Thanks, but no thanks. Only one person was scammed.

Props to BlazinWolf.  He's got my respect -- I hope he has yours.

If nothing is done, I'm sending my entry fee refund to the champion, and encourage others to do the same, to make up for where faith in the CSRs has failed this time.

I sincerely hope the other entries phollow your example sir.... you have my respect and gratitude.  This is a very honorable thing you've offered to do, and Blazie certainly deserves something phor all his hard work and effort.  It won't make it completely right, but what you've suggested could make it not quite so painful.

I have little respect for the CSR ban zealots.  But in this case they are only the messengers of injustice, not the authors.

The sad, bitter irony is that the person who did the most to win ends up with the least.  Way to go, SOE, really a world-class decision worthy of Solomon.  With TOS with a wide range of discretion allotted to GMs/admins, it breaks my heart to see such a callous interpretation, with no regard for Blazin, for the other contestants, or for the community.

I have little respect for the CSR ban zealots.  But in this case they are only the messengers of injustice, not the authors.

The sad, bitter irony is that the person who did the most to win ends up with the least.  Way to go, SOE, really a world-class decision worthy of Solomon.  With TOS with a wide range of discretion allotted to GMs/admins, it breaks my heart to see such a callous interpretation, wiuth no regard for Blazin, for the other contestants, or for the community.

SOE does not take and item from one player and give it to another. Fine, just make a new assassin's mask and give it to Blaze, problemsolved, no items missing its all good.

And I highly doubt anyone would have a problem with it. Except maybe the scammers

imax wrote:

SOE does not take and item from one player and give it to another. Fine, just make a new assassin's mask and give it to Blaze, problemsolved, no items missing its all good.

And I highly doubt anyone would have a problem with it. Except maybe the scammers

Best idea so far.

Agreed " width="15" height="15" /> .... Blaze deserves whats his..do we really need to lose anymore peeps over this..? Or have anymore headaches? It should be simple..do the right thing..and you will shut all of us up.

And don't lock threads and beat around the bush either..it's been too long already as it is

imax wrote:

SOE does not take and item from one player and give it to another. Fine, just make a new assassin's mask and give it to Blaze, problemsolved, no items missing its all good.

And I highly doubt anyone would have a problem with it. Except maybe the scammers

Best idea so far.

SOE does not take and item from one player and give it to another. Fine, just make a new assassin's mask and give it to Blaze, problemsolved, no items missing its all good.

And I highly doubt anyone would have a problem with it. Except maybe the scammers

imax wrote:

SOE does not take and item from one player and give it to another. Fine, just make a new assassin's mask and give it to Blaze, problemsolved, no items missing its all good.

And I highly doubt anyone would have a problem with it. Except maybe the scammers

/sign

Archangel wrote:

imax wrote:

SOE does not take and item from one player and give it to another. Fine, just make a new assassin's mask and give it to Blaze, problemsolved, no items missing its all good.

And I highly doubt anyone would have a problem with it. Except maybe the scammers

/sign

Yessum.  I feel bad for Blazin, I know he spent a lot and trained a bit to win the tourney and he's the one who gets little.

What the hell is wrong with Customer Service? 

Demedrian wrote:

Archangel wrote:

imax wrote:

SOE does not take and item from one player and give it to another. Fine, just make a new assassin's mask and give it to Blaze, problemsolved, no items missing its all good.

And I highly doubt anyone would have a problem with it. Except maybe the scammers

/sign

Yessum.  I feel bad for Blazin, I know he spent a lot and trained a bit to win the tourney and he's the one who gets little.

What the hell is wrong with Customer Service? 

I am not defending them or anything, but they try to do what they see as best to satisfy all players. They can't refund AND give BW a mask so they thought refunding everyone would be better and would satisfy more people.

I wonder more what's wrong with people that try scam others all the time?

Just when you think that people in the community couldn't get any lower something like this happens and for what?  So a few people can claim internet fame for scamming an entire community?  I don't know what's worst the perpetrators of this scam who then brag about it or the fanboys who jump on the bandwagon and support it.  I think one person said it best and let me quote him....

Tsusai really didn't help matters by rubbing salt into the wound. Some people really sink low, the people who brag about how they benefit from it sink lower. - Capone

With that said Sony will not change precedence by taking an item from one player who won it officially during a Sony event and then giving it to another player based on a player run event.

However there is nothing stopping Rarebit or the powers that be from righting this situation and making Blazinwolf a new mask.  It is not hard to do, just do it.

Assassin Skam ftl

I'm lost what happened?

To keep it sort and MOD friendly (jury seems to be on the war path these days)

Cap0ne, Ballak, and Zudrag hosted a tournament in which he promised to give away the rarest item on recursion. The prize for first place was to be (as he put it) The Assassin(no 's) Mask, which is the halloween mask not the real deal. However his post to announce the tourney all showed pictures of the assassin's mask, explaining what it is, what it does, and why its special. This made it easy for people to skip over or miss the fact that first prize was not the assassin's mask but just the Halloween mask. Once all was said and done he emailed the prizes and posted a comic making it out that this was his intention from the start.

Naturally people were upset about this, calling it a scam, CS was called in, and a lot of drama came about resulting in what you see now. 

Just when you think that people in the community couldn't get any lower something like this happens and for what?  So a few people can claim internet fame for scamming an entire community?  I don't know what's worst the perpetrators of this scam who then brag about it or the fanboys who jump on the bandwagon and support it.  I think one person said it best and let me quote him....

Tsusai really didn't help matters by rubbing salt into the wound. Some people really sink low, the people who brag about how they benefit from it sink lower. - Capone

With that said Sony will not change precedence by taking an item from one player who won it officially during a Sony event and then giving it to another player based on a player run event.

However there is nothing stopping Rarebit or the powers that be from righting this situation and making Blazinwolf a new mask.  It is not hard to do, just do it.

Assassin Skam ftl

Can another mask not just be conjoured up for BW?

No mask is taken from a banned player, the tourney winner gets his prize, and everyone can go about their business.

Is there a cast iron rule that there can only be a certain number of masks per server? If so, is it right to for it to reside with a banned player?

The main problem with giving out another mask is that it could be used as precedent in future messes. 

The main problem with giving out another mask is that it could be used as precedent in future messes. 

The more I think about it, the more I can see why adding another "item", regardless of what it is will cause futher problems. Let's say someone hosts a tourney with a Patchers Bandana as the prize, they don't have/give it, does that mean SOE need to provide the prize from a players tournament? that will be a future precendent that will cause problems if they added a entirely new mask.

What should have been done is the mask taken from Capone and given to blaze, as that's exactly what was advertised, and they are only trying to get away with it on a wording technicality.

I can see the problem the CSR face with that decision the more I think about it, and I'm dissapointed for Blaze on what has transpired. Regardless of what might happen or not, I'd happily send Blaze 30m from my refund of the entry fee, but I think we all know its got nothing to do with the actual info at all.

I hope you enjoyed your laugh at the communities expense Zudrag, Ballak and Cap0ne, enjoy your new found fame as being fraudsters and being the type of community members we could do less with.

I hope you enjoyed your laugh at the communities expense Zudrag, Ballak and Cap0ne, enjoy your new found fame SHAME as being fraudsters and being the type of community members we could do less with.

Aquatium. wrote:

I hope you enjoyed your laugh at the communities expense Zudrag, Ballak and Cap0ne, enjoy your new found fame SHAME as being fraudsters and being the type of community members we could do less with.

Sorry to edit your post Aquatium but i think that SHAME is more fitting.

In my opinion, SOE needs to think alittle more as to the outcome of their solutions... Really I know it's your game and all but we pay to play it, and some of us have been around from the start. You want to see another group of players leave the game just cause you wont right someone's wrong? In the past the mistakes of SOE were the reason for people leaving but now you have the power to fix this issue, and not by refunding everyones info. All you need to do is just give blazin a mask, nothing more, nothing less. It will do nothing and it wont cause any problems.

Blazin is so mad right now that he might leave, dispite most of the community backing him up there isn't much we can do. For someone that works so hard to get something that he is promised  and then doesn't get it only gets shafted as SOE tries to please the rest of Recursion, the only thing that would please Recursion is giving blazin the mask, 30 million info is nothing and if I do get the refund, trust me it's going to blazin. I'd perfer if in the future, these problems be handled alittle better, perhaps more time should have been taken on the matter and SOE was just to quick to say no you cannot have your prize....

Reconsider your answer SOE or I feel a few players might be leaving in the near future over something so stupid as a prank...

After /random-gate, the weapons were replaced with Brewko Dolls.  I myself felt they should have been given a Perp to replace the weapon but thats beside the point.  Handing out 'valuable' items would cause problems in the future incase anyone else gets messed over or something.  I do think he should get the Mask though, I'm just trying to look at it from the CSR point of view too.

Oh your all about the rules butwhen. He doesn't get what you want that's unfair? Refunds were given and set the way it was before the event. Now QQ

After /random-gate, the weapons were replaced with Brewko Dolls.  I myself felt they should have been given a Perp to replace the weapon but thats beside the point.  Handing out 'valuable' items would cause problems in the future incase anyone else gets messed over or something.  I do think he should get the Mask though, I'm just trying to look at it from the CSR point of view too.

Actually, we both got a little more than Brewko dolls but I do see what you're getting at. Personally I believe that because he went through all that he does deserve the Mask. It really wouldn't be fair if he got thrown a couple of rewards like Brewko dolls after he went through the whole tournament and it's participants, unlike myself and Rik because we didn't actually "earn" the FM-1500's but were given them due to a /random competition, Blazin however has in my eyes and many others earned the Mask and he should get what he fought for.

Also GQ, Viva la Revolution!

Got my $i30Mill back, 'feelin fine.

Its only virtual money guys.

You all do know this is a video game and not real money and items that I can use in the real world? Yall got scammed on an epic level. That doesnt mean the kid needs to get a mask. People get scammed on the net all the time that does not mean they really should become the kind of some african country or however that email scam goes. That stuff does and sadly did happen here. Sorry yall all took the bait but as along as you got your money back then I do agree with SOE for once. Otherwise I want a free PS3 and Xbox360 like the sites ADVERTISE I WILL GET. This is all my opinion. You dont have to agree.

AltDimension wrote:

Got my $i30Mill back, 'feelin fine.

Its only virtual money guys.

Well said.

MarsNova wrote:

You all do know this is a video game and not real money and items that I can use in the real world? Yall got scammed on an epic level. That doesnt mean the kid needs to get a mask. People get scammed on the net all the time that does not mean they really should become the kind of some african country or however that email scam goes. That stuff does and sadly did happen here. Sorry yall all took the bait but as along as you got your money back then I do agree with SOE for once. Otherwise I want a free PS3 and Xbox360 like the sites ADVERTISE I WILL GET. This is all my opinion. You dont have to agree.

What he said.

Easy for you three to say; you didn't win.

I see it from both sides. I don't think SOE can resolve the issue with what we would consider justice, even though they have every right to do so if they choose. It would open the door, however, to future situations where people would perpetrate an opportunity to scam an item/money from SOE itself.

HutchieJNR wrote:

AltDimension wrote:

Got my $i30Mill back, 'feelin fine.

Its only virtual money guys.

Well said.

MarsNova wrote:

You all do know this is a video game and not real money and items that I can use in the real world? Yall got scammed on an epic level. That doesnt mean the kid needs to get a mask. People get scammed on the net all the time that does not mean they really should become the kind of some african country or however that email scam goes. That stuff does and sadly did happen here. Sorry yall all took the bait but as along as you got your money back then I do agree with SOE for once. Otherwise I want a free PS3 and Xbox360 like the sites ADVERTISE I WILL GET. This is all my opinion. You dont have to agree.

What he said.

Easy for you three to say; you didn't win.

I see it from both sides. I don't think SOE can resolve the issue with what we would consider justice, even though they have every right to do so if they choose. It would open the door, however, to future situations where people would perpetrate an opportunity to scam an item/money from SOE itself.

I see it from both sides. I don't think SOE can resolve the issue with what we would consider justice, even though they have every right to do so if they choose. It would open the door, however, to future situations where people would perpetrate an opportunity to scam an item/money from SOE itself.

ShiXinFeng wrote:

I see it from both sides. I don't think SOE can resolve the issue with what we would consider justice, even though they have every right to do so if they choose. It would open the door, however, to future situations where people would perpetrate an opportunity to scam an item/money from SOE itself.

The most we can do is try to put things back to the way they were before it happened and try to make sure it doesn't happen again (which is a feat unto itself). Unfortunately, there are no easy feel good solutions to situations such as these (even when it appears that there is). It is always sad when a few can bring so many people despair and bad feelings into an environment that should be about having fun.

AltDimension wrote:

Got my $i30Mill back, 'feelin fine.

Its only virtual money guys.

Well said.

MarsNova wrote:

You all do know this is a video game and not real money and items that I can use in the real world? Yall got scammed on an epic level. That doesnt mean the kid needs to get a mask. People get scammed on the net all the time that does not mean they really should become the kind of some african country or however that email scam goes. That stuff does and sadly did happen here. Sorry yall all took the bait but as along as you got your money back then I do agree with SOE for once. Otherwise I want a free PS3 and Xbox360 like the sites ADVERTISE I WILL GET. This is all my opinion. You dont have to agree.

What he said.

HutchieJNR wrote:

AltDimension wrote:

Got my $i30Mill back, 'feelin fine.

Its only virtual money guys.

Well said.

MarsNova wrote:

You all do know this is a video game and not real money and items that I can use in the real world? Yall got scammed on an epic level. That doesnt mean the kid needs to get a mask. People get scammed on the net all the time that does not mean they really should become the kind of some african country or however that email scam goes. That stuff does and sadly did happen here. Sorry yall all took the bait but as along as you got your money back then I do agree with SOE for once. Otherwise I want a free PS3 and Xbox360 like the sites ADVERTISE I WILL GET. This is all my opinion. You dont have to agree.

What he said.

And yet you pay real life monies to see these things on a monthly basis.

ReProgrammed wrote:

HutchieJNR wrote:

AltDimension wrote:

Got my $i30Mill back, 'feelin fine.

Its only virtual money guys.

Well said.

MarsNova wrote:

You all do know this is a video game and not real money and items that I can use in the real world? Yall got scammed on an epic level. That doesnt mean the kid needs to get a mask. People get scammed on the net all the time that does not mean they really should become the kind of some african country or however that email scam goes. That stuff does and sadly did happen here. Sorry yall all took the bait but as along as you got your money back then I do agree with SOE for once. Otherwise I want a free PS3 and Xbox360 like the sites ADVERTISE I WILL GET. This is all my opinion. You dont have to agree.

What he said.

And yet you pay real life monies to see these things on a monthly basis.

Yea per month to play a game. I would never buy fake money with real money or a virtual item with real money. I pay for enjoyment not drama otherwise I would turn on TNT they do know drama. Plus you cant use that item or $info in the real world.

Who else has a mask on Recursion?