Update 61 Discussion - June 26, 2008

306 posts · 2008-06-25 10:44:37 to 2008-07-15 09:49:09

#36300474485 07/03/2008 18:04:56 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Maybe I'm the only one, but I can't help laughing at the irony in the pursuit of the pink box.
#36300474612 07/04/2008 01:00:01 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Recursion did get the numbers up, but unfortunately we were still a half hour too long in doing my Daimyo box.
#36300474638 07/04/2008 04:21:26 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Null'd
#36300474649 07/04/2008 05:38:26 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Neoteny wrote:
Recursion did get the numbers up, but unfortunately we were still a half hour too long in doing my Daimyo box.
Well it was about 5 people doing damage upto about the 90 something spawn, with me and Nicks healing and buffing. A lot of players didn't log into Recursion till very late on, so the extra help came, but a little late, though nice to see the Mec players there just standing and watching.

Oh, I really like the effects of the Ninja's and the lvl 100 also looked really cool. Rarebit you made Nicks really happy with some of those color choices!
#36300474664 07/04/2008 06:59:55 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

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*flaming removed*

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.
#36300474713 07/04/2008 10:48:58 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
TheSorrows wrote:
Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

*Walks away from possibly the most obvious innuendo in the history of the human race*
Wow, all that extra effort to be an *CENSORED* to a fellow community member. Grow up.

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.
Yeah you can do a GM box with 4 people, maybe 3 or hell even two....As long as one is a MA and the other is a healer...you should be able to two man a box...doubt anyone will be able to one man the level 50 box with the way they can follow you..
#36300474717 07/04/2008 11:05:36 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
ReProgrammed wrote:
TheSorrows wrote:
Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

*Walks away from possibly the most obvious innuendo in the history of the human race*
Wow, all that extra effort to be an *CENSORED* to a fellow community member. Grow up.

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.
Yeah you can do a GM box with 4 people, maybe 3 or hell even two....As long as one is a MA and the other is a healer...you should be able to two man a box...doubt anyone will be able to one man the level 50 box with the way they can follow you..
Yeah, you can do the GM box with two. Me and me solo'd it! One MA and one UM/Healer with that gun buff thing. Even though it nearly took me the hole two hours. =P
#36300474722 07/04/2008 11:22:20 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Weskie wrote:
ReProgrammed wrote:
TheSorrows wrote:
Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

*Walks away from possibly the most obvious innuendo in the history of the human race*
Wow, all that extra effort to be an *CENSORED* to a fellow community member. Grow up.

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.
Yeah you can do a GM box with 4 people, maybe 3 or hell even two....As long as one is a MA and the other is a healer...you should be able to two man a box...doubt anyone will be able to one man the level 50 box with the way they can follow you..
Yeah, you can do the GM box with two. Me and me solo'd it! One MA and one UM/Healer with that gun buff thing. Even though it nearly took me the hole two hours. =P

Same thing with Zudrag and I.

Honestly the drop rate for the Shurikens is horrible. On average you can get from 5-9 shurikens from one box. when you need 72 for one outfit. And if you want all the outfits that's 216 shurikens. That's 44 boxes you'd have to go through if you got five on each one. For one person that's 44 boxes. For an entire team that's 264 boxes for 1,296 shurikens. Say the box takes the full two hours, and that's 528 hours of killing the same ninjas. That's the amount of three weeks and a day. T_T

#36300474727 07/04/2008 11:31:08 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Ballak wrote:
Weskie wrote:
ReProgrammed wrote:
TheSorrows wrote:
Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

*Walks away from possibly the most obvious innuendo in the history of the human race*
Wow, all that extra effort to be an *CENSORED* to a fellow community member. Grow up.

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.
Yeah you can do a GM box with 4 people, maybe 3 or hell even two....As long as one is a MA and the other is a healer...you should be able to two man a box...doubt anyone will be able to one man the level 50 box with the way they can follow you..
Yeah, you can do the GM box with two. Me and me solo'd it! One MA and one UM/Healer with that gun buff thing. Even though it nearly took me the hole two hours. =P

Same thing with Zudrag and I.

Honestly the drop rate for the Shurikens is horrible. On average you can get from 5-9 shurikens from one box. when you need 72 for one outfit. And if you want all the outfits that's 216 shurikens. That's 44 boxes you'd have to go through if you got five on each one. For one person that's 44 boxes. For an entire team that's 264 boxes for 1,296 shurikens. Say the box takes the full two hours, and that's 528 hours of killing the same ninjas. That's the amount of three weeks and a day. T_T

your math is terrible...since there are 3 items and you need 36 shurikens thats 108 and if you want all 3 colors that's 324 shurikens and 12 tokens....so much fun...
#36300474728 07/04/2008 11:37:55 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Aquatium. wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
Recursion did get the numbers up, but unfortunately we were still a half hour too long in doing my Daimyo box.
Well it was about 5 people doing damage upto about the 90 something spawn, with me and Nicks healing and buffing. A lot of players didn't log into Recursion till very late on, so the extra help came, but a little late, though nice to see the Mec players there just standing and watching.

Oh, I really like the effects of the Ninja's and the lvl 100 also looked really cool. Rarebit you made Nicks really happy with some of those color choices!

What is this talk about level 90's and 100's.  I thought the highest level was the 83 ninja.
#36300474730 07/04/2008 11:42:07 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Villemar_MxO wrote:
Aquatium. wrote:
Neoteny wrote:
Recursion did get the numbers up, but unfortunately we were still a half hour too long in doing my Daimyo box.
Well it was about 5 people doing damage upto about the 90 something spawn, with me and Nicks healing and buffing. A lot of players didn't log into Recursion till very late on, so the extra help came, but a little late, though nice to see the Mec players there just standing and watching.

Oh, I really like the effects of the Ninja's and the lvl 100 also looked really cool. Rarebit you made Nicks really happy with some of those color choices!

What is this talk about level 90's and 100's.  I thought the highest level was the 83 ninja.
The Daiymo Toy Box spawns ninjas from 71-100. 83-100 being named ninjas that have their own color schemes.
#36300474733 07/04/2008 11:43:59 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
ReProgrammed wrote:
Ballak wrote:
Weskie wrote:
ReProgrammed wrote:
TheSorrows wrote:
Pylat wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Can someone post pix of the pink box and what spawns from it?

*Walks away from possibly the most obvious innuendo in the history of the human race*
Wow, all that extra effort to be an *CENSORED* to a fellow community member. Grow up.

The 91 min thing is a little bit of a pain. The GM boxes are going very smoothly however.
Yeah you can do a GM box with 4 people, maybe 3 or hell even two....As long as one is a MA and the other is a healer...you should be able to two man a box...doubt anyone will be able to one man the level 50 box with the way they can follow you..
Yeah, you can do the GM box with two. Me and me solo'd it! One MA and one UM/Healer with that gun buff thing. Even though it nearly took me the hole two hours. =P

Same thing with Zudrag and I.

Honestly the drop rate for the Shurikens is horrible. On average you can get from 5-9 shurikens from one box. when you need 72 for one outfit. And if you want all the outfits that's 216 shurikens. That's 44 boxes you'd have to go through if you got five on each one. For one person that's 44 boxes. For an entire team that's 264 boxes for 1,296 shurikens. Say the box takes the full two hours, and that's 528 hours of killing the same ninjas. That's the amount of three weeks and a day. T_T

your math is terrible...since there are 3 items and you need 36 shurikens thats 108 and if you want all 3 colors that's 324 shurikens and 12 tokens....so much fun...

yep, you're right. So that's even more than I estimated. I forgot to add another 36 onto the 72. Oh well.

That's 324 for one person, 5 on each box that's 65 boxes. 390 boxes for a team, and 2 hour on those boxes would be 780 hours, actually. Which is 32 and a half days. That's a month of straight farming plus or minus a few days.

#36300474737 07/04/2008 12:11:22 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
you can get enough for 6 people with 33 boxes.....thats if each spawn drops a shuriken...which is impossible....

and 99 boxes if you want all the colors.
#36300474738 07/04/2008 12:12:08 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
To me it seemed a whole lot more logical to have more than 36 Shurikens drop per box (So 1 box = 1 item + a few spare to throw around. And if someone wants to get the outfit that's roughly 3 hours of content for them, more if they are an avid collector, not to mention the Daimyo box aswell). Cause at the end you're left with a pile of Completion tokens you can do nothing with cause you had to repeat the box 3-4 times to get 1 item.

I think people would have looked much more favorably on this content if "Re-playability" wasn't shoehorned in on it like this. The boxes are fun and I enjoyed them. But when you have to do around 12 just to get 1 item for each member of a 4 person team it turns into a grind.
#36300474742 07/04/2008 12:18:01 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
It seems to me that Satiland is exclusively a place to go to farm those specific boxes, absolutely nothing more.  Too bad there isn't anything else to do there.
#36300474744 07/04/2008 12:24:06 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
I think the drop rates are somewhat bizarre to be honest.  You get a token at the end of each box yet you have to complete the box 4-7 times to get enough shurikens for a trade.  That means you will then have atleast 4 tokens, 3 of which are useless to you......

Cant we add an info trade to the vendor like on the patcher quest so we can trade these tokens in for something, or is there somethign else that they can be used for
#36300474745 07/04/2008 12:26:17 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Being able to explore all of the buildings is awesome, what the matrix should have been from launch.
#36300474748 07/04/2008 12:31:51 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Kybutra wrote:
Being able to explore all of the buildings is awesome, what the matrix should have been from launch.
While that is a cool feature, the way mission areas work it wouldn't be possible outside the constructs.  And even if they cut down the mission areas, that would mean multiple people running missions in the same neighborhoods would run into all kinds of problems.  And now that I'm close to getting a third 50, I can safely say there are plenty of keyboard-smashing errors as is.
#36300474752 07/04/2008 12:44:25 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Kybutra wrote:
Being able to explore all of the buildings is awesome, what the matrix should have been from launch.
Amen. That's how the trailer in Revolutions extras made it sound the game would be like... being able to see all these areas is great.
#36300474754 07/04/2008 12:50:53 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Wonder why we can't have both. Like a key item that works on the nearest mission area and unlocks it, as if it is a mission.

Or have the mission system check an area it plans to use, if its empty, lock it down for exclusive use.
#36300474759 07/04/2008 13:24:47 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
LtCmdr_Tsusai wrote:


Or have the mission system check an area it plans to use, if its empty, lock it down for exclusive use.


Thats what i was thinking, that'd be sweet.
#36300474789 07/04/2008 15:23:02 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
I have typed out a fairly basic guide, found here. No need to thank me, just send me money.

#36300474792 07/04/2008 15:34:45 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
At level 50 the Ninjas have 800 T/V/B resistance. Yaay.
#36300474811 07/04/2008 17:05:46 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Zudrag wrote:
I have typed out a fairly basic guide, found here. No need to thank me, just send me money.


Yay!!  You sir are a Pioneer.
#36300474827 07/04/2008 18:10:47 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
I'm getting a bit of a build up in Grandmaster tokens, since it takes about 4 boxes worth of shurikens to trade in for one clothing item. Perhaps there should be an option at the collector to trade in one of the tokens for an appropriate amount of shurikens?
#36300474867 07/05/2008 01:54:33 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Thats a point, this is another quest without an info/xp trade in option. What ever happened to that being the design philosophy moving forward? Now things are just plain inconsistant.
#36300474942 07/05/2008 10:13:22 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Villemar_MxO wrote:
Zudrag wrote:
I have typed out a fairly basic guide, found here. No need to thank me, just send me money.


Yay!!  You sir are a Pioneer.
Actually, he's THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST.
#36300475030 07/05/2008 15:22:38 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Honestly, I believe sati's needs some fixing. A level 30-40 could be right in the middle of a box, then any arse in the game can come in and steal your box kills if they're a 50, with hardly any effort. Point being: Honor code doesn't do jack here.
#36300475036 07/05/2008 15:32:10 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
This is why you do boxes in the buildings that have underground rooms, where waypoint and target macros would still make it difficult to find you.
#36300475059 07/05/2008 16:55:41 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Ballak wrote:
Actually, he's THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST.
Are you gone and on to someone new?
#36300475060 07/05/2008 17:02:07 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
ZETAX101 wrote:
Honestly, I believe sati's needs some fixing. A level 30-40 could be right in the middle of a box, then any arse in the game can come in and steal your box kills if they're a 50, with hardly any effort. Point being: Honor code doesn't do jack here.
Lol, Just do the box inside a building where people can't find you.
#36300475257 07/06/2008 12:09:32 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Eh?...



Made? How can they be made? Item cannot be decompiled...

Or is it just meant to be referring to the ninjas and not the shurikens?
#36300475262 07/06/2008 12:37:54 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
odj wrote:
Made? How can they be made? Item cannot be decompiled...

Or is it just meant to be referring to the ninjas and not the shurikens?

Looks like plans are already been set for Update 62 in some form.  Mabey a new Datamine spawn?
Would be nice for them to be decompilable, there are a lot to collect and decomping is the best item storage around (in MxO at least)
#36300475307 07/06/2008 16:38:52 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Recursion is currently going through a Damiyo box at Debir Court. All that want to help are welcome.
#36300475346 07/06/2008 18:35:24 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
AltDimension wrote:
Recursion is currently going through a Damiyo box at Debir Court. All that want to help are welcome.

And how did that go?
#36300475348 07/06/2008 18:40:07 Update 61 Hotfix Discussion
Zudrag wrote:
AltDimension wrote:
Recursion is currently going through a Damiyo box at Debir Court. All that want to help are welcome.

And how did that go?

As it is now, the box dissapeared ages ago, and we're currently on a lvl 97.

So we didn't finish it, too many people leaving and not enough gunners. But we'll be trying again soon.

#36300475356 07/06/2008 19:17:02 Re:Update 61 Discussion - June 26, 2008
What mood is the playground assistant standing in I wonder?
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#36300475628 07/07/2008 15:23:10 Re:Update 61 Hotfix Discussion

You're scaring me rare ;p...

PS: please make the drops at least worth it..they're a flat out downgrade atm...