FIFA Football Season 08/09

149 posts · 2008-09-17 06:44:52 to 2009-05-29 17:30:14

#36300502083 09/23/2008 04:16:04 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yasamuu wrote:
Yay, the other resident Rangers fan on here.

The three of us should start a fan club. XD

Im game..
#36300502209 09/23/2008 12:37:24 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yasamuu wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...tic/7630069.stm

Hehehe, and I happen to know the person who slapped him is Rangers supporter. >_>

Ohh, that reminds me it's the English League Cup tonight and tommorow.
I was listening to Clyde 1 when he did that. I was laughing my arse off.

At the end of the day, though. As Mike McCurry says 'We're Simply The Best'! SMILEY I love Scottish football.

Yas, i take it you play Football Manager?
#36300502258 09/23/2008 14:43:29 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yah. Most played games would come down to MxO, Football Manager (and the earlier championship managers) and Pro Evolution Soccer. <3 FM.

Celtic thumped Livi tonight, hopefully we'll do the same to Partick tommorow.

Criingey wrote:
Yasamuu wrote:
Yay, the other resident Rangers fan on here.

The three of us should start a fan club. XD

Im game..
Yeah!
#36300502737 09/24/2008 16:31:25 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Partick Thistel 1 - 2 Rangers. Both rangers goals were top class. But should have pounded this mod to a pulp. Never saw the entire game though.
#36300502897 09/25/2008 01:48:04 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
PascaI wrote:
Partick Thistel 1 - 2 Rangers. Both rangers goals were top class. But should have pounded this mod to a pulp. Never saw the entire game though.
*Sings the Kris Boyd song*

That goal was Van Basten like!

Good to see Spurs get off the mark with their first domestic win in 6months, against Newcastle. Pavlyuchenko got his first too so he'll hopefully go on a scoring spree. Also, Newcastle fans are far too expectant of their team. A big stadium and a mediocre amount of cash for a premiership team doesn't mean you should be challenging for the Premiership. All of the top 4 went through but Man City, and their Billions, were knocked out by Brighton!

Also woot, one of teams my season kicks off on Sunday in Glasgow... it's about time, a summer of boozing knocked me out my stride >_>
#36300502899 09/25/2008 01:55:31 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
PascaI wrote:
Partick Thistel 1 - 2 Rangers. Both rangers goals were top class. But should have pounded this mod to a pulp. Never saw the entire game though.


Apart from the two goals we did manage, the finishing was pure rubbish.  Darch looked way off the pace, Wee Nacho clearly couldny buy a goal last night and Boyd missed a couple of chances you'd put your mortgage on.  Thistle really deserved something more from their second half performance but in the end just werent strong enough to beat the Gers.  I will say something though.. it was an engrossing cup tie.  Thistle can walk away heads held high and Rangers really need to give their strikers a kick up the a*s!

#36300502914 09/25/2008 03:15:48 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Darcheville still has the work ethic he had last season but his finishing(see: missing from 1 yard out against Lyon), it wasn't good originally, has gotten worse and he seems to have put on even more weight. Boyd is the only natural goalscorer but does blow chances from time to time, Nacho has been erratic with his finishing since he had his debut 25 goal season for Rangers, he goes from the sublime to the shocking with some of his finishing(see: missing from 1 yard out against Liverpool) but he plays his heart out for the team too.
#36300502923 09/25/2008 03:39:18 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09

oh i agree with everything you said there Yas... just wish Boyd would spend more time chasing the ball rather than moaing to the first person he finds about this or that!  If he worked just that little bit harder he could be up there with the likes of Coisty! I know Coisty was kinda lazy too but when the ball can hit you and just go in who cares right?  Coisty worked harder than Boyd any day IMO!

#36300502926 09/25/2008 03:47:03 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yeah, I agree. Boyd is a stone overweight. Sometimes he works hard but it's like 1 in every 4 games instead of every game. Coisty was definitely harder working.
#36300502931 09/25/2008 04:08:02 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
I do enjoy this 'FIFA Scottish Football Season 08/09' thread.

Everyone knows the SPL doesn't count.  It's like 'The Bill', all the chewed up and spat out players go there when there's no other option.
#36300502932 09/25/2008 04:10:09 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
exsuscito wrote:
I do enjoy this 'FIFA Scottish Football Season 08/09' thread.

Everyone knows the SPL doesn't count.  It's like 'The Bill', all the chewed up and spat out players go there when there's no other option.
LOL, stop being in denial about your love for it!

Lets discuss Liverpools emphatic midweek win SMILEY
#36300502934 09/25/2008 04:21:02 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
exsuscito wrote:
I do enjoy this 'FIFA Scottish Football Season 08/09' thread.

Everyone knows the SPL doesn't count.  It's like 'The Bill', all the chewed up and spat out players go there when there's no other option.


The ES PEE ELL is by far the best league in the world.. bar none.. BAR NONE!

Aye right in my dreams eh?

Ok how about this .. predictions for the Premiership... whos gonna be the chumps? I mean Champs.. dont i?

#36300502937 09/25/2008 04:29:07 Re:Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Criingey wrote:
exsuscito wrote:
I do enjoy this 'FIFA Scottish Football Season 08/09' thread.

Everyone knows the SPL doesn't count.  It's like 'The Bill', all the chewed up and spat out players go there when there's no other option.

Ok how about this .. predictions for the Premiership... whos gonna be the chumps? I mean Champs.. dont i?

If Liverpool win it, chumps. SMILEY

Man United will do it this year, just. Chelsea second, Liverpool 3rd, Arsenal 4th. Aston Villa will get 5th and Man City 6th.

Relegation fodder: West Brom, Stoke and as much as I hope Newcastle I think..Bolton.

#36300502958 09/25/2008 06:09:12 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Chelsea this year.
#36300502959 09/25/2008 06:14:16 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09

If Portsmouth can get their defensive / goalkeeping problems sorted i fancy them to push for top 5 or 6. Cant see past Man U for the title right now, despite their poorish start to the season.

EDIT cause i canny spell!

#36300503320 09/26/2008 04:12:32 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...ope/7637600.stm

Europa League O_o

I'm not sure how successful this will be. I kinda like how the UEFA Cup is different from the Champions League. The idea of it becoming the same might make European competition a little bland.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...als/7636495.stm

The European Championships have been made bigger too. Maybe England, Scotland and Northern Ireland will qualify this time since they came close last time. XD

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foo...all/7637499.stm

West Ham just got stung. 30m quid fine, ouch.

I'm looking forward to the Merseyside Derby tomorrow. Thankfully it's before work so I'll get to see it, but I'll be playing when the Gers play Hibs on Sunday so I'll miss it. :/
#36300503408 09/26/2008 10:22:19 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Uefa cup should be knock outs like before.
#36300503410 09/26/2008 10:29:09 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
It works pretty much the same as the current UEFA Cup structure in terms of qualifying for it except runners-up in cup competitions don't make it in. In my opinion thats a good thing, it means teams like Queen of the South who have no chance of improving Scotlands reputation in Europe and Millwall who had no chance of doing it for England will have no realistic chance of making it into Europe. It might suck2bethem but frankly for the good of the countries football thats something I don't have sympathy with them for.
#36300503420 09/26/2008 10:47:59 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
I thought the runner up to the Scottish cup thing ended last year. Meaning QoS was the last team that would get it (In Scotland at least). Now i hear this isn't the case? BS!

It should go down to the next league position.
#36300503421 09/26/2008 10:53:08 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yep, that ends the year after this. Unfortunately. We can but hope for a Rangers v Hibs final SMILEY
#36300504062 09/29/2008 02:50:43 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09

I'm hopin for Killie to gte close to the finals. After that 4 - 2 scutching we gave to Aberdeen last week its got our hopes high to then get crushed again for pulling up against Celtic for the next round SMILEY

Yeah ditching the team thats in the final will be a good idea. We need our better teams to head into Europe rather than QoS style teams lol

And ex, SPL is better SMILEY (not really, only sayin that cause i'm Scottish ha ha) I prefer watching teams from my own country rather than being a glory seeking idiot SMILEY (Hence why i support Killie and Scotland SMILEY)

#36300504067 09/29/2008 03:08:18 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Anyone but the likes of Gretna and Queens. ~_~

Hearts beat Celtic at this stage last year I think, so it's not beyond Killie to do it considering how they played against Rangers at Ibrox. Depends what team Strachan fields and how up for it they are.

Thoroughly enjoyed the Merseyside Derby this weekend, Fernando Torres got back to scoring ways (and earned my fantasy football team 24points in the process!) scoring twice and his overall performance was awesome. Shock of the weekend goes to Hull! Daniel Cousin scored the winner, haha. That'll be his last goal for 5 games SMILEY Unless they play another big team soon. Spurs are still struggling, beaten 2-0 by Portsmouth, Ramos keeps chopping and changing and doesn't know what his best team is and I have a feeling he'll lose his job by the time he knows what it is. Newcastle beaten again, I hope they're relegated. Just because you have a big stadium doesn't mean you have a divine right to be in the top 4 of the Premiership like most of their fans seem to think.

I missed the Rangers v Hibs match and I'm gutted, because apparently we played them off the park winning 3-0. We should arrange friendlies with Derby and Wolves, since Kenny Miller only seems to like scoring against his old teams SMILEY Celtic, the jammy gits that they are, snuck a late win against Aberdeen. It won't be the last time they do that this season, unfortunately. Killie are on a bit of a slump after being beaten by Inverness! Shows how valuable confidence is in football, since they would probably have won that match before they lost to Rangers and Celtic but since they've taken two defeats and lost their clean sheet record the heads were bound to be down.

Caught the second half of Valencia vs Deportivo in Spain and Valencia were awesome, it's good to see them back to their best after last seasons troubles.

Our team won 3-1 on Sunday =D
#36300504084 09/29/2008 03:50:59 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09

Rangers did indeed play Hibs off the park.  The midfield was in total control all except that numpty Charlie Adam.  Why he gets a game i dunno.  There were 3 or 4 oppertunities where he could have put Darch, Nacho and Miller through on goal only for him to get caught with the ball or not release the pass quick enough.. total eedjit!  Apart from him.. top marks.  Mendez has already won player of the season as long as he doesnt get injured imo.

Premiership was good this weekend.  Lots of controversy as usual.  Dodgy reffing, teams not performing and of course Arsenal getting PUMPED haha!  Gotta love it.

#36300504118 09/29/2008 05:54:50 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Criingey wrote:

Rangers did indeed play Hibs off the park.  The midfield was in total control all except that numpty Charlie Adam.  Why he gets a game i dunno.  There were 3 or 4 oppertunities where he could have put Darch, Nacho and Miller through on goal only for him to get caught with the ball or not release the pass quick enough.. total eedjit!  Apart from him.. top marks.  Mendez has already won player of the season as long as he doesnt get injured imo.

Premiership was good this weekend.  Lots of controversy as usual.  Dodgy reffing, teams not performing and of course Arsenal getting PUMPED haha!  Gotta love it.

Haha, Charlie Adam. Once he stops munching the pies he might be fit enough to play Professional football at a decent level. He used to get a game because of his set-pieces, he scored like 12 goals or something 2 seasons ago. Now his set pieces are gash.
#36300504215 09/29/2008 09:41:11 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
I really am trying so hard to be positive.
#36300504330 09/29/2008 14:52:35 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Moonlite wrote:
I really am trying so hard to be positive.
Don't spurs get off to a slow start every season though? Selling your top striker at the last minute, though. That's crazy.
#36300504542 09/30/2008 02:09:42 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Berba wanted to go at the end of the day, and it was fairly obvious he'd leave.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...86908-20761358/

keke, Strachan says Celtic are out if they lose. So, I guess I'll be celebrating Celtics Champions League demise after 2 games tonight. They'll have lasted aslong as Rangers, technically. SMILEY
#36300504556 09/30/2008 02:49:32 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yasamuu wrote:

keke, Strachan says Celtic are out if they lose. So, I guess I'll be celebrating Celtics Champions League demise after 2 games tonight. They'll have lasted aslong as Rangers, technically. SMILEY

I want them to do well to be honest.  Anything that is going to give us that title back with ease is surely a good thang! SMILEY
#36300504557 09/30/2008 02:56:34 Re:Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Criingey wrote:
Yasamuu wrote:

keke, Strachan says Celtic are out if they lose. So, I guess I'll be celebrating Celtics Champions League demise after 2 games tonight. They'll have lasted aslong as Rangers, technically. SMILEY

I want them to do well to be honest.  Anything that is going to give us that title back with ease is surely a good thang! SMILEY
Fair point, actually. I'm easy either way. If they get knocked out, it's funny, if they don't it's good for our co-efficient, thats the stance I take. Plus, they'll probably drop into the UEFA cup rather than going completely out. So they'll still be tiring themselves out.
#36300504886 10/01/2008 02:37:50 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
So Celtic stumbled to a 1-0 defeat against Villareal and their chances of making the last 16 are pretty much gone. The fact that they have taken 1 point from a possible 51 points in the history of the champions league away from home tells its own story. They did seem to play well in spurts but Villareal had too much class for them on the night. In the same group Man United got their campaign off an running winning 3-0 against Aalborg comfortably.

I'm a little disappointed with Zenit losing again, I really thought they could trouble Juve and Real but it looks like they might struggle.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footba...86908-20763913/

Scotland have managed to secure a friendly with Argentina in November and the prices of tickets are cheaper than originally expected, thankfully so hopefully I'll be able to go to that.

Looking forward to seeing how Cluj do against Chelsea tonight and there's some other fairly exciting ties going on.
#36300504890 10/01/2008 02:47:51 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09

Berbatov finally got on the score sheet for Man U. 

Gotta worry about Celtic facing a Man U that are finding form too.  Doesnt look like their terrible away form in Europe is going to get any better anytime soon either.

Arsenal bounced back last night too.  Pumped Porto 4-0!  From the highlights i have to say it should have been double that. 

#36300504919 10/01/2008 06:18:48 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
My lads are appalling at the moment!
#36300505289 10/02/2008 02:43:41 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Last night was a bad night for Chelsea, they drew 0-0 in Cluj, just and Didier Drogba was struck down with a serious injury. Liverpool on the other hand cruised to a 3-1 win, Gerrard got his 100th Liverpool goal and in contrast, but equally important, Keane got his first. Atheletico Madrid kept up their awesome form, beating Marseille 2-1. Sergio Aguerro showing why he's the most talented youngster in the world right now. I suppose the only other shock of the night went to Famagusta beating Panathinaikos.

UEFA Cup tonight, 4 English teams and 1 Scottish team are playing. Good luck to them.
#36300505604 10/03/2008 03:32:37 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Well Spurs scraped through along with Portsmouth, Aston Villa and Man City but Motherwell and Everton were knocked out. To be honest, it doesn't suprise me that either dropped out. Motherwell didn't seem strong enough mentally to cope with european football and Everton did the damage when they lost 2 away goals in the 2-2 draw at Goodison.
#36300505989 10/04/2008 04:22:34 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yasamuu wrote:
Well Spurs scraped through along with Portsmouth, Aston Villa and Man City but Motherwell and Everton were knocked out. To be honest, it doesn't suprise me that either dropped out. Motherwell didn't seem strong enough mentally to cope with european football and Everton did the damage when they lost 2 away goals in the 2-2 draw at Goodison.
I was hoping Motherwell could get the first goal. That would have brought the game alive. But their defense i rotten. So glad Rangers didn't sign Mark Reynolds. He's just to short to be a center back imo.

Broadfoot seems to be coming on to game. Amazing performance at Easter Road (Hate going to Hibs).
#36300506086 10/04/2008 15:06:02 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Walter is a smart guy, a big reason that Broadfoot is in good form is because he has Davis in front of him who does work back and help out unlike Burke, who is just horrible and hasn't gotten better in the 5 years he's been 'on the scene'.

Reynolds form has dipped this year, he showed real class last year but was really found wanting when he stepped up to play in Europe.

AGAIN I have to miss the match due to the Rangers match conflicting with my own teams start time. ~_~
#36300506415 10/06/2008 02:21:23 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Well, I'm glad I missed the Rangers game this weekend. 1-0 Loss to St Mirren leaves Celtic top of the league on goal difference after they beat Hamilton 4-0. At least my team won again, 4-1.

Liverpool showed their mental strength and desire to win the Premiership by coming back from 2 goals down to Billionaires Man City to win 3-2. Tottenham AGAIN lost, this time to Hull City and I'll be suprised if Ramos lasts this month as manager, although they do play Stoke next so perhaps they can grab the points there. Sunderland managed a draw with Arsenal, although they were in a winning position with seconds to go but a point off one of the big four is always good and Chelsea made it 86 league home games without defeat, a run which spans 4 years, beating Aston Villa 2-0.
#36300506422 10/06/2008 03:21:45 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yasamuu wrote:

Liverpool showed their mental strength and desire to win the Premiership by coming back from 2 goals down to Billionaires Man City to win 3-2.

Yes.

I still don't think they have the tools to win it this season, but this is certainly a Liverpool team with a great deal more belief than ever before.  I attribute it to having a genuine world-class goalscorer up front, something we haven't had since pre-Madrid Owen.
#36300506770 10/07/2008 02:43:04 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
World Cup qualifiers this week and Scotland have already lost Kevin Thomson and Kenny Miller to injury which is bad news, though it should allow McFadden and the prolific Boyd to start up front which might be for the best anyway.

England are without Joe Cole which is bad news for them as Cole has been in great form for them in the past couple of qualifiers and Lampard and Barry were exceptional against Croatia so, does Gerrard walk right back into the team?
#36300506792 10/07/2008 03:55:43 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yasamuu wrote:
England are without Joe Cole which is bad news for them as Cole has been in great form for them in the past couple of qualifiers and Lampard and Barry were exceptional against Croatia so, does Gerrard walk right back into the team?

Shouldnae make too much difference to England ... theyre still rubbish.  Cut their pay packets and get rid of the prima donna attitudes and they might actually do something worthwhile.  When you look at the England team on paper they look amazing.. shame they cant make it happen really.. saying that as a Scot i dont think i could handle seeing England win something in my lifetime!
#36300506795 10/07/2008 04:02:39 Re:Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Criingey wrote:
Yasamuu wrote:
England are without Joe Cole which is bad news for them as Cole has been in great form for them in the past couple of qualifiers and Lampard and Barry were exceptional against Croatia so, does Gerrard walk right back into the team?

Shouldnae make too much difference to England ... theyre still rubbish.  Cut their pay packets and get rid of the prima donna attitudes and they might actually do something worthwhile.  When you look at the England team on paper they look amazing.. shame they cant make it happen really.. saying that as a Scot i dont think i could handle seeing England win something in my lifetime!
We haven't heard the end of the one that they won before our lifetime!

Still, if Scotland won something, we wouldn't let them forget it either SMILEY

Touching on the overpaid, prima donna attitudes; I've always said if I was at a club which I was happy and comfortable I wouldn't desert them for a bigger pay packet. It really pisses me off when people ditch clubs for the extra money. For example, if I ever ended up at the club I supported for my whole life the only thing that could possibly make me leave would be to join a club in which is a step up, and I only consider there to be 6 of those clubs in the world. In terms of winning tropheys, playing at the highest possible level and general lifestyle. (That'd be Arsenal, Man United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Real Madrid and Baracelona). If I didn't want to leave, I wouldn't then be persuaded by the offer for my wages being tripled. If I'm sat there on 10k per week, the offer of 30k means nothing to me. Wow, money for another a new car this week, who cares? One is enough.
#36300506797 10/07/2008 04:19:29 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yasamuu wrote:

1. England are without Joe Cole

2. so, does Gerrard walk right back into the team?

1.

2.
#36300506814 10/07/2008 05:05:48 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09

UEFA CUP DRAW:

Group A
Schalke 04
Paris St Germain
MANCHESTER CITY
Racing Santander
FC Twente

Group B
Benfica
Olympiakos
Galatasaray
Hertha Berlin
Metalist Kharkiv

Group C
Sevilla
Stuttgart
Sampdoria
Partizan Belgrade
Standard Liege

Group D
TOTTENHAM
Spartak Moscow
Udinese
Dinamo Zagreb
NEC Nijmegen

Group E
AC Milan
Heerenveen
SC Braga
PORTSMOUTH
Vfl Wolfsburg

Group F
Hamburg
Ajax
Slavia Prague
ASTON VILLA
MSK Zilina

Group G
Valencia
Club Brugge
Rosenborg
FC Copenhagen
Saint-Etienne

Group H
CSKA Moscow
Deportiva La Coruna
Feyenoord
Nancy
Lech Poznan

#36300506817 10/07/2008 05:23:02 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Oh nice! I didn't realise the draw was today.

Wow, Portsmouth vs AC Milan that will be fun. Kaka going to Fratton Park. I think Man City have the toughest group, but I like the look of Group C as an entertaining one. I'll be suprised if all four English teams don't go through.

Luka Modric will be up against his old team for Tottenham and if Pavlyuchenko wasn't ineligable, he would be too :O
#36300506861 10/07/2008 07:06:47 Re:Re:Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Yasamuu wrote:
Criingey wrote:
Still, if Scotland won something, we wouldn't let them forget it either SMILEY


If Scotland won anything there would be a MASSIVE PARTY!!!

Can you imagine the entire country totally steamin drunk and ... wait .. we are .. every weekend!

I like the look of Man Citys group.  That should be fiesty!

#36300506863 10/07/2008 07:27:28 Re:Re:Re:Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Criingey wrote:
Yasamuu wrote:
Criingey wrote:
Still, if Scotland won something, we wouldn't let them forget it either SMILEY


If Scotland won anything there would be a MASSIVE PARTY!!!

Can you imagine the entire country totally steamin drunk and ... wait .. we are .. every weekend!

I like the look of Man Citys group.  That should be fiesty!

Haha, it'd be awesome.

There'd be a huge tent up in Glasgow Green like in the Euro qualifiers.

I actually didn't realise how big Glasgow Green was until I walked through it on Sunday to get to the pitches, took me like 30minutes, lol.
#36300506869 10/07/2008 07:32:41 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09

Ah the good ol days of the Garden Festival! haha

#36300506874 10/07/2008 07:37:28 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
I was in Spain during World Cup '06 and that was one of the most enjoyable times of my life.

We saw two Spain matches and the atmosphere, alcohol and football was awesome!
#36300506875 10/07/2008 07:38:03 Re:Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09
Criingey wrote:
Group A

Schalke 04
Paris St Germain
MANCHESTER CITY
Racing Santander
FC Twente

Group E
AC Milan
Heerenveen
SC Braga
PORTSMOUTH
Vfl Wolfsburg

Group F
Hamburg
Ajax
Slavia Prague
ASTON VILLA
MSK Zilina

Manchester City should do alright, Maybe Paris St Germain will be a hard game.

AC Milan V Portsmouth will be good. It'll be between those two for the top spot.

Villa's hardest game will be against Ajax, But Villa's got a good team so it shouldn't be that bad.
#36300506877 10/07/2008 07:40:28 Re:FIFA Football Season 08/09

Never discount the Germans and Spanish in Group A there.

I think Man City (despite their apparent financial soliditiy) will have a seriously hard time getting through.