Loose Threads in the Storyline

ShiXinFeng · 10/09/2008 12:15:13

So I did a search and cannot find anything on this. Does a thread already exist that catalogues and discusses all the unsolved and unfinished stuff from the storyline?

Here is a list from the posts in this thread so far. I'll keep it updated as often as anyone wants to post something.

Neo's Remains
Sarah Edmontons
Morpheus: Dead or Alive?
Smith Virus Resurgence
The Trainman's fate
The Kid's killcode
Gemaskeerd's true fate
Trinity's cranial jack attachment
Justice for Toorima's many murders
The Cheat Code Vials true fate
The two frags the Oracle gave EPN and Cyphs
Why the Oracle allowed to herself to be killed
Why Sati is so special

GamiSB · 10/09/2008 12:19:18

ShiXinFeng wrote:

So I did a search and cannot find anything on this. Does a thread already exist that catalogues and discusses all the unsolved and unfinished stuff from the storyline?
An example of such would be the meaning of the codes in the details of the Morpheus Sim.

The details didn't have any meaning they were just fragments from the General's network.

Sarah Edmontons
The thing in Trinity's neck the Assassin saw
Morpheus Death
Neo's body
The two frags the Oracle gave EPN and Cyphs
Why the Oracle killed herself
Why Sati is so special

That's all I got atm.

KanoR · 10/09/2008 12:29:21

RSI Frags.

GamiSB · 10/09/2008 12:36:12

KanoR wrote:

RSI Frags.

The first set was used to recompile Neo's RSI to keep the General from useing them for some form of MAtrix domination or whatever. They were Neo's final thoughts before he "died"
The second set was used to identify Vashuo's killer Torima.

Othinn1 · 10/09/2008 13:22:21

ShiXinFeng wrote:

So I did a search and cannot find anything on this. Does a thread already exist that catalogues and discusses all the unsolved and unfinished stuff from the storyline?
An example of such would be the meaning of the codes in the details of the Morpheus Sim.

I believe Rarebit said that the Morpheus sim's old details were supposed to hint that he was created by the General. Something to do with frequences on computers in mission areas that were related to the commandos?

Kybutra · 10/09/2008 13:52:01

GamiSB wrote:

Sarah Edmontons

This one may never be solved, Rarebit said at fan faire Paul Chadwick didnt leave any notes on where he was going with the Sarah Edmontons mini-story.

GodTier · 10/09/2008 14:06:48

How is Morpheus's death a loose thread? Maybe the only thing I can think of is, who switched the Merovingian's anti-jack-in codes with the kill-codes the Assassin ended up with?

privaronT · 10/09/2008 14:11:54

GodTier wrote:

How is Morpheus's death a loose thread? Maybe the only thing I can think of is, who switched the Merovingian's anti-jack-in codes with the kill-codes the Assassin ended up with?

Oh I dont know the entire live event arch regarding look alikes of him showing up afterwards not to mention the un indentified signal as seen in a rescent Machine Critical who has broken communications sent to the player by a Morpheus character wearing different clothing than the Sim.

GodTier · 10/09/2008 14:16:11

privaronT wrote:

GodTier wrote:
How is Morpheus's death a loose thread? Maybe the only thing I can think of is, who switched the Merovingian's anti-jack-in codes with the kill-codes the Assassin ended up with?
Oh I dont know the entire live event arch regarding look alikes of him showing up afterwards not to mention the un indentified signal as seen in a rescent Machine Critical who has broken communications sent to the player by a Morpheus character wearing different clothing than the Sim.

I don't know what you're talking about in regards to the "recent crit" but I thought it was plainly obvious that those Morpheus wannabes were just wannabes, and normal operatives (Morpheus followers, played by LE team) dressed in player clothes trying to look like Morpheus. Some of them even had the wrong clothing or missing clothing to push that idea.

privaronT · 10/09/2008 14:19:23

GodTier wrote:

privaronT wrote:
GodTier wrote:
How is Morpheus's death a loose thread? Maybe the only thing I can think of is, who switched the Merovingian's anti-jack-in codes with the kill-codes the Assassin ended up with?
Oh I dont know the entire live event arch regarding look alikes of him showing up afterwards not to mention the un indentified signal as seen in a rescent Machine Critical who has broken communications sent to the player by a Morpheus character wearing different clothing than the Sim.
I don't know what you're talking about in regards to the "recent crit" but I thought it was plainly obvious that those Morpheus wannabes were just wannabes, and normal operatives (Morpheus followers, played by LE team) dressed in player clothes trying to look like Morpheus. Some of them even had the wrong clothing or missing clothing to push that idea.

So do your crits. It's there.

GodTier · 10/09/2008 14:21:26

privaronT wrote:

GodTier wrote:
privaronT wrote:
GodTier wrote:
How is Morpheus's death a loose thread? Maybe the only thing I can think of is, who switched the Merovingian's anti-jack-in codes with the kill-codes the Assassin ended up with?
Oh I dont know the entire live event arch regarding look alikes of him showing up afterwards not to mention the un indentified signal as seen in a rescent Machine Critical who has broken communications sent to the player by a Morpheus character wearing different clothing than the Sim.
I don't know what you're talking about in regards to the "recent crit" but I thought it was plainly obvious that those Morpheus wannabes were just wannabes, and normal operatives (Morpheus followers, played by LE team) dressed in player clothes trying to look like Morpheus. Some of them even had the wrong clothing or missing clothing to push that idea.
So do your crits. It's there.

I don't have an idea as to which chapter this critical mission is at, so maybe you can help us in posting the subchapter and mission number? Or get a screencap?

privaronT · 10/09/2008 14:24:44

10.2.5 Glad I could help you get a better grasp of the storyline.

Neoteny · 10/09/2008 14:30:45

You know, he could always write his own continuation to the Sarah Edmontons thing.

I mean, that's the point of writing the storyline, isn't it?

I think a lot of these, if tied up before introduced, would make a much more functional storyline and game (which you just lost).

ShiXinFeng · 10/09/2008 14:45:09

Isn't one of The Masked still alive?

Popper still have a killcode embedded in him?

Justice for Toorima's role in the deaths of countless zion crews?

The Trainman's current whereabouts and condition?

GamiSB · 10/09/2008 15:02:50

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Isn't one of The Masked still alive?

One was killed the other Veil hinted at was killed as well back when Rarebit first started posting Live Event threads.

Kybutra · 10/09/2008 15:09:18

Neoteny wrote:

You know, he could always write his own continuation to the Sarah Edmontons thing.
I mean, that's the point of writing the storyline, isn't it?
I think a lot of these, if tied up before introduced, would make a much more functional storyline and game (which you just lost).

Im pretty sure he said he's not touching it.

Othinn1 · 10/09/2008 22:16:10

GodTier wrote:

privaronT wrote:
GodTier wrote:
How is Morpheus's death a loose thread? Maybe the only thing I can think of is, who switched the Merovingian's anti-jack-in codes with the kill-codes the Assassin ended up with?
Oh I dont know the entire live event arch regarding look alikes of him showing up afterwards not to mention the un indentified signal as seen in a rescent Machine Critical who has broken communications sent to the player by a Morpheus character wearing different clothing than the Sim.
I don't know what you're talking about in regards to the "recent crit" but I thought it was plainly obvious that those Morpheus wannabes were just wannabes, and normal operatives (Morpheus followers, played by LE team) dressed in player clothes trying to look like Morpheus. Some of them even had the wrong clothing or missing clothing to push that idea.

   According to someone who was at one of Enmascarado's meetings shortly before his apparent death, the Morpheus lookalikes were in fact part of a Cypherite plan to get Niobe and the Assassin in one place in the hopes that the Assassin would kill Niobe.

   I admit that I only have that person's word and no actual logs or anything to back it up. But I have seen a screenshot from one of these final Enmascarado meetings where he said something to the effect of "Everyone else has failed at this so far" when he discussed his plan to set off code bombs to lure the two together. It does make sense, though. The Morpheus lookalikes failed because only the Assassin showed up at the bombing sites. Both he and Niobe showed up when Enmascarado took things into his own hands.

   This is why the names of the Morpheus lookalikes (Sogno, Maerd, Ndengi, Oneiroi, etc.) are listed in the Cypherite section of my site.

Neoteny · 10/09/2008 22:52:01

Kybutra wrote:

Neoteny wrote:
You know, he could always write his own continuation to the Sarah Edmontons thing.
I mean, that's the point of writing the storyline, isn't it?
I think a lot of these, if tied up before introduced, would make a much more functional storyline and game (which you just lost).
Im pretty sure he said he's not touching it.

Why? Because he doesn't feel like it?

In this field, and even in general writing, sometimes you have to do things you don't feel like in order to resolve their place in the story.

Otherwise, the blanket you weave will have a large, long, frayed thread dangling in the breeze. And no one likes that kind of a thread on their blanket.

Cadsuane · 10/10/2008 01:30:51

Cheat Code Vials

Smith

ShiXinFeng · 10/16/2008 08:19:48

Updated with the information posted here in this thread.

GamiSB · 10/16/2008 08:28:37

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Gemaskeerd's true fate

This one has been answered. Veil hinted at it during a Cypherite meeting just after Rarebit started doing Live Events that Gemaskeerd was killed. Who killed him is unknown but the overall opinion was that he was killed by Veil or other Cypherites.

ShiXinFeng · 10/16/2008 08:53:01

GamiSB wrote:

ShiXinFeng wrote:
Gemaskeerd's true fate
This one has been answered. Veil hinted at it during a Cypherite meeting just after Rarebit started doing Live Events that Gemaskeerd was killed. Who killed him is unknown but the overall opinion was that he was killed by Veil or other Cypherites.

Nope, all she says is that tey have been "dealt with as they deserved". Given the current ambiguity in the development of the storyline, this could mean anything.

http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=10400129364

GamiSB · 10/16/2008 11:31:46

ShiXinFeng wrote:

GamiSB wrote:
ShiXinFeng wrote:
Gemaskeerd's true fate
This one has been answered. Veil hinted at it during a Cypherite meeting just after Rarebit started doing Live Events that Gemaskeerd was killed. Who killed him is unknown but the overall opinion was that he was killed by Veil or other Cypherites.

Nope, all she says is that tey have been "dealt with as they deserved". Given the current ambiguity in the development of the storyline, this could mean anything.
http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=10400129364

She also says that they discourage extream action at the cost of the system, something G&E were doing. Also G&E's philosophies were along the lines of "kill everyone in the real and not wanting to return to the Matrix" to which Veil and Crpytos have never advocated.

Thus we can safely assume they are casted in a negative light by Veil and her comment about getting what they deserve is a negative one. Because we haven't seen or heard of these two despite radical movements emerging from the Cypherites suggest that they are both dead.

Nicho · 10/16/2008 12:18:16

ShiXinFeng wrote:

Justice for Toorima's role in the deaths of countless zion crews?

I believe this was solved when she was in prison in Zion. Cypherites helped her escaped and therefore "Veil" came around. I was under the impression that Torrima and Veil are the same people.

Tesma · 10/16/2008 12:36:17

Nicho wrote:

ShiXinFeng wrote:
Justice for Toorima's role in the deaths of countless zion crews?
I believe this was solved when she was in prison in Zion. Cypherites helped her escaped and therefore "Veil" came around. I was under the impression that Torrima and Veil are the same people.

They are the same person, but I think ShiXin wants to see her die for killing the crew members.

Procurator · 10/16/2008 12:41:30

As do I.

Veil's as murderous as G&E, so her comment about them being 'dealt with as they deserved' is either a lie or misinterpreted. Yeah, she says Cypherites won't do anything to harm the System, but she says nothing about wantonly blowing up hoverbarges and slaughtering innocent redpills.

odj · 10/16/2008 12:58:22

Neo's Remains
Sarah Edmontons
Morpheus: Dead or Alive?
Smith Virus Resurgence
The Trainman's fate
The Kid's killcode
Gemaskeerd's true fate
Trinity's cranial jack attachment
Justice for Toorima's many murders
The Cheat Code Vials true fate
The two frags the Oracle gave EPN and Cyphs
Why the Oracle allowed to herself to be killed
Why Sati is so special

Funny thing is all that stuff is things I actualy give a crap about. The current things happening? Not really interested.

Cervacius · 10/25/2008 17:24:01

privaronT wrote:

GodTier wrote:
How is Morpheus's death a loose thread? Maybe the only thing I can think of is, who switched the Merovingian's anti-jack-in codes with the kill-codes the Assassin ended up with?
Oh I dont know the entire live event arch regarding look alikes of him showing up afterwards not to mention the un indentified signal as seen in a rescent Machine Critical who has broken communications sent to the player by a Morpheus character wearing different clothing than the Sim.

I was not aware of this. Proof? The screenshot you posted doesn't really show what he was wearing.

ZippyTheSquirrel · 10/29/2008 08:49:23

You would think, Beirn's continued influence as an Unlimit in the Matrix would still pollute the code as much as it did when Anome and his other cronies were running around. Why haven't we seen any increase in standard Merv redpills being touched by Beirn's pollution? We could have a mini Unlimit army, like our Commando army.

And what has Mercury been doing all this time with his cheat code vial? I know he has one, I still remember one of his henchmen talking about it before noticing me and shutting his yap.

The Trainman is either dead, or he's recovered but refused to come back into the main Matrix world for fear of being attacked by redpills again. He could still be doing work for other Exiles.

And I'm still a little ticked that not even being code-whipped by Halborn hasn't brought out any changes in Agent Gray. Where's our hint of Smith infection? t.t