Image Retrieval - June 11, 2008

FrozenFyre wrote:

Hmm, a few people have been referring to "boxes" - where have you read about these, are they PB style boxes or something else?

lurk moar 

  Come and play!!

Oh and one thing: Would I finally get my Pacification-Luggable???

I think the smaller space will be a cool change.

More people in small area.

Plus it could be org controlled now with only having a small space to man. So could have battles for the playground!

Hehe!

Looking good rarebit! Can't wait! More PICS please!

Sati's Dream Land.

Looking for large team PvE please!

TonyJaa wrote:

Ballak wrote:

TonyJaa wrote:

+1

According to the description, I expect unicorns and rainbows.

Is that good or bad??

Thats what it said when I read it " width="15" height="15" />

As for using the real mara, can you imagine how the PVP would turn out if everyone could open a Box that kept spwning NPCs that go up to level 100 and stay there for 3 hours " width="15" height="15" />

 It would be nice to have a construct that didn't flag you for PvP

FFA pvp plz?

Maybe those 'floating' cars are driving on invisible roads that you can also run on-what happens if you fall or jump off? That could also be the puzzle you have to figure out to get out to those locations-an invisible maze of roads where the clue to their existence is the cars driving on them. Or maybe hyperjump rules are different here as in buffable beyond the current limit or even not nerfed at all. I'll bet one way or another all those floating islands are accessible since Sati can bend the rules.

A non pvp construct seems the most likely as well. Why make something new that's just like something that already exists?

This is exciting, can't wait to see what it's all about. I hope this isn't the last new construct either. It's a great way to expand the game and so far the creativity put into these two is very cool.

A non pvp construct seems the most likely as well. Why make something new that's just like something that already exists?

Tenshi wrote:

FFA pvp plz?

No one plays in DM anymore except for the once in the blue moon player or *cough*infofarmer*cough*. Give us FFA PeeVeePee.

definately something different.  It's supposed to be a playground, I can't wait....

 Judged from the screenshots, it won't be all fun and games   Those ninja's don't look happy to see the one who opens the box.

Hisagawa wrote:

Tenshi wrote:

FFA pvp plz?

No one plays in DM anymore except for the once in the blue moon player or *cough*infofarmer*cough*. Give us FFA PeeVeePee.

Doesn't mean if there is few people in Datamine, few people want FFA PVP?
Inevitably, this construct will end up hardly used too sadly (Until they fix how we enter the construct) and with these new boxes with enemies going onto level 100, I would rather see the PVP optional.  But thats just me.

SolidRevolver wrote:

Hisagawa wrote:

Tenshi wrote:

FFA pvp plz?

No one plays in DM anymore except for the once in the blue moon player or *cough*infofarmer*cough*. Give us FFA PeeVeePee.

Doesn't mean if there is few people in Datamine, few people want FFA PVP?
Inevitably, this construct will end up hardly used too sadly (Until they fix how we enter the construct) and with these new boxes with enemies going onto level 100, I would rather see the PVP optional.  But thats just me.

Rarebit said he had something different in mind for this construct, so I'm guessing no-pvp. I don't know what you mean by "fixing how we enter constructs" because it's working as should be. Maybe fighting multiple level 100s will be hard, but honestly one or two isn't that big of a deal. Level 100 Agent spawns can be two-manned easily.

Ballak wrote:

SolidRevolver wrote:

Hisagawa wrote:

Tenshi wrote:

FFA pvp plz?

No one plays in DM anymore except for the once in the blue moon player or *cough*infofarmer*cough*. Give us FFA PeeVeePee.

Doesn't mean if there is few people in Datamine, few people want FFA PVP?
Inevitably, this construct will end up hardly used too sadly (Until they fix how we enter the construct) and with these new boxes with enemies going onto level 100, I would rather see the PVP optional.  But thats just me.

Rarebit said he had something different in mind for this construct, so I'm guessing no-pvp. I don't know what you mean by "fixing how we enter constructs" because it's working as should be. Maybe fighting multiple level 100s will be hard, but honestly one or two isn't that big of a deal. Level 100 Agent spawns can be two-manned easily.

They are giving us 3 hours spawn timer.....I think it will be a few more then just two....

I don't know what you mean by "fixing how we enter constructs" because it's working as should be.

r3spon5e wrote:

A non pvp construct seems the most likely as well. Why make something new that's just like something that already exists?

I think it'll be a non pvp construct too. I mean imagine opening a box and Zudrag comes in and kills you.

what's up with the carz in the white zone?

are they drivable of something?

mmmm....

what's up with the carz in the white zone?

are they drivable of something?

mmmm....

Ballak wrote:

I don't know what you mean by "fixing how we enter constructs" because it's working as should be.

If it was easier to enter the construct, say with an option on the HL, it could get people to PVP more in there or just use it more in general rather than HLing near your Archivist, heading to your archivist, waiting for him to send you... you have just missed it so you are going to be here a while.  Finally he starts to send you... but your book broke so now you have to buy another and wait for even longer " width="15" height="15" />

That's annoying, but that's how it's always been. I see no reason to change it, it's fine as is. I'd rather development time be spent elsewhere.

But that is like saying 'Having %Bonus Debuffs that dont work is annoying, but it has always been there so come up with new stuff instead'.

Making it easier to return to the constructs will help them get used more, and actually seeing content we already have getting used more is a lot better than introducing more stuff that will end up deserted in a couple weeks.  At least I think so.

Ballak wrote:

That's annoying, but that's how it's always been. I see no reason to change it, it's fine as is. I'd rather development time be spent elsewhere.

But that is like saying 'Having %Bonus Debuffs that dont work is annoying, but it has always been there so come up with new stuff instead'.

Making it easier to return to the constructs will help them get used more, and actually seeing content we already have getting used more is a lot better than introducing more stuff that will end up deserted in a couple weeks.  At least I think so.

SolidRevolver wrote:

Ballak wrote:

That's annoying, but that's how it's always been. I see no reason to change it, it's fine as is. I'd rather development time be spent elsewhere.

But that is like saying 'Having %Bonus Debuffs that dont work is annoying, but it has always been there so come up with new stuff instead'.

Making it easier to return to the constructs will help them get used more, and actually seeing content we already have getting used more is a lot better than introducing more stuff that will end up deserted in a couple weeks.  At least I think so.

Is an extra three minutes really that tedious to wait?

IMO... yes, it is.

'Constructs' is also listed in the HL drop down box, so it was at least thought about at one time.  It would be great if they were all listed there.  We 'would' use the construct more, without a doubt.  So, maybe you'd still have to have the book equiped... that's phine.  But I think all the constructs would see more action.  New players don't even know the constructs exist unless someone tell them about them, and how to get there, now.

I don't think people's exceptional laziness should be catered to.

I don't think people's exceptional laziness should be catered to.

Ok, stick a pacification zone 100 meters around all the HLs, that will stop all those lazy people just jacking back to Mara C so they can quickly get back into a fight.

In an age where games a praised for short loading times, and making sure you are never too far away from the action, it is very unusual this game forces you to wait.  No one likes playing the waiting game.

Zudrag wrote:

I don't think people's exceptional laziness should be catered to.

Ok, stick a pacification zone 100 meters around all the HLs, that will stop all those lazy people just jacking back to Mara C so they can quickly get back into a fight.

In an age where games a praised for short loading times, and making sure you are never too far away from the action, it is very unusual this game forces you to wait.  No one likes playing the waiting game.

Have you ever waited on Queue's in World of Warcraft PvP? They can take over 30 minutes occasionally before you get into a battlegrounds. There are plenty waiting periods in any game, especially MMO's that are basically known for their laid back and repetitive gameplay. Not that it's bad having repetitive gameplay, because if it's fun who doesn't want to do fun things.

Complaining about having to wait three minutes, and that it needs to be changed honestly doesn't really seem like at the top of the priority list, IMO.

Did anyone else notice that the helicopter is a brand new model?

Either Rarebit found an old unused model or we got a modeler person.  :D

Did anyone else notice that the helicopter is a brand new model?

Either Rarebit found an old unused model or we got a modeler person. 

Did anyone else notice that the helicopter is a brand new model?

Either Rarebit found an old unused model or we got a modeler person. 

Have you ever waited on Queue's in World of Warcraft PvP? They can take over 30 minutes occasionally before you get into a battlegrounds.

Cervacius wrote:

Did anyone else notice that the helicopter is a brand new model?

Either Rarebit found an old unused model or we got a modeler person.  " width="15" height="15" />

It looks like just a change of the texture on the current heli's.

Perhaps, but I don't think so.  The current helis have a rear prepellar and these don't and I don't think the prepellar is just a texture. 

Which, I'm not an expert on helicopters, but don't you have to have a rear prepallar or it won't work?

Ballak wrote:

Have you ever waited on Queue's in World of Warcraft PvP? They can take over 30 minutes occasionally before you get into a battlegrounds.

I have waited on them, and there is a huge difference between Battlegrounds and Constructs, BGs require a certain amount of people and are instanced, constructs are completely open which makes the wait pointless in my opinion.

Perhaps, but I don't think so.  The current helis have a rear prepellar and these don't and I don't think the prepellar is just a texture. 

Which, I'm not an expert on helicopters, but don't you have to have a rear prepallar or it won't work?

Normally i'd justify the construct teleportation timer on giving the orginally intended PvP a nessecary cool down period to avoid the current Mara C like environment but i've come to realise the "reconstruct, jack in, get to the archivist, load the construct, get back to where the fight was" period is enough of a cool down as it is without another waiting period attached.

Maybe the archivists can be turned into a single click teleporter system like those in hideouts. But then we'd have probably have to lose the cool teleportation effect...

cloudwolf wrote:

Normally i'd justify the construct teleportation timer on giving the orginally intended PvP a nessecary cool down period to avoid the current Mara C like environment but i've come to realise the "reconstruct, jack in, get to the archivist, load the construct, get back to where the fight was" period is enough of a cool down as it is without another waiting period attached.

Maybe the archivists can be turned into a single click teleporter system like those in hideouts. But then we'd have probably have to lose the cool teleportation effect...

Couldn't the Archivists be on a single click system which initiates a 10 second countdown and in doing so use the animation so we wouldn't loose the effect? This would cut down on waiting time but still leave some small time to cooldown.

null (stupid... dunno if it was the forums or my work connection but it was something other than me )

What I'd REALLY like to see is a new type of sky or better yet new variants in the sky cycle including times when the sky cycles into the deep blue from the Blue Sky event, the deep red from Chapter 7, and dare I say it...the Eyes in the Sky from end of beta!

This would be awesome and fit in exactly with Sati's purpose as a program!  Love to see odd colors and patters.  Plaid sky ftw!!!

What I'd REALLY like to see is a new type of sky or better yet new variants in the sky cycle including times when the sky cycles into the deep blue from the Blue Sky event, the deep red from Chapter 7, and dare I say it...the Eyes in the Sky from end of beta!

This would be awesome and fit in exactly with Sati's purpose as a program!  Love to see odd colors and patters.  Plaid sky ftw!!!

What I'd REALLY like to see is a new type of sky or better yet new variants in the sky cycle including times when the sky cycles into the deep blue from the Blue Sky event, the deep red from Chapter 7, and dare I say it...the Eyes in the Sky from end of beta!

This would be awesome and fit in exactly with Sati's purpose as a program!  Love to see odd colors and patters.  Plaid sky ftw!!!

I couldn't agree with you more!  I really hope Sati's Playground has some type of unique and beautiful sky!!  Something that maybe changes more rapidly too would be kewl, if that's possible... like speeding the time up even more, which would allow for all the different sky effects to changes more often.

*dreaming*