22 posts · 2008-10-15 17:03:41 to 2008-10-18 05:59:49
The BSP you get from Sati's playground really need a better purity stability then they have today. I only got mine for 3 day's and they broke two times already. I used them for like an ½ hour or less and they break. 1 purity point left now. BSP's stability is like the Meason riffles from 01, they break really fast. I don't know if anyone else had the same experience with the smg's, but i think the lifetime for the SMG's is to small.
Anyone else having the same problems?
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I seem to remember reading a similar thread about a Patchers Headgear decaying fast too once and a Dev (dont remember who) gave an explanation of how decay works. It has something to do with having to strip down your RSI when going through hardlines / being teleported. The more active buffs you have on the more the chance of decay i believe as you are stripping more from the RSI.
Also the decay rate is supposed to be selected randomly. Im not sure if this has been changed or not.
Ill dig out the Dev reply and stick it up for you all.
All of the new gear seems to decay quite rapidly. My dana, GI and pants are all sitting at half a dot with the dana being the fastest in like a 1 hour pvp sessionall of mine lost one-half dot so far, but it's stayed like that ever since, so I can't complain there.
How about this (might get shot down for this thought)There are always tradeoffs, obviously if you want to farm the gear to better yourself then thats your prerogative but I don't think it's fair to the people who don't have the time to spend 3-4 hours to farm the greatest gear while those who have can just pay a little bit of money to keep the item for an infinite amount of time. Of course the last item I ever farmed was the Seraphims and back then we could get 2 teams of 6 to annihalate the box in 1 go so I'm going to be quite biased on the matter but I don't think it's fair on the playerbase who don't have the time to aquire these items especially when some of the items allow insane amounts of HP regen and other powerful buffs.
Make a collector in the 4 areas. That collectors sole function is to allow players to trade in, for example, the Bleeding Sleepwalker Phantams that lost stability for new ones. Maybe throw in some money in the trade.
That way the people who spent so much time and effort in getting this gear can PvP or run missions with it for as long and much as they like. Starting to break? Visit the collector, trade in the gear and you get a shiny new item.
This can be done for the Sati's gear, SSR gear, Elite Commando Gear, etc. etc. Just one collector offering it all.
Just a thought.
The Sleepwalker submachine guns have a slightly higher than normal decay rate. This is because their combination of buffs is higher than normally allowed for a level 50 enhanced weapon, and I didn't want to give subgunners a balance boost over other gunmen.I believe that Enhanced Level 50 Submachines guns that have a chance to cause Daze have much more power than Submachine guns that cause you to lower someone else's Inner Strength Regen Rate. If you can daze someone and have that Daze last for 10 seconds instead of the normal 5, you give everyone around you a longer chance of being able to cast Dazed State Specials which would kill the person very easily. When you reduce someone's Inner Strength Regen Rate by 10% for 10 Seconds, you cause their Inner Strength Regen Rate to go down by about .5 Inner Strength per second. This means that you are actually only taking away 5 Inner Strength from them, which is not enough Inner Strength to even cast any ability.
I had intended to mention the decay in the details text for them, which I see that I forgot to do, so I'll have to add that. I'm also going to have the collectors mention it in the trade window. Svanhild's shoes and dress from the Valkyrja quest have a similarly increased decay rate, but for those I did remember to mention it in the two messages.
All other items added recently have the standard decay rate.
Seymour| wrote:I feel that anything you have to farm for should last a lot longer than an item that you can just code whenever you want to in a minute.Rarebit wrote:The Sleepwalker submachine guns have a slightly higher than normal decay rate. This is because their combination of buffs is higher than normally allowed for a level 50 enhanced weapon, and I didn't want to give subgunners a balance boost over other gunmen.I believe that Enhanced Level 50 Submachines guns that have a chance to cause Daze have much more power than Submachine guns that cause you to lower someone else's Inner Strength Regen Rate. If you can daze someone and have that Daze last for 10 seconds instead of the normal 5, you give everyone around you a longer chance of being able to cast Dazed State Specials which would kill the person very easily. When you reduce someone's Inner Strength Regen Rate by 10% for 10 Seconds, you cause their Inner Strength Regen Rate to go down by about .5 Inner Strength per second. This means that you are actually only taking away 5 Inner Strength from them, which is not enough Inner Strength to even cast any ability.
I had intended to mention the decay in the details text for them, which I see that I forgot to do, so I'll have to add that. I'm also going to have the collectors mention it in the trade window. Svanhild's shoes and dress from the Valkyrja quest have a similarly increased decay rate, but for those I did remember to mention it in the two messages.
All other items added recently have the standard decay rate.The point in this thread is; that you farm an item and use time and around 5-10 mill to get it. And if you only can use it for around 3 hours max, then i guess a lot ppl. will not farm it anymore. I stick to the normal smg's now and glamours. I just can't see the point in creating a item that only will last for a very short time and has a short living time. That's just my opinion.
GoDGiVeR wrote:I don't think they are heavily overpowered, but if a Dev (such as yourself) acknowledges that they are, maybe some action should be taken. Obviously 15% is an irregularly high bonus for a gun, and maybe one way to help balance things out would be to bring their DPS down to 11. But, this probably won't be necessary unless Gunmen take over the Matrix.Rarebit wrote:I'm well aware that Clamors are overpowered...but I don't think they're so overpowered that the benefit of nerfing them would outweigh the upset it would cause to those who've become used to them as they are.The Sleepwalker submachine guns have a slightly higher than normal decay rate. This is because their combination of buffs is higher than normally allowed for a level 50 enhanced weapon, and I didn't want to give subgunners a balance boost over other gunmen.
*aherm* (see sidenote)
Rarebit wrote:The problem isn't the DPS, it's that the high 15% chance to stun is greatly emphasised by the short resue timer (2.5 seconds). A 10% chance is more than enough on the SMGs (still 40% chance of stun in 10 seconds), while a 15% chance on the Bedlams would make things better for that too (would then have a 37.5% chance to blind in 10 seconds or 45% in 3 shots (12 seconds), currently is lower than 30%).GoDGiVeR wrote:I don't think they are heavily overpowered, but if a Dev (such as yourself) acknowledges that they are, maybe some action should be taken. Obviously 15% is an irregularly high bonus for a gun, and maybe one way to help balance things out would be to bring their DPS down to 11. But, this probably won't be necessary unless Gunmen take over the Matrix.Rarebit wrote:I'm well aware that Clamors are overpowered...but I don't think they're so overpowered that the benefit of nerfing them would outweigh the upset it would cause to those who've become used to them as they are.The Sleepwalker submachine guns have a slightly higher than normal decay rate. This is because their combination of buffs is higher than normally allowed for a level 50 enhanced weapon, and I didn't want to give subgunners a balance boost over other gunmen.
*aherm* (see sidenote)
Svanhild's shoes and dress from the Valkyrja quest have a similarly increased decay rate, but for those I did remember to mention it in the two messages.
All other items added recently have the standard decay rate.
I didn't bother farming for the SMG's but I have to agree that it's quite a farm for something that breaks so easily. What I'm curious about is why the gold dress and shoes have an increased decay rate. Not being buffed means that they would not normally be used in combat and in most cases would only be worn to parties or other such social events.
So why increase their decay when they'd rarely be involved with the decay check system for clothing? I realise that increased or not, it doesn't really make a difference but as I said, I was curious as to the reasoning for that decision.
I can understand the reason for slightly increased decay for the SMGs, but it sounds like the decay rate is either too high, or a lot of people have been really unlucky with the decay check system lately.
