Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:

20 posts · 2008-03-21 08:42:00 to 2008-03-22 18:42:00

#36300428471 03/21/2008 08:42 Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
Thats not the problem, you can get to it, in fact you can stand right on top of it, but you are unable to interact with it.

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#36300428941 03/21/2008 15:58:20 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
Avalod wrote:
MotorZ wrote:
I nearly killed nightslife while both him and officerman were attacking me. It was one of the most hilarious fights I'd ever had because of me getting nightslife down to 10 hp while in a 2 on 1 fight. I did have neo frag, pda box, and smith virion though. SMILEY If you kill them both, they usually leave for awhile if you got a group (of even just 2) to kill them and take the tap.
Actually Hate ta break it but. After doing some rouge info farmer hunting. I found officerman. She was atop a building and so i decided wait until she was out of MShadow and taping. HJ up to her area. Root her. Shoot her dead. but before hand I had nightslife pm me saying to stop killing me and such. Soon then He gave in and letting officerman died saying to kill me and such. i denied and said id savor this moment. While her kept trying to IL me. Sad thing is a ran a bit a distance. He went right back to info farming





Think that explains enough. Have more also. But thoguht id just like to point out. Officerman and Nightslife are both the same person. One is just a Male RSI, and the Other is Female. As in to try and throw people off
I'd wondered about that.
#36300428964 03/21/2008 16:08:08 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
The construct is made to make info. Some people do farm alot in there! Many games have PvE content and of course they farm that, what's wrong here?

2 people cannot take a group, and that will be enough to kill. If you cannot kill 2 simple people, then you really should practice pvp before farming.

I just don't understand the issue with farming, just like everyone else did when DM first came.

TH
#36300429016 03/21/2008 16:36:03 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
Sneaker wrote:
On Recursion, there are two info farmers always in datamine. And what they'll do, if they die and have the datatap, is wait before reconning, until their info farming buddy darlin...erm...anonymous1 is ready to pick it up when her buddy geag...erm...anonymous2 recons. They leap-frog this, over and over and over, ensuring control of one datatap at all times.
The ones on Syntax do this too. 

By the way, I've seen nightslife and officerman work together to kill people so I'm pretty sure they're different people.. at least some of the time. 

I'm gonna go kill them now. 
#36300429035 03/21/2008 16:39:22 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
No, I'm convinced they're still the same person. I was subject to their defensive tactics earlier today. I almost kill one of them, then the other interlocks me while the first gets their health back. There's a definite break in activity between the two: when one's doing something, the other one is inactive.
#36300429052 03/21/2008 16:44:20 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:

TheHidden01 wrote
The construct is made to make info

Indeed it is, and no one's trying to say that the players just trying to make info for themselves are in the wrong somehow.

But when a person spends every waking hour of every waking day inside of datamine farming over, and over, and over, what do you think they're doing with that info?

All naivity aside, lets just flat out say it: they're selling it online. This is a violation of just about every MMORPG's EULA, including MxO's.

Of course, those who benefit from this practice don't tend to see it as wrong, hence my previously mentioned stance of not listening to that particular demographic.

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#36300429139 03/21/2008 17:44:34 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
Sneaker wrote:

TheHidden01 wrote
The construct is made to make info

Indeed it is, and no one's trying to say that the players just trying to make info for themselves are in the wrong somehow.

But when a person spends every waking hour of every waking day inside of datamine farming over, and over, and over, what do you think they're doing with that info?

All naivity aside, lets just flat out say it: they're selling it online. This is a violation of just about every MMORPG's EULA, including MxO's.

Of course, those who benefit from this practice don't tend to see it as wrong, hence my previously mentioned stance of not listening to that particular demographic.


Not only that, but those practices cause serious inflation in any MMO's economy.  Ever wonder why some of the best gear in other game cost upwards to 100 million or more?  currency farmers are the reason for it.  Not only do these people create inflation, they also hurt the games you like to play by way of sharing accounts or charge-backs (more about them here http://www.massively.com/2008/01/14...n-smedley-pt-2/).  This actually causes the MMO companies money in the long term which is why some decide to raise their rates to cover the extra cost.

Anyone who plays the game legit, should feel very outraged when hearing of info farmers and not feel shamed. 
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#36300429154 03/21/2008 17:58:08 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
We know they are sellers, but how can we prove it to a CSR?
#36300429177 03/21/2008 18:28:31 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
ZaneZavin wrote:
We know they are sellers, but how can we prove it to a CSR?


Simple really

Have people check them (you'll need a few people to cover a 24 hour shift) on /who in datamine at the top of every hour.  Screenshot everything.

If they're online continuously and consistantly, it's more than likely that people are taking shifts on those characters.

Get in their faces and kill them.  Log every conversation.

Once you have enough evidence, report it.

#36300429181 03/21/2008 18:38:15 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
Trayden wrote:
Sneaker wrote:

TheHidden01 wrote
The construct is made to make info

Indeed it is, and no one's trying to say that the players just trying to make info for themselves are in the wrong somehow.

But when a person spends every waking hour of every waking day inside of datamine farming over, and over, and over, what do you think they're doing with that info?

All naivity aside, lets just flat out say it: they're selling it online. This is a violation of just about every MMORPG's EULA, including MxO's.

Of course, those who benefit from this practice don't tend to see it as wrong, hence my previously mentioned stance of not listening to that particular demographic.


Not only that, but those practices cause serious inflation in any MMO's economy.  Ever wonder why some of the best gear in other game cost upwards to 100 million or more?  currency farmers are the reason for it.  Not only do these people create inflation, they also hurt the games you like to play by way of sharing accounts or charge-backs (more about them here http://www.massively.com/2008/01/14...n-smedley-pt-2/).  This actually causes the MMO companies money in the long term which is why some decide to raise their rates to cover the extra cost.

Anyone who plays the game legit, should feel very outraged when hearing of info farmers and not feel shamed. 

Wait a second, so your saying that farming... which with the addition of this construct enhances is wrong. So everyone should drop farming?

As far as I knew this game has different ways in which you can enjoy it, farming rare items, or info for items, or even a friend is wrong? Should we therefore ban CQ farming for other people cos it ruins the gamers e-peens?

If I gave a new friend, 1bil, that I spent hundreds of hours farming... am I wrong?

If they want to farm let them, it's the same as PvPing in my eyes.

TH
#36300429184 03/21/2008 18:44:30 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
Okay I just read that thread, and I was surprised at the cards, but unfortunately it is a fact, ESPECIALLY with DM, and then the talk of the cut in info, that genuinly farmed to make as much as they could. At the end of the day there is legit people farming, and who are we to say who is who. For all you know I could have said to Geaglewell, and Darling, both in my faction, to help the faction make a billion info... yet you never question these things do you SMILEY

If evidence is there that strange info transfers are being made then so be it.

P.S Before you get high on the info farming for Faction funds, A) Many factions do it, B) It's not  true, and C) Before an MA league I farm billions.

TH
#36300429252 03/21/2008 20:46:15 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
In this case, if you simply engage them in conversation they'll tell you all about it.  All we need is a GM/CSR to jump on a normal-looking character and pretend like they're datamining too. 
#36300429257 03/21/2008 20:56:05 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
GypsyJuggler wrote:
In this case, if you simply engage them in conversation they'll tell you all about it.  All we need is a GM/CSR to jump on a normal-looking character and pretend like they're datamining too. 

CSR's should be able to pull the chat log and thats enough proof I would think especially if multiple people get them to admit they are info farmers.
#36300429259 03/21/2008 20:58:50 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
Kybutra wrote:
GypsyJuggler wrote:
In this case, if you simply engage them in conversation they'll tell you all about it.  All we need is a GM/CSR to jump on a normal-looking character and pretend like they're datamining too. 

CSR's should be able to pull the chat log and thats enough proof I would think especially if multiple people get them to admit they are info farmers.
Wait they don't talk to you when you say '*CENSORED* ARE DOING!!!'

I wouldn't reply, especially from the above shots.

TH
#36300429267 03/21/2008 21:16:00 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
lol that this thread was up all day but nothing happened...except for everytime I went in, a group of people were always going for the kill
#36300429274 03/21/2008 21:30:27 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
ThHidden01 wrote:
Trayden wrote:
Sneaker wrote:

TheHidden01 wrote
The construct is made to make info

Indeed it is, and no one's trying to say that the players just trying to make info for themselves are in the wrong somehow.

But when a person spends every waking hour of every waking day inside of datamine farming over, and over, and over, what do you think they're doing with that info?

All naivity aside, lets just flat out say it: they're selling it online. This is a violation of just about every MMORPG's EULA, including MxO's.

Of course, those who benefit from this practice don't tend to see it as wrong, hence my previously mentioned stance of not listening to that particular demographic.


Not only that, but those practices cause serious inflation in any MMO's economy.  Ever wonder why some of the best gear in other game cost upwards to 100 million or more?  currency farmers are the reason for it.  Not only do these people create inflation, they also hurt the games you like to play by way of sharing accounts or charge-backs (more about them here http://www.massively.com/2008/01/14...n-smedley-pt-2/).  This actually causes the MMO companies money in the long term which is why some decide to raise their rates to cover the extra cost.

Anyone who plays the game legit, should feel very outraged when hearing of info farmers and not feel shamed. 

Wait a second, so your saying that farming... which with the addition of this construct enhances is wrong. So everyone should drop farming?

As far as I knew this game has different ways in which you can enjoy it, farming rare items, or info for items, or even a friend is wrong? Should we therefore ban CQ farming for other people cos it ruins the gamers e-peens?

If I gave a new friend, 1bil, that I spent hundreds of hours farming... am I wrong?

If they want to farm let them, it's the same as PvPing in my eyes.

TH

No, you misunderstand, and I probably wasn't clear.  The thing I'm being annoyed by isn't the act of farming, but more so the act of currency farmers farming and then selling the game currency for real money.  if you can farm 1 billion, on your own, without sharing your account, without exploiting, buying an account from ebay, or purchasing the in-game currency, then great.  That's wonderful and I hope you enjoy it, however once you cross that line, I'll start shouting for your permanent ban.

I'll give you an example.  I've been playing Lineage 2 for the past year.  I'm having tons of fun and found an incredible faction, however the game's economy is seriously screwed.  Everything costs so much to buy.  Low grade weapons easily cost 1.2 million and you can buy them in town shops.  Potions are 600 a pop, and armor is just as bad.  Currently I'm level 40 and I just started finding about 600 bucks on the mobs I can kill, which doesn't buy a lot.  However there are ways to make money and I have to do it if I want to buy armor as I progress through the game and upgrade my stuff.  I've seen a weapon that's the best in the game be sold for 220 million easily.  About a month ago someone was selling a top weapon for 1.5 Billion!  Plus it's a known fact that bots run around and farm.  I've seen them in that game. My guild has killed many of them, but as long as people ebay and pay real money for currecny this trend won't stop and everything will keep getting expensive.
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#36300429392 03/22/2008 03:39 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
I spent the better part of an hour chasing down these *CENSORED* holes, trying to get the one luggable they didn't bug so that maybe I can take advantage and try out the stupid content they put in this game. I kill one the other comes and gets it I almost kill that one and they play with the elevator going up and down the floors till the other gets back and they trade off then I kill that one and it starts over. I don't mind because well its the way of things and at least the thing isn't bugged so I got a shot right? I even tried to communicate, maybe they are having fun or something in the game? Well it ends like this. They put the 2nd one with the first so nobody can use the god *CENSORED* things. Can we ban them for taking advantage of a obvious bug which is an exploit?


#36300429759 03/22/2008 18:42 Re:Info famers bugging the Datatap luggable:
I think that's enough.

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