[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08

22 posts · 2008-03-05 21:16:14 to 2008-03-08 07:39:36

#36300420399 03/05/2008 21:16:14 [9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08

 
He is a clever man... This match may prove to be an interesting one after all.
 
 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
#36300420421 03/05/2008 21:59:13 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08

I just get this feeling from Carlyne that I can't trust anything that he says. He's certainly not telling the whole story. Can't wait to see how this all unfolds.

#36300420426 03/05/2008 22:06:35 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
Steelle wrote:

I just get this feeling from Carlyne that I can't trust anything that he says. He's certainly not telling the whole story. Can't wait to see how this all unfolds.


Indeed. Though as with Halborn, what reason would he have to do so, when they feel that each and every need within the capabilities of the majority of Operatives active in the Simulation is being met, without?

#36300420427 03/05/2008 22:07:37 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
.... Am I the only one who thinks his line about "Its like a little piece of history's been polished up and set aside in a jar for safekeeping, isn't it"

Meant something other then our perpetual 1999 bit?

#36300420429 03/05/2008 22:10:39 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
hmm, what did you take it to be NightTrace?
#36300420433 03/05/2008 22:14:16 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
I'm not sure, but there are things about it that just...ring odd to me.

Lets put some facts/ideas out there together.

Fact: The "Intruders" are freeborn humans.

Fact: Their now in the simulation.

Fact: Their RSI's show up in wire-frame mode because the base coding of them is DIFFERENT then the simulations.

Idea: There is human civilization outside the control of the Machines, outside of Zion. [by civilization, I mean cities etc]

Idea: Its been there for quite a while.

Idea: There is still a Truce, albeit not with us human population in the simulation.

Idea: Thats why they don't simply steamroll whatever location the Intruders physical form is [the one that isn't dead].

Idea: If any of the "ideas" are true. /whoa
#36300420485 03/06/2008 00:23:13 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
I agree - there's something outside of what we know.

Literally.

"The Source"
#36300420492 03/06/2008 00:51:28 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
NightTrace wrote:
I'm not sure, but there are things about it that just...ring odd to me.

Lets put some facts/ideas out there together.

Fact: The "Intruders" are freeborn humans.

Fact: Their now in the simulation.

Fact: Their RSI's show up in wire-frame mode because the base coding of them is DIFFERENT then the simulations.

Idea: There is human civilization outside the control of the Machines, outside of Zion. [by civilization, I mean cities etc]

Idea: Its been there for quite a while.

Idea: There is still a Truce, albeit not with us human population in the simulation.

Idea: Thats why they don't simply steamroll whatever location the Intruders physical form is [the one that isn't dead].

Idea: If any of the "ideas" are true. /whoa
That's part of what we've been saying as a basis for Abaddon. It started to become apparent that at some point, people would be outside of what we know of in Zion and the Machine city. The entire Earth wasn't destroyed, and the entire human population wasn't wiped out, necessarily. That maybe, just maybe, there are other places that we've only seen our own little microcosm and have been blind to everything else. Matriculated and The Miller's Tale speak to this idea as well.
#36300420518 03/06/2008 02:47:21 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08

Even though it's correct, and is extremely rare in the English language, the usage of two same exact words one after the other without any punctuation in the middle just drives me up the wall. >_>

 

#36300420603 03/06/2008 06:01:04 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
NightTrace wrote:
I'm not sure, but there are things about it that just...ring odd to me.

Lets put some facts/ideas out there together.

Fact: The "Intruders" are freeborn humans.

Fact: Their now in the simulation.

Fact: Their RSI's show up in wire-frame mode because the base coding of them is DIFFERENT then the simulations.

Idea: There is human civilization outside the control of the Machines, outside of Zion. [by civilization, I mean cities etc]

Idea: Its been there for quite a while.

Idea: There is still a Truce, albeit not with us human population in the simulation.

Idea: Thats why they don't simply steamroll whatever location the Intruders physical form is [the one that isn't dead].


Idea: If any of the "ideas" are true. /whoa
Are we sure it would only be a truce? They amount of power they have and the machines inability to stop them, in terms of stopping them in the real, seems odd. Even if their was a truce, this kind of activity would obviously be unaceptable. Halborn has killed bluepills after all. No, it almost as if they have a similar degree of power in the real as well. I don't know why or how. Similarly, maybe this group of freeborns is fairly small in population, and are therefore much harder to find. There certainly are ways of not being found.
#36300420639 03/06/2008 07:22:46 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
Ballak wrote:

Even though it's correct, and is extremely rare in the English language, the usage of two same exact words one after the other without any punctuation in the middle just drives me up the wall. >_>


HAH I'm glad I wasn't the only one!!!!
#36300420648 03/06/2008 07:35:45 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
Even if Carlyne does seem too nice to be real, I think he is winning me over!! SMILEY
#36300420652 03/06/2008 07:45:30 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
i dont know, i think Carlyne has his own agenda, possibly playing us all for fools, i don't trust him..
#36300420686 03/06/2008 08:46:27 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
Carlyne is a smoother version of Halborn.  He knows he has to play his cards right to get what he wants.  Halborn has established himself to be rough around the edges and has made a distinct impression on everyone in the matrix.  We have to see how this plays out to find what his true motives are.


The undercurrents going on within this chapter are fascinating to say the least.  I can't wait to see them surface... SMILEY
#36300420806 03/06/2008 11:56:13 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
Steelle wrote:
NightTrace wrote:
I'm not sure, but there are things about it that just...ring odd to me.

Lets put some facts/ideas out there together.

Fact: The "Intruders" are freeborn humans.

Fact: Their now in the simulation.

Fact: Their RSI's show up in wire-frame mode because the base coding of them is DIFFERENT then the simulations.

Idea: There is human civilization outside the control of the Machines, outside of Zion. [by civilization, I mean cities etc]

Idea: Its been there for quite a while.

Idea: There is still a Truce, albeit not with us human population in the simulation.

Idea: Thats why they don't simply steamroll whatever location the Intruders physical form is [the one that isn't dead].


Idea: If any of the "ideas" are true. /whoa
Are we sure it would only be a truce? They amount of power they have and the machines inability to stop them, in terms of stopping them in the real, seems odd. Even if their was a truce, this kind of activity would obviously be unaceptable. Halborn has killed bluepills after all. No, it almost as if they have a similar degree of power in the real as well. I don't know why or how. Similarly, maybe this group of freeborns is fairly small in population, and are therefore much harder to find. There certainly are ways of not being found.
All I am saying without divulging too much of my informants information, is that they have power over the Machines.

Consider it a free sample of the active Information Trade in the matrix.
#36300420825 03/06/2008 12:31:46 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
Seems like Carlyne will not be forcing his way into getting everything, much like Halborn.
#36300420893 03/06/2008 14:14:01 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08

I don't trust him... Carlyne may seem more friendly, but he very well just maybe more cunning in his ways of obtaining what he desires, as some have said before. My guess, Carlyne is going to corrupt the Operatives into thinking he's on our side so we aren't hostile against him, probably help each organization with an assignment of some sort, he'll kill Halborn, and obtain that biological interface program and annihilate us. Or, he won't find the program, became as angry as Halborn, and, annihilate us. Either way, sparkly wire framed faceless dudes who have power greater then some of the Machine Agents? Not exactly sending the message of, trust me I'm kind hearted.

#36300420931 03/06/2008 14:55:36 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
NegativeEight wrote:

I don't trust him... Carlyne may seem more friendly, but he very well just maybe more cunning in his ways of obtaining what he desires, as some have said before. My guess, Carlyne is going to corrupt the Operatives into thinking he's on our side so we aren't hostile against him, probably help each organization with an assignment of some sort, he'll kill Halborn, and obtain that biological interface program and annihilate us. Or, he won't find the program, became as angry as Halborn, and, annihilate us. Either way, sparkly wire framed faceless dudes who have power greater then some of the Machine Agents? Not exactly sending the message of, trust me I'm kind hearted.

I agree to a certain extent.  I'm somehwat wary about trusting this Carlyne so quickly, a silver tongue can be more powerful than the bludgeoning fist.
#36300421023 03/06/2008 17:54:05 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08

You should do the new Mero crit.  :O

Really, we are just spinning our wheels here reacting in this limited simulation while much bigger things are afoot in the Real.  The only ones who can answer some of these questions are the Machines.  This gets to what the Merovingian found when he used the General to explore the pod situation.  It is related.

#36300421272 03/07/2008 06:59:58 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08

Maybe the "piece of history" refers to the Merv's appearance? 

(Who did he base his rsi on, anyway?)

Illyria

#36300421358 03/07/2008 09:30:40 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
Illyria22 wrote:

(Who did he base his rsi on, anyway?)



That actor guy..
#36300421788 03/08/2008 07:39:36 Re:[9.3.2] I congratulate you on your positive attitude, monsieur - Syntax - 3/4/08
Agenda is not a positive word. And since both wireframes have their own, neither are trustworthy, but I have to agree with Tenshi, at least Halborn is "easier" to handle than Cralyne.

Who is more dangerous? The robber who cries out his frustration at the one working in the shop he robs, or the shopworker who takes it in?

- GG