are the ones who are complaining, and the one who did fight him and lost the finals already moved on with his life. Bay is an exceptional MA, with and without the mask. Past tournaments has confirmed that.

Anyway, I would of won if it wasn't for GQ's metal back door plate.

LOL maybe because the one who was in the final uses zion hardware req? witch is a reward that shouldent be allowed but untracable ?

Vosiler wrote:

Goligoth wrote:

Funny how the ones who didn't fight Bay are the ones who are complaining, and the one who did fight him and lost the finals already moved on with his life. Bay is an exceptional MA, with and without the mask. Past tournaments has confirmed that.

Anyway, I would of won if it wasn't for GQ's metal back door plate.

LOL maybe because the one who was in the final uses zion hardware req?

1. Last time I checked it wasn't against the rules

2. LOL I thought most people had it by now

OMG seriousely? Goli I think we brought some dramaz back to recursion, go tell ChloeAnne.

Since the day the Assassin Masks were given out they have caused envy and curiosity. 8ayamos only wore it because he knew that some people would flip out... so even by not fighting you, he was in your head. Tactics, it's all about tactics. I am not running any tournaments but if I did I would allow the mask, swords RSI captures and whatever.

If someone wins with sploits... umm yay for them? I was shocked to do as well as I did (apparently thanks to my ZHR) which, until Vos asked me about I had totally forgotten lol. Anyways, winners will change each week, we will all adapt to one another over time and things will even out. If you let dals and Aeo do their thing, you should be thanking them or running your own.... or both.

Love
GQ

PS you better come to the next one 8ay, you never give me a second chance

not either of you who brought it back unless u paid for my sub?

drama follows me make the event earlier was like 2am before i got to fight and if im honest im not that sharp at 2am

GQubed wrote:

OMG seriousely? Goli I think we brought some dramaz back to recursion, go tell ChloeAnne.

Since the day the Assassin Masks were given out they have caused envy and curiosity. 8ayamos only wore it because he knew that some people would flip out... so even by not fighting you, he was in your head. Tactics, it's all about tactics. I am not running any tournaments but if I did I would allow the mask, swords RSI captures and whatever.

If someone wins with sploits... umm yay for them? I was shocked to do as well as I did (apparently thanks to my ZHR) which, until Vos asked me about I had totally forgotten lol. Anyways, winners will change each week, we will all adapt to one another over time and things will even out. If you let dals and Aeo do their thing, you should be thanking them or running your own.... or both.

Love
GQ

PS you better come to the next one 8ay, you never give me a second chance

oh btw im not sure a mach is allowed a zhr you should have the mach version no? zhr is res merv is defence im not sure what mach is ? and dw even in fnt everyone knew u used it dosent bother me tbh but with imo an unfair advantage bay won woopi grats see how he does without it