Assassin's Mask name change...

SolidRevolver · 05/31/2008 17:01:27

Seeing as there are 21 Hallowe'en Masks and it would be more work to change all those names, I thought it would be easier to change the name of the 'Assassin's Mask' to something else (How about 'Porcelain Mask' SMILEY or more likely 'Assassin's Facemask' SMILEY this would in turn prevent confusion between the two items and also prevent people exploiting this similarity.

(Keep this civil)

Ballak · 05/31/2008 17:04:53

How about, Assassin Halloween Mask.

SolidRevolver · 05/31/2008 17:09:42

I'm fine with that, as long as there is a strong distinction between the two and no confusion can be caused. But to keep the 21 Hallowe'en masks similar, all the other should have 'Hallowe'en' entered in the middle too, so they all match.

Asa · 05/31/2008 18:39:07

Haha yeah cos this 'confusion' is going to be a regular occurance.

Kybutra · 05/31/2008 18:41:54

After the first Comic he did, I wouldn't of believed him.

Remixermike · 05/31/2008 18:54:19

I would find it very hard to get them confused with each other o_o there both diff icons and one shows buffs and the other doesnt o.O But a name change couldnt hurt

The Leo · 05/31/2008 18:57:19

Hmm too bad we always seem to use the umbrellas after the storms.

Endomorph · 06/01/2008 03:34:45

Changing the Halloween version to the "Halloween Assassin Mask" sounds a winner, anyway im sure that tourney was a one off waste of devs time imo

Croesis · 06/01/2008 06:32:03

I have to agree with Endo, In normal situations those who have the masks know that they have them and will be able to tell the difference (aren't the icons different too?) those who don't are unlikely to see an assassin mask on the market. It's like recycling or selling items, if you pay attention to what you are buying/selling/recycling/trading then you won't have any problems, although I guess the people who may have this problem are newbies who don't know any better...

In situations as recently seen... I guess a name change would be appropriate...

Ballak · 06/01/2008 09:07:06

Vinia wrote:

I have to agree with Endo, In normal situations those who have the masks know that they have them and will be able to tell the difference (aren't the icons different too?) those who don't are unlikely to see an assassin mask on the market. It's like recycling or selling items, if you pay attention to what you are buying/selling/recycling/trading then you won't have any problems, although I guess the people who may have this problem are newbies who don't know any better...

In situations as recently seen... I guess a name change would be appropriate...

If you read the thread it showed every single detail about the Assassin's Mask.

Croesis · 06/01/2008 09:43:32

Ballak wrote:

Vinia wrote:
I have to agree with Endo, In normal situations those who have the masks know that they have them and will be able to tell the difference (aren't the icons different too?) those who don't are unlikely to see an assassin mask on the market. It's like recycling or selling items, if you pay attention to what you are buying/selling/recycling/trading then you won't have any problems, although I guess the people who may have this problem are newbies who don't know any better...

In situations as recently seen... I guess a name change would be appropriate...
If you read the thread it showed every single detail about the Assassin's Mask.

Yes, I'm sure it did, quite unnecessarily so if the winner was to win the Assassin Mask. The only reason why the details on the Assassin's Mask was in there was to encourage people to take part and to enforce the illusion of what was on offer. Yes there is the highly important "'s" in the name but people do tend to make spelling/grammar mistakes on the forums.

That was a lesson to everyone about checking the fine print and a good example of how to *CENSORED* off a big section of the games player base.

Zudrag · 06/01/2008 10:32:08

Maybe people should just read more carefully.

I don't think it should be changed to accommodate those who lack the time to read things properly.

Kawari · 06/01/2008 10:59:46

People should read between the lines, however posting images of the Assassin's Mask IS false advertisement since you obviously had no intent on giving it up.

I could really care less about these mask's. However, I CAN appreciate the plot and situation at hand -- it's not fair to trick people out of such !Info. If it had happened to you, you would be acting the same way, feeling taken advantage of and wanting something to do about it. You can sit there and reply No, I would Lulz and say GF blah blah, the truth is you would be pissed.

In the end, the !Info should be given back to the player's since this was a CLEAR case of fasle advertisement.

--

here here, to Assassin Halloween Mask.

ZippyTheSquirrel · 06/01/2008 11:04:57

Clearly, people cannot tell the difference between the Assassin Mask and the Assassin's Mask. Therefore, I propose we change the Assassin Mask to the Assassin's Mask and the Assassin's Mask to the Assassin Mask so that people can tell them apart.

odj · 06/01/2008 11:07:09

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

Clearly, people cannot tell the difference between the Assassin Mask and the Assassin's Mask. Therefore, I propose we change the Assassin Mask to the Assassin's Mask and the Assassin's Mask to the Assassin Mask so that people can tell them apart.

O_O

Ok now I am confused.

Croesis · 06/01/2008 11:08:18

I think it's clear he meant that to be non constructive...

ZippyTheSquirrel · 06/01/2008 11:10:40

odj wrote:

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Clearly, people cannot tell the difference between the Assassin Mask and the Assassin's Mask. Therefore, I propose we change the Assassin Mask to the Assassin's Mask and the Assassin's Mask to the Assassin Mask so that people can tell them apart.
O_O

Ok now I am confused.

How can you be confused? It's so simple!

The Assassin's Mask is the Assassin's Mask that the Assassin wore as a mask, and the Assassin Mask is the Assassin's Mask any Assassin can mask. My proposal is to make the Assassin's Mask the Assassin Mask so that the Assassin Mask is clearly distinguished as the Assassin's Mask and the Assassin's Mask just as easy to tell to be simply the Assassin's Mask.

Vinia wrote:

I think it's clear he meant that to be non constructive...

I'm a constructive non-destructive construction construction.

Croesis · 06/01/2008 11:13:08

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

I'm a constructive non-destructive construction construction.

Now I'm confused....

At least it was on topic though...

odj · 06/01/2008 11:16:29

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

odj wrote:
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Clearly, people cannot tell the difference between the Assassin Mask and the Assassin's Mask. Therefore, I propose we change the Assassin Mask to the Assassin's Mask and the Assassin's Mask to the Assassin Mask so that people can tell them apart.
O_O

Ok now I am confused.
How can you be confused? It's so simple!

The Assassin's Mask is the Assassin's Mask that the Assassin wore as a mask, and the Assassin Mask is the Assassin's Mask any Assassin can mask. My proposal is to make the Assassin's Mask the Assassin Mask so that the Assassin Mask is clearly distinguished as the Assassin's Mask and the Assassin's Mask just as easy to tell to be simply the Assassin's Mask.

ZippyTheSquirrel · 06/01/2008 11:17:53

Vinia wrote:

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
I'm a constructive non-destructive construction construction.

Now I'm confused....

I'm constructive in that I am able to post my point. (The point is that it's ridiculous to force an item name change [edit: based on a possible one-time event at any rate])

I am non-destructive in that I don't attempt to de-rail the thread with off-topic posts.

I build my posts out of laughter.

I am a being.

:D

But for a more serious attempt... Iunno, Halloween Assassin Mask is too long. Why not "Mask of the Assassin" for the uber item and keep the Halloween item's name? I vote for not changing it, but if needs be, Mask of the Assassin '08!

Croesis · 06/01/2008 11:22:44

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

I'm constructive in that I am able to post my point. (The point is that it's ridiculous to force an item name change)

I am non-destructive in that I don't attempt to de-rail the thread with off-topic posts.

I build my posts out of laughter.

I am a being.

But for a more serious attempt... Iunno, Halloween Assassin Mask is too long. Why not "Mask of the Assassin" for the uber item and keep the Halloween item's name? I vote for not changing it, but if needs be, Mask of the Assassin '08!

Shouldn't it then be: I'm a constructive non-destructive construction constructor?

I like that name and I agree that the name really shouldn't be changed but its obviously far too easy for people to mistake one for the other, especially on forums where spelling and grammar mistakes are plentiful...

ZippyTheSquirrel · 06/01/2008 11:25:02

Vinia wrote:

Shouldn't it then be: I'm a constructive non-destructive construction constructor?

No, the second construction implies that I am a solid being built for a purpose. I applaud your attempt though; you would make a fine Squirrel Logictician given enough practice.

...okay, now I'm off topic. ;)

Croesis · 06/01/2008 11:27:15

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

Vinia wrote:
Shouldn't it then be: I'm a constructive non-destructive construction constructor?
No, the second construction implies that I am a solid being built for a purpose. I applaud your attempt though; you would make a fine Squirrel Logictician given enough practice.

...okay, now I'm off topic.

So you're last post would make you a "constructive destructive construction construction"? And myself too I guess SMILEY

ZippyTheSquirrel · 06/01/2008 11:48:30

Vinia wrote:

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Vinia wrote:
Shouldn't it then be: I'm a constructive non-destructive construction constructor?
No, the second construction implies that I am a solid being built for a purpose. I applaud your attempt though; you would make a fine Squirrel Logictician given enough practice.

...okay, now I'm off topic. " />
So you're last post would make you a "constructive destructive construction construction"? And myself too I guess " />

No, now I'm a non-constructive destructive construction obstruction.

Ballak · 06/01/2008 11:59:34

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

Vinia wrote:
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Vinia wrote:
Shouldn't it then be: I'm a constructive non-destructive construction constructor?
No, the second construction implies that I am a solid being built for a purpose. I applaud your attempt though; you would make a fine Squirrel Logictician given enough practice.

...okay, now I'm off topic. ">
So you're last post would make you a "constructive destructive construction construction"? And myself too I guess ">
No, now I'm a non-constructive destructive construction obstruction.

Stop. Just, stop.

Lezel · 06/01/2008 12:37:07

Ballak wrote:

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Vinia wrote:
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Vinia wrote:
Shouldn't it then be: I'm a constructive non-destructive construction constructor?
No, the second construction implies that I am a solid being built for a purpose. I applaud your attempt though; you would make a fine Squirrel Logictician given enough practice.

...okay, now I'm off topic. ">
So you're last post would make you a "constructive destructive construction construction"? And myself too I guess ">
No, now I'm a non-constructive destructive construction obstruction.
Stop. Just, stop.

No wai..he was about to become a non-constructive ,destructive ,construction ,obstruction , reconstructed

Ballak · 06/01/2008 12:41:51

Lezel wrote:

Ballak wrote:
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Vinia wrote:
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Vinia wrote:
Shouldn't it then be: I'm a constructive non-destructive construction constructor?
No, the second construction implies that I am a solid being built for a purpose. I applaud your attempt though; you would make a fine Squirrel Logictician given enough practice.

...okay, now I'm off topic. ">
So you're last post would make you a "constructive destructive construction construction"? And myself too I guess ">
No, now I'm a non-constructive destructive construction obstruction.
Stop. Just, stop.

No wai..he was about to become a non-constructive ,destructive ,construction ,obstruction , reconstructed

And this pertains to the original poster's intentions.. how?

Oh wait, it doesn't.

TheShickle · 06/01/2008 15:27:10

Anome Mask = Anome Disguise.
Assassin Mask = Assassin Disguise.

What Vinia wrote regarding misconceptions due to grammar and whatnot is a valid point, however that does not "justify" what happened with the participants who expected to receive the Assassin's Mask. Perhaps from now on this will encourage people to read more carefully, or even serve as the catalyst for people learning the difference, and not put such blind faith in such a simple circle-jerk.

If this event does encourage a renaming of either item, which may be uneccessary, perhaps it should change the item itself so the Assassin Mask does not become ostracized from the other Halloween masks.

On a side note: Assassin's mask luggable.

EDIT: Forgot the 's on my side note... hehe.

XXT · 06/01/2008 17:59:02

I think its fine the way it is. People really just need to learn to type them correctly.

ArchDuke · 06/01/2008 18:34:51

TheShickle wrote:

Anome Mask = Anome Disguise.
Assassin Mask = Assassin Disguise.

This. It's the easiest way to change it and it make sense.

On a side note: Assassin's mask luggable.

Yes! There could even be sidestory with it.

"One of the operatives that defeated the Assassin has lost the mask! Those that find it can wear it but are susceptible to PVP while wearing it"

I think that's a novel idea Shickle.