Regarding the tragedy on August 21st on Syntax.

I personally don't have an RSI signature for that instance, but I have an Exile friend who ventures there from time to time. If this doesn't get the Provisioner to move his fat toushe and do something, considering how out-spoken he's been about the damage these mooks threaten to his habitat, nothing will.

--Sieges,
Nautonnier of the Quinotaur
Familia Grigori

Not that I am endorsing the actions of this group, but the loss of two bluepills doesn't hold a candle to the collateral damage caused by the Machines and their thug wannabes in pursuit of "enemies of the system".

Lest you forget, every time an Agent overwrites a bluepill, their life expectancy suddenly becomes remarkably short. Not to mention the trauma that must be experienced by those that survive the experience.

Lest you forget, every time an Agent overwrites a bluepill, their life expectancy suddenly becomes remarkably short. Not to mention the trauma that must be experienced by those that survive the experience.

Not that I am endorsing the actions of this group, but the loss of two bluepills doesn't hold a candle to the collateral damage caused by the Machines and their thug wannabes in pursuit of "enemies of the system".

Lest you forget, every time an Agent overwrites a bluepill, their life expectancy suddenly becomes remarkably short. Not to mention the trauma that must be experienced by those that survive the experience.

Collateral on the same scale as 5-6 code bombs which harm the system and endanger innocent civilians? Casualties would have been a lot higher if it wasn't for the work of those 'thug wannabes', in fact I saw Machinists, Cyphs, Zionites, EPN and Mervs all working to prevent these bombs going off.

I'm quite frankly disgusted that you'd use this terrible event to throw a cheapshot toward the Machines. Just remember the reason why an Agent overwrites a bluepill is to protect the system and it's population from harm and/or actions commited by those opposing the system, the outcome of the bluepill lies solely on those taking action against the Agent. As for the trauma 'experienced' by bluepills... where is this ever suggested? Redpills, who are more aware of their surroundings than bluepills, who got overwritten couldn't remember what they had done in those months, it'd be remarkable if bluepills could remember what they had done. If of course they survive and are not killed by Zion/EPN or Merovingian.

Anyway, back on topic, I'd like to extend my thanks to all of those who helped try to prevent the bombs from detonating and to stop LV from their actions. I doubt we've seen the last of these bigots.

What's the cheaper shot - criticizing the sparse use of code bombs? Or criticizing the common occurrence of agent intrusion? Seems like a no-brainer to me.

As for the incident?

Good for these guys. Glad to see some initiative. It's come to the point where death is the only way some prisoners will achieve any freedom, and the only way where we will be able to achieve total freedom.

While I have my own code bombs, and in no short supply, I've been saving them for a rainy day. Maybe I should change that.

What's the cheaper shot - criticizing the sparse use of code bombs? Or criticizing the common occurrence of agent intrusion? Seems like a no-brainer to me.

As for the incident?

Good for these guys. Glad to see some initiative. It's come to the point where death is the only way some prisoners will achieve any freedom, and the only way where we will be able to achieve total freedom.

While I have my own code bombs, and in no short supply, I've been saving them for a rainy day. Maybe I should change that.

What's the cheaper shot - criticizing the sparse use of code bombs? Or criticizing the common occurrence of agent intrusion? Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Good for these guys. Glad to see some initiative. It's come to the point where death is the only way some prisoners will achieve any freedom, and the only way where we will be able to achieve total freedom.

Freedom by death? Do they get a choice about it? Something you've been so adament about giving them in the past. I can see now that you are either weak willed and can't keep to your own convictions, or you're a liar.

A code bomb has much more potential to damage the simulation and kill innocents then an Agent which attempts to protect the system and the innocents within. You're right, it is a no brainer.

So when is your interview for joining LV then?

((After this event I have lost all of my hope in the community of MxO, the pvpers have gotten out of hand this time, and Im about to call it quits all together. When we are doing an event where we can actually disarm the code bombs, but people think its more fun to run around with the flame virus flagging people and killing them for a bugged CQ, Im done.))

Lt0Brien wrote:

((After this event I have lost all of my hope in the community of MxO, the pvpers have gotten out of hand this time, and Im about to call it quits all together. When we are doing an event where we can actually disarm the code bombs, but people think its more fun to run around with the flame virus flagging people and killing them for a bugged CQ, Im done.))

((There was something off as well that I didnt enjoy. I mainly sat there and cheered on the EPN/Zion/Mervs who were killing the Mechs. The way things happened, makes me really rethink a few things about this game and the org I am in.))

:: Written on the back of a paper menu from a sandwich shop in Tabor Park ::

I have no words to describe how *ANGRY* I am at this situation. To anyone who cheers this outrage, all I can say is, what happens when the entire Matrix comes down? Where are people like me supposed to live? I have no interest in entering a machine body, since I have no desire to live in the Real and lose what I have here. I don't want to lose the rich life and its abundance of sense experiences; living in a Machine body would be tantamount to setting up housekeeping in a sensory deprivation tank. As would living in a construct for the rest of my life. And considering that I, due to my digital nature, am in effect arguably an immortal, that is going to be a very, very, very long time. But what can I expect from people who inflicted similar things to their nearest biological relatives, the great apes, and used them for unspeakable experiments. You humans go on about how cruel the Machines are, take a look at your own history for a change. Your own hands drip with the blood of your own kind and that of every other species. 

You humans make me sick.

--The Provisioner

:: Closes eyes, pinches bridge of nose:: God and ye gods, the very sound of that is giving me a migrane...

In a construct stored on a mainframe owned by the House of Forseti, the Provisioner is screaming bloody blue murder

Morraeon: :: Starts sharpening knives::

I have reviewed casualty estimates, from Machine files. There were locations our brief scan didn't take into account.

I'm afraid the bluepill death toll is a little more grave...

I have reviewed casualty estimates, from Machine files. There were locations our brief scan didn't take into account.

I'm afraid the bluepill death toll is a little more grave...

Neoteny wrote:

What's the cheaper shot - criticizing the sparse use of code bombs? Or criticizing the common occurrence of agent intrusion? Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Good for these guys. Glad to see some initiative. It's come to the point where death is the only way some prisoners will achieve any freedom, and the only way where we will be able to achieve total freedom.

Freedom by death? Do they get a choice about it? Something you've been so adament about giving them in the past. I can see now that you are either weak willed and can't keep to your own convictions, or you're a liar.

A code bomb has much more potential to damage the simulation and kill innocents then an Agent which attempts to protect the system and the innocents within. You're right, it is a no brainer.

So when is your interview for joining LV then?

Perhaps the Machines should allow them to get a choice in life. But that's somewhat beside the point. My goal has never been a choice for all. I'm not EPN. My goal has been freedom for all who can accept it. So you give the choice to those who can hash it, when you can, if you can under this Machine dictum, and what are you left with when they're all out? The batteries that fuel the warmachine which oppresses us. But they're not to blame - how can they be? They were born into a slavery they don't even recognize.

So their deaths are not my goal, nor do I believe that to be the goal of anyone I know (though I can't count these people in that list). And, of course, it's best to set code bombs off in secluded areas where bluepills will not be effected. But because the goal is to break the System, some bluepills will die. Minimizing the number of casualties is, of course, a priority, and the more that can be saved, the better. But so long as the Machines label the choice as a terroristic action, there will be no peace. And some death will be required to break the chains where it was not required before. And the thing is - they have the power to end this. With a word. With a whisper. But they won't.

And you don't even know why they won't. And you don't even care.

So don't cry to me about my actions, or the actions of a few renegade EPN members. We're terrorists, remember? We use methods which inspire terror in an attempt to achieve our goals. Freedom, not by permission, but by birth.

And yet you act so surprised to see "terrorists" living up to the title they were arbitrarily assigned. Perhaps you should ask the Machines to stop creating self-fulfilling prophecies.

Could you give us a number?

"Cryptos was once a strong Zion supporter who advocated finding a way to nuke the Matrix."

As ever Neoteny manages to talk more sense than everyone else combined. 

With a computer system, it is most often more economical and efficient to keep the one you have, if the cost of updating its programs and software and eliminating any viruses which may arise is cheaper than buying a new system altogether.

However, when so many errors and malfunctions arise which render it unusable, there is most often little choice but to begin using a new one.

In practical terms, if the situation becomes so dire within the Simulation that the Machines' very existance would be threatened from within it, would not they simply reset it (with as many redpills as possible still jacked in), aswell as positioning very available Sentinel in the New Zion access tunnels to prevent the departure or arrival of any Operatives and Hovercrafts?