24 posts · 2008-10-15 03:05:58 to 2008-12-29 05:27:51
hey all..
I have loaded kung fu whole tree and karate up to that special...dont remember now cuz iam at work..Ki kick or something..anyway..
Iam looking for some tips on a good roll attack..
I tried a few cycles but they dont just work togheter...
i start whit sky high and then machine fist combo but after that the timer wont click whit the other abilitys...
So if u guys have a idea post some plz...
So far it is:
sky high kick>machine fist combo>i dont know the rest 
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Try using some low level attacks aswell.Uh, why? Yeah, let me waste anywhere from 25-45 IS for 5 DPS and a 3 second blind (only low level state). He wants to know combos, wasting IS for a quick roll is stupid.
Low level attacks into combos. <_<It's stupid because it's a waste of IS.
It is not stupid. Sometimes you need a quick roll if you want a higher chance to hit your next move.
for me at least... skyhigh kick is probably the best way to start a combo because it normally hits, then i use misdirect punch or extreme falling kick and hope for a stunPasch, we allknow you can only get that combo backwards.
KevinX wrote:Low level attacks into combos. <_<It's stupid because it's a waste of IS.
It is not stupid. Sometimes you need a quick roll if you want a higher chance to hit your next move.
DPS:IS > ISPS
KanoR wrote:You seem to be really good at only reading single posts.KevinX wrote:Low level attacks into combos. <_<It's stupid because it's a waste of IS.
It is not stupid. Sometimes you need a quick roll if you want a higher chance to hit your next move.
DPS:IS > IS
It's not stupid at all. Damage may be essential, but in the times of Tactic Switching, it does not matter too much. For instance the low level attack "Overhandsmash" can be pretty handy because of it's debuffs. Guard Breaker is handy as well if you're nearly out of IS (still does 36 DPS and debuffs their def). It depends on the situation. DPS is NOT > IS. Strategy wins over mindless spamming, which apparently is what you prefer.
Apropos: We have a whole lot of IS regen clothing these days. Worrying about IS is not SO essential anymore. Try fighting with ANY IS clothing on, though, you'll feel the difference.
btw i forgot to say somethings...
This is in pvp fight iam looking for a good roll..
And iam lvl 50
But i think i got one now...
iam gonna use it for now and c if it works nicely but iam still open for more good suggestions...
Thx for the reply so far
I've never said I just spam for DPS.I said "which you apparently prefer", you made no suggestion (in contrast actually) whatsoever (until you last post) to make someone think otherwise.
You seem to be really good at only reading single posts.Apparently I was still right, it seems. Keke
Using low DPS abs is completely pointless in PvE grind. This is not a PvP discussion.
We're going back about 2 an a half years ago since I was MA so it might be out of date but I used to useThat combo is not an option, because of Wrist Throw, it will drain your IS like nothing. You'd better be off with EFK after sky-high. If you want your opponent unable to do anything, use Suicidal Butterfly (Confused) or Punch Reversal Catch Slam (<-- PRCS is also a drain on IS, but hits more easily and costs less, plus it's 100% sure to powerless).
Sky High Sidekick --> Wrist Throw --> Machine Gun Fist --> Sidekick Combo --> Repeat
(Melee damage resistance debuff) (High damage + high chance on stun) (Chance to remove self buff) (Damage attack for linking)
So this allowed for constant special attacks because the timers work so that if you use a main tree ability all the other main tree abilities will stop working but you can still use all the branch ability's.
Denary wrote:We're going back about 2 an a half years ago since I was MA so it might be out of date but I used to useThat combo is not an option, because of Wrist Throw, it will drain your IS like nothing. You'd better be off with EFK after sky-high. If you want your opponent unable to do anything, use Suicidal Butterfly (Confused) or Punch Reversal Catch Slam (<-- PRCS is also a drain on IS, but hits more easily and costs less, plus it's 100% sure to powerless).
Sky High Sidekick --> Wrist Throw --> Machine Gun Fist --> Sidekick Combo --> Repeat
(Melee damage resistance debuff) (High damage + high chance on stun) (Chance to remove self buff) (Damage attack for linking)
So this allowed for constant special attacks because the timers work so that if you use a main tree ability all the other main tree abilities will stop working but you can still use all the branch ability's.
GoDGiVeR wrote:
Denary wrote:We're going back about 2 an a half years ago since I was MA so it might be out of date but I used to useThat combo is not an option, because of Wrist Throw, it will drain your IS like nothing. You'd better be off with EFK after sky-high. If you want your opponent unable to do anything, use Suicidal Butterfly (Confused) or Punch Reversal Catch Slam (<-- PRCS is also a drain on IS, but hits more easily and costs less, plus it's 100% sure to powerless).
Sky High Sidekick --> Wrist Throw --> Machine Gun Fist --> Sidekick Combo --> Repeat
(Melee damage resistance debuff) (High damage + high chance on stun) (Chance to remove self buff) (Damage attack for linking)
So this allowed for constant special attacks because the timers work so that if you use a main tree ability all the other main tree abilities will stop working but you can still use all the branch ability's.
Oh I dunno it used to get me at least 700-800+ damage on someone with high Melee resist.
It's the same as getting a level 20 state special in damage so I never thought it was a waste of IS, unless it missed of course
my favorite recently is:
punch slam -> sky high -> EFK -> machine gun fist-> maybe butterfly
using martial arts expertise either right before sky high or right after which should last you for 3 moves if your lucky.
that combo has beaten my dreadful nemisis the patcher hybrid
also its real nice if you get a dazed somewhere in there especially after efk cause poeple will want to heal after that massive damage a wooden dummy or dim mak with let you finish them off with ease.
also I prefer to use aikido with speed on for this, but thats just me.
o ya forgot maki in there you can replace that with punch slam or if the combo gets interupted somewhere to hopefully get you back on the offensive.
Tbh, i usually wait for states but sometimes i go crazy anyways this is usualy what i do
Tomo Nage --> Guard Breaker --> Sky-high --> Sidekick
Ki Charged Foot --> Ki charged Punch
if im failing a lot of rolls like grabs n that i usually do a quick sidekick combo and then serene karate grab
O: i just revealed mah tactix
oops nvm, just forget about teh aikido bit ^^
I've been using Sky High > EFK since launch of CR2.0, so nowadays I use: Suicidal butterfly (Stops them switching tactics for 1 round, and if you know what tactic they are on, you are sure to hit the next ability) > Sky High (Lowers Resistance) > Iron Guard (Raises Melee and Ballistic defense) > Extreme Falling Kick (Finishing them off ^.-)
If that chain fails, I'll use Sidekick Combo > Sky High > Suicidal Butterfly > Machine Gun fist > Overhand Smash > Extreme Falling kick
I always throw in Machine Gun fist to take off there title buffs and hypers
My main tree is aikido so there ain't really many combos so i'v touched down into kung fu. Tried having karate aswell but going between the 3 trees seems to make me miss more.
Overhead and Iron Guard are very useful. I tend to use them to the follow up with either a Maki (good chance at lowering their acc) or efk. Using prowess between this combo can lead to really good damage and if you can, hit with an mgf after.
If its SW pants, no point really going for combos (well apart from the sky high one) cause by the time you've got them down to half - quarter health, you're out of IS so can't get the rest down. States tend to win.
The_Bruceter wrote:
If its SW pants, no point really going for combos (well apart from the sky high one) cause by the time you've got them down to half - quarter health, you're out of IS so can't get the rest down. States tend to win.
not true If I'm lucky my long string of combos will kill them when I have about 30 IS left :]
Zeac wrote:
The_Bruceter wrote:
If its SW pants, no point really going for combos (well apart from the sky high one) cause by the time you've got them down to half - quarter health, you're out of IS so can't get the rest down. States tend to win.
not true If I'm lucky my long string of combos will kill them when I have about 30 IS left :]
Long string of combos = spamming. Spamming is easily solved by Serne Calm and block, then your the one without the IS.
I'v noticed people v SW, only time they can actually do substantial damage is by spamming sky high or of course, states.