46 posts · 2008-09-06 11:02:13 to 2008-12-15 21:12:22
I think that if the W's would release the rights to WB for a tv series based on this, it would be a kick-@$# show! I have had this idea in my head for a long time, and I am really interested in what my fellow MxOers would come up with.
What era would it be set in, before Neo or after? If post-Neo, would it take MxO as canon? Would it follow a younger Morpheus? A younger Oracle? What cast? What would the pilot episode look like?
It would suck.
Not because of any lack of action or that it wasn't true to the story line but because I don't believe it would be possible for the producers and writers (unless the W bros decided they wanted to write it) to fill its story with the same amount of depth the trilogy had and keep the ratings up. As we have seen already any exploration into the deeper workings of the Matrix world would be lost to the same crowd that couldn't understand the sequels and thought they were crap. Also you could pretty much kiss any spiritual or philosophical content goodbye like we have had to do with MxO. Thus it would pretty much just be a show trying to bank off of the name alone which outside this game and community there really isn't enough of a following.
That all said if it was to be done I would rather see it set before Neo and start with Morpheus' first meeting with the Oracle and continue on till he finds Neo.
Doing something like this would be like when an old rock band reforms and releases something utterly rubbish.
Everyone goes "oh no!!", buys the record for purely nostalgic reasons and your left with this horrible feeling inside that you remember the good old days.
The Matrix Trilogy should be left as it is. Thats why we all love it like we do.. thats my thoughts anyway.
Oh, I don't know, I could see a weekly series come out of it. After all, that's what our storyline is, with nightly episodes even.
I could see a pilot episode that starts with Morpheus' awakening, when he's just a kid. He hasn't taken his nom de guerre yet, in fact he doesn't speak much at all as a boy. Maybe he witnessed a traumatic event as a bluepill kid (hmm, that could be something that sets up the Cypherites pre-dating Cypher himself).
In the pilot, we jump from a glimpse of Morpheus' life as a newly-awakened kid in Zion to him as a young man, just having joined a hovercraft crew and starting operations inside the Matrix. At the end of the pilot, he meets the Oracle for the first time and she tells him he will find the One, which sets the stage for all of his (weekly) adventures after that.
A weekly series allows the writers to explore in depth the backstories of Morpheus choosing his name, how he came to captain the Nebuchadnezzar, how he met Trinity and the rest of the Neb crew, as well as some (slight) exploration of the other primary Matrix figures such as the Oracle, Seraph, the Merv, Agent Smith. The fifth One. . .
Weekly episodes also allow for more new story. Maybe they incorporate some of the stories from the comics in the series. Maybe they introduce new characters; martyrs who sacrifice themselves for Morpheus' belief, turncoats who secretly work as The Masked, maybe even characters who were more instrumental in finding the One than Morpheus himself.
And of course, there is the whole "how he found the One" story. That in itself would be worth watching. All of this would lead up to the beginning of The Matrix, much in the same way Smallville has led up to the Superman legend.
I can agree with this one with you ShiX. I could see a weekly show based around the search for Neo. The series would start out with Morpheus and the beginning of the Nebuchadnezzar and the crew. Therefore the next few seasons could end up showing how Morpheus became so intuned with searching for the One and the prophecy from the Oracle. It would also explain and show Niobe and Morpheus being in a Relationship and them splitting once Morpheus focused on the Prophecy and the search for the One.Oh, I don't know, I could see a weekly series come out of it. After all, that's what our storyline is, with nightly episodes even.
I could see a pilot episode that starts with Morpheus' awakening, when he's just a kid. He hasn't taken his nom de guerre yet, in fact he doesn't speak much at all as a boy. Maybe he witnessed a traumatic event as a bluepill kid (hmm, that could be something that sets up the Cypherites pre-dating Cypher himself).
In the pilot, we jump from a glimpse of Morpheus' life as a newly-awakened kid in Zion to him as a young man, just having joined a hovercraft crew and starting operations inside the Matrix. At the end of the pilot, he meets the Oracle for the first time and she tells him he will find the One, which sets the stage for all of his (weekly) adventures after that.
A weekly series allows the writers to explore in depth the backstories of Morpheus choosing his name, how he came to captain the Nebuchadnezzar, how he met Trinity and the rest of the Neb crew, as well as some (slight) exploration of the other primary Matrix figures such as the Oracle, Seraph, the Merv, Agent Smith. The fifth One. . .
Weekly episodes also allow for more new story. Maybe they incorporate some of the stories from the comics in the series. Maybe they introduce new characters; martyrs who sacrifice themselves for Morpheus' belief, turncoats who secretly work as The Masked, maybe even characters who were more instrumental in finding the One than Morpheus himself.
And of course, there is the whole "how he found the One" story. That in itself would be worth watching. All of this would lead up to the beginning of The Matrix, much in the same way Smallville has led up to the Superman legend.
They should do something like that... However it should be more like Heroes. So like the first season will be discovering what they can do. Second season is showing each organization and power. Third season should be another big war, peace and continuation. During all this; Bad become good/good become bad and lots of main characters dying through out the series. I think having a TV Show based on "The Matrix" is an excellent thing to do!
I'd like to see stories about the "Heaven" and "Hell" Matrix. I'd also like to see stories about Seraph, Merv, and maybe even the first "One".Agreed with you 100% on that plus remember there was more than just the One, what about the others aswell...^^
ShiXinFeng wrote:I always wanted to see Cyphers past fleshed out in MxO or elsewhere. Most notably I think a sitcom would be a horrible idea but I think your ideas regarding all of those feelings and his past are something Rarebit should just finally take the time to work into the storyline.I can agree with this one with you ShiX. I could see a weekly show based around the search for Neo. The series would start out with Morpheus and the beginning of the Nebuchadnezzar and the crew. Therefore the next few seasons could end up showing how Morpheus became so intuned with searching for the One and the prophecy from the Oracle. It would also explain and show Niobe and Morpheus being in a Relationship and them splitting once Morpheus focused on the Prophecy and the search for the One.Oh, I don't know, I could see a weekly series come out of it. After all, that's what our storyline is, with nightly episodes even.
I could see a pilot episode that starts with Morpheus' awakening, when he's just a kid. He hasn't taken his nom de guerre yet, in fact he doesn't speak much at all as a boy. Maybe he witnessed a traumatic event as a bluepill kid (hmm, that could be something that sets up the Cypherites pre-dating Cypher himself).
In the pilot, we jump from a glimpse of Morpheus' life as a newly-awakened kid in Zion to him as a young man, just having joined a hovercraft crew and starting operations inside the Matrix. At the end of the pilot, he meets the Oracle for the first time and she tells him he will find the One, which sets the stage for all of his (weekly) adventures after that.
A weekly series allows the writers to explore in depth the backstories of Morpheus choosing his name, how he came to captain the Nebuchadnezzar, how he met Trinity and the rest of the Neb crew, as well as some (slight) exploration of the other primary Matrix figures such as the Oracle, Seraph, the Merv, Agent Smith. The fifth One. . .
Weekly episodes also allow for more new story. Maybe they incorporate some of the stories from the comics in the series. Maybe they introduce new characters; martyrs who sacrifice themselves for Morpheus' belief, turncoats who secretly work as The Masked, maybe even characters who were more instrumental in finding the One than Morpheus himself.
And of course, there is the whole "how he found the One" story. That in itself would be worth watching. All of this would lead up to the beginning of The Matrix, much in the same way Smallville has led up to the Superman legend.
Each character had their own story aboard the Nebuchadnezzar that can be revealed. And of course since they will be younger, they will not be played by the usual Laurence Fishburne, Carrie-Ann Moss, Hugo Weaving, Joe Pantoliano, ...ect.
Trinity: How did she accept the fact that the Oracle told her she will fall in love with the One. (I'm sure it would play a bit more emotional, but I don't have enough estrogen in me to elaborate on this more)
Cypher: He does end up liking Trinity, right? - Also he begins to doubt taking the Redpill because we all know what he did in the first movie. Wouldn't it be nice to see how he REALLY led up to those thoughts?
With the rest of the crew, we could see how they were awakened and such. I'm sure whoever that would be the director could add a bit more Epic-ness into the series, but I'm sure it can be done.
A good example for a REALLY GOOD movie turned series is the Terminator:Sarah Connor Chronicles. This show is amaxing.
I think if this would come. It would be amazing!
I'd love to see series that take the events from MXO as canon but I doubt it'll interest the rest of the world. So by a marketing point of view I'd go with series set way before Morpheus was even born. Perhaps just after the end of the second renaissance and the launch of the first iteration of the Matrix, and continue from there.
Man, if I had the money I'd get the brothers W to write 20 episodes for each iteration till the 6th and end each iteration with a movie (or trilogy), for the epicness. That'd be 5 movies and 100 episodes of pure Matrixism. All accompanied by new Animatrix and a new MMO to go with the series, set in the same era.
Yeah, that'd be nice. =) I'll stop daydreaming now.
Man, if I had the money I'd get the brothers W to write 20 episodes for each iteration till the 6th and end each iteration with a movie (or trilogy), for the epicness.
You guys still need to pick the cast.Robert Downey Jr as a young Morpheus.
Rarebit wrote:I approveYou guys still need to pick the cast.Robert Downey Jr as a young Morpheus.
>_>
You guys still need to pick the cast.
Morpheus - Anthony Mackie
Niobe - Tessa Thompson
Mifune - Vin Diesel
Administrator Haman - Aaron Eckhart
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The Oracle - Leslee Warren
Agent Smith - Uhh, just pick one. . .
Cypher - Jamie Bell
Trinity - Camille Belle
;|Mifune - Vin Diesel
ShiXinFeng wrote:;|Mifune - Vin Diesel
I would watch a show that followed morpheus to the awakening of neo for sure.
Rarebit wrote:I actually like this cast, however, Vin Diesel wouldn't take on the T.V. series role. Aaron Eckhart might, but you really can't have too many hollywood stars in one T.V. series. Also Jamie Bell, I doubt, would be willing to shave his head bald for the Cypher character unless they will be paying him bank rolls the whole series heh. Other than that it looks like a good line-up.You guys still need to pick the cast.
Morpheus - Anthony Mackie
Niobe - Tessa Thompson
Mifune - Vin Diesel
Administrator Haman - Aaron Eckhart
Archived image unavailable: Aaron-Eckhart.html
The Oracle - Leslee Warren
Agent Smith - Uhh, just pick one. . .
Cypher - Jamie Bell
Trinity - Camille Belle
I like that.
An issue I foresee in any attempt to make a TV series of the Matrix would be relating it to the movies. Not everyone who saw the movies follows the plot and the series religiously. It would have to appeal to a broader audience, and it's in implementing that where the studios make the most mistakes.
Such as making the series appeal to a 'younger' audience. *Shudders.*
I say "no". Three movies, Enter the Matrix VG, The Animatrix and two comic books is frankly enough IMHO.
What we have now with MxO is the best way to keep the story going, and I think it should remain the only way too. But IF some sort of TV series comes to be done (which I seriously doubt), it would be imperative to involve Rarebit (and maybe Chadwick) into writing the story and the screenplay for it. Without doing so the integrity of the Matrix Universe would be ruined forever.
And when I look at the mentioned above disastrous TV series "Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles", I can only wish that nothing like this ever happens to the Matrix franchise. Sincerely.
I thought people were digging that show.And when I look at the mentioned above disastrous TV series "Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles", I can only wish that nothing like this ever happens to the Matrix franchise. Sincerely.
deimoslvov wrote:I thought people were digging that show.And when I look at the mentioned above disastrous TV series "Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles", I can only wish that nothing like this ever happens to the Matrix franchise. Sincerely.
/as
I think its too early to think about additional Matrix material. I say lets revisit it in a decade or so. The Matrix trilogy needs more time to seep into our cultural history and aquire a sense of nostalgia for it.
This is why the Terminator series works for me, discounting the third movie, One and two were made in 1984 and 1990 respectively, enough time to percolate in our collective memory and then take a fresh, 2008 take on the mythos, introducing it to a whole new generation.
In fact after I saw Revolutions in the theater way back in 2003, at the very end, I felt it waas set up for the W Bros to revisit this at a much later date, like 10 or 15 years, with little Sati all growed up.
Distance makes the heart grow fonder, as they say. Now is not the time. In the meantime we have our own little clique here that few people know about (the silver lining of this game's small population).
Pilot Program
Scene I - Dreaming Awake
Scene II - Prophet in Training
Scene III - "A great leader will emerge"
Scene IV - The Proudest Day
Scene V - The Breadfeast
Scene VI - Dancing in the Dark
Scene VII - Shakedown (pt1)
Scene VIII - Shakedown (pt2)
Scene IX - "Cleared for departure"
Scene X - The Beast's Belly
Scene XI - Kung Fu Blues
Scene XII - A Summons
Scene XIII - The Beginning of the End
Coming Soon to a Next Renaissance thread near you.
I think a show set after the Matrix movies would be doable. I doubt they'd have MxO be canon, though. They may take a few ideas... but for the most part, the MxO story just doesn't do the movies justice.
. No Bruce Timm either...uh ah no way...forget it. No seriously, forget it. I'd bring back the Matrix cell phones too. Toy line for sure, Simulation and Desert of the Real lines. Paul Chadwick would be in there too of course. Crapload of people see the ad for MxO and their chance at continuing the story first hand. Boatload of new subscriptions and BAM! MxO finally realizes its true potential...
I would love to have a Matrix TV character based off of me. I always love the comic relief in a drama.
Villemar_MxO wrote:
I think its too early to think about additional Matrix material. I say lets revisit it in a decade or so. The Matrix trilogy needs more time to seep into our cultural history and aquire a sense of nostalgia for it.
This is why the Terminator series works for me, discounting the third movie, One and two were made in 1984 and 1990 respectively, enough time to percolate in our collective memory and then take a fresh, 2008 take on the mythos, introducing it to a whole new generation.
In fact after I saw Revolutions in the theater way back in 2003, at the very end, I felt it waas set up for the W Bros to revisit this at a much later date, like 10 or 15 years, with little Sati all growed up.
Distance makes the heart grow fonder, as they say. Now is not the time. In the meantime we have our own little clique here that few people know about (the silver lining of this game's small population).
This is exactly how i felt after the third movie. I've always figured that MxO would kind of serve as a set up for further exploration... but, who knows?
As fas as a TV show, I've thought there should be one for quite some time. I'm thinking like an HBO quality series to, not some dinky Sci-fi channel gunk (OMG how they murdered Dune >.<
. And I'd have to vote for a more random episodes approach. I think a "making of Morpheus" chronicle would get old quick. I would want to see episodes devoted to lots of the various charcters of the Movies. One of the things I found lacking in the second and third films was that we had a huge number of new characters introduced, but not enough screen time for any of them to be sufficiently developed.
Lastly, If HBO wouldn't go for it, and they couldn't get decent production values, I'd be just as happy to see it turned into an animated series. and whether the public would buy it is all a matter of how GOOD it is. Lets face it, lots of people went to SEE the films, even if many of them ended up a little dissapointed by the later ones.
