He is a clever man... This match may prove to be an interesting one after all.
22 posts · 2008-03-05 21:16:14 to 2008-03-08 07:39:36
I just get this feeling from Carlyne that I can't trust anything that he says. He's certainly not telling the whole story. Can't wait to see how this all unfolds.
I just get this feeling from Carlyne that I can't trust anything that he says. He's certainly not telling the whole story. Can't wait to see how this all unfolds.
Indeed. Though as with Halborn, what reason would he have to do so, when they feel that each and every need within the capabilities of the majority of Operatives active in the Simulation is being met, without?
I'm not sure, but there are things about it that just...ring odd to me.That's part of what we've been saying as a basis for Abaddon. It started to become apparent that at some point, people would be outside of what we know of in Zion and the Machine city. The entire Earth wasn't destroyed, and the entire human population wasn't wiped out, necessarily. That maybe, just maybe, there are other places that we've only seen our own little microcosm and have been blind to everything else. Matriculated and The Miller's Tale speak to this idea as well.
Lets put some facts/ideas out there together.
Fact: The "Intruders" are freeborn humans.
Fact: Their now in the simulation.
Fact: Their RSI's show up in wire-frame mode because the base coding of them is DIFFERENT then the simulations.
Idea: There is human civilization outside the control of the Machines, outside of Zion. [by civilization, I mean cities etc]
Idea: Its been there for quite a while.
Idea: There is still a Truce, albeit not with us human population in the simulation.
Idea: Thats why they don't simply steamroll whatever location the Intruders physical form is [the one that isn't dead].
Idea: If any of the "ideas" are true. /whoa
Even though it's correct, and is extremely rare in the English language, the usage of two same exact words one after the other without any punctuation in the middle just drives me up the wall. >_>
I'm not sure, but there are things about it that just...ring odd to me.Are we sure it would only be a truce? They amount of power they have and the machines inability to stop them, in terms of stopping them in the real, seems odd. Even if their was a truce, this kind of activity would obviously be unaceptable. Halborn has killed bluepills after all. No, it almost as if they have a similar degree of power in the real as well. I don't know why or how. Similarly, maybe this group of freeborns is fairly small in population, and are therefore much harder to find. There certainly are ways of not being found.
Lets put some facts/ideas out there together.
Fact: The "Intruders" are freeborn humans.
Fact: Their now in the simulation.
Fact: Their RSI's show up in wire-frame mode because the base coding of them is DIFFERENT then the simulations.
Idea: There is human civilization outside the control of the Machines, outside of Zion. [by civilization, I mean cities etc]
Idea: Its been there for quite a while.
Idea: There is still a Truce, albeit not with us human population in the simulation.
Idea: Thats why they don't simply steamroll whatever location the Intruders physical form is [the one that isn't dead].
Idea: If any of the "ideas" are true. /whoa
Even though it's correct, and is extremely rare in the English language, the usage of two same exact words one after the other without any punctuation in the middle just drives me up the wall. >_>


NightTrace wrote:All I am saying without divulging too much of my informants information, is that they have power over the Machines.I'm not sure, but there are things about it that just...ring odd to me.Are we sure it would only be a truce? They amount of power they have and the machines inability to stop them, in terms of stopping them in the real, seems odd. Even if their was a truce, this kind of activity would obviously be unaceptable. Halborn has killed bluepills after all. No, it almost as if they have a similar degree of power in the real as well. I don't know why or how. Similarly, maybe this group of freeborns is fairly small in population, and are therefore much harder to find. There certainly are ways of not being found.
Lets put some facts/ideas out there together.
Fact: The "Intruders" are freeborn humans.
Fact: Their now in the simulation.
Fact: Their RSI's show up in wire-frame mode because the base coding of them is DIFFERENT then the simulations.
Idea: There is human civilization outside the control of the Machines, outside of Zion. [by civilization, I mean cities etc]
Idea: Its been there for quite a while.
Idea: There is still a Truce, albeit not with us human population in the simulation.
Idea: Thats why they don't simply steamroll whatever location the Intruders physical form is [the one that isn't dead].
Idea: If any of the "ideas" are true. /whoa
I don't trust him... Carlyne may seem more friendly, but he very well just maybe more cunning in his ways of obtaining what he desires, as some have said before. My guess, Carlyne is going to corrupt the Operatives into thinking he's on our side so we aren't hostile against him, probably help each organization with an assignment of some sort, he'll kill Halborn, and obtain that biological interface program and annihilate us. Or, he won't find the program, became as angry as Halborn, and, annihilate us. Either way, sparkly wire framed faceless dudes who have power greater then some of the Machine Agents? Not exactly sending the message of, trust me I'm kind hearted.
I agree to a certain extent. I'm somehwat wary about trusting this Carlyne so quickly, a silver tongue can be more powerful than the bludgeoning fist.I don't trust him... Carlyne may seem more friendly, but he very well just maybe more cunning in his ways of obtaining what he desires, as some have said before. My guess, Carlyne is going to corrupt the Operatives into thinking he's on our side so we aren't hostile against him, probably help each organization with an assignment of some sort, he'll kill Halborn, and obtain that biological interface program and annihilate us. Or, he won't find the program, became as angry as Halborn, and, annihilate us. Either way, sparkly wire framed faceless dudes who have power greater then some of the Machine Agents? Not exactly sending the message of, trust me I'm kind hearted.
You should do the new Mero crit. :O
Really, we are just spinning our wheels here reacting in this limited simulation while much bigger things are afoot in the Real. The only ones who can answer some of these questions are the Machines. This gets to what the Merovingian found when he used the General to explore the pod situation. It is related.
Maybe the "piece of history" refers to the Merv's appearance?
(Who did he base his rsi on, anyway?)
Illyria
(Who did he base his rsi on, anyway?)