Different RSIs, Same Person. Why is this a problem?

RemagDiv wrote:

Okay, my fault for misreading that.. it's tough to see with my head floating on the ceiling.

No, but seriously, we are very strict when it comes to dealing with multiple RSI's. We do not allow our members to have the other 2 Recursion slots to be populated with other Organizations and Factions. So we never have problems with Collective leaking intel.

Yes it was NT.

Delicho wrote:

 A friend of mine who has a level 50 zion RSI and a level 50 mech RSI (among others) was told she wasn't welcome to a mech meeting and events by a certain person.  This person even claimed she spoke to and got the approval of a liasion to refuse my friend to attend.

Ah well, i never expected this to happen....i was just kinda confused and a little upset i suppose when i talked to Del, never thought it would kick off all this....and yes the 'friend' in question is me.

I dunno bout anything that happened before, but all i can say is i enjoy events and meetings and interacting with other people, joining in in RP, even if i'm not all that good at it. I guess all this has come as a shock to me, suddenly being cast out and nobody really explaining the reason why. The Liasons don't seem to talk to me anymore, no replies to my email to see what has happened...guess other machines are probably avoiding me too now, and i still don't know why, what exactly i have done wrong.

I don't spy, i don't have alts...i have one main, Dulux. One main in three orgs, everyone knows who i am or can see who i am, there is no secret...i don't tell others about secret meetings, Del can testify to that after he thought i left him out of a secret zion op that some others crashed, i didn't tell anyone about the secret machine op either and did everything by the book, looking forward to experiencing my first mech event (One of the main reasons i levelled a mech to 50 first and not a merv was cause i really wanted to meet Pace and Agents and experience that side of things), but got left out, the liason liying to me seemingly, telling me the event hadn't started (though this is just what it seemed like, i'm not saying this was what happened, cause basically nobody will tell me).

And it's not like i just jack in as my mech for mech events, i've been on my mech way more than my zion the last two and a half months, i stay up till 3 in the morning to attend the meetings i inquired about, i even posted a message on the world disscusion forums trying to get to know the mech community (that to my understanding nobody answered).

So i guess i'd just like to know why?

And i apoligise for creating any ruckass, i just wanna play the game and have fun. 'Surround yourself with good people' was what Father Jonas told me tonight, and thats what i hoped to do.

ChloeAnn wrote:

Oh, and about the whole "a mech couldnt go to a meeting because he had a zion alt" is total poppycock. If Im not mistaken, these Liaisons are other players too, yes? So lets just say that a Mech liasion is a Zion player on another server. Does that mean that he/she cant go to the Zion event because people knew he/she was a Machine liaison? Im not complaining about the liaisons I enteract with. My Cypherite liaisons are the best liaisons, IMO, and I trust their choices, but if I knew that they wouldn't let someone go to an event, just because they have another-org-alt, I'd kinda be upset about that.

As many has said.... this is a game, we pay for it, we should be able to do what we want, and level whatever org we want.

"u guys will never be reel cyphs!!!111!"

Satta wrote:

ThePigeonKing wrote:

Satta wrote:

ThePigeonKing wrote:

imax wrote:

 Cap0ne, you starting to sound full of crap, you weren't ever notified about meetings? I sent you an email every week along with countless other machinists,

HEY BUDDY: L2read. Re-read my post and what I said about being at the meetings.

"What this entire thread boils down to is, you people are upset the The Collective has been and still is a respectful faction who are devoted machinist. Now how does that makes sense."

lol that's not what this post is about at all

You are right that is not what this thread is about, yet you felt it necessary to put us on blast.

Because it's about The Collective and one other person making the decisions of the entire Machine organization not to let people into Machinist Org meetings because of some stupid reason.

Then you failed to read what Illyria wrote.  It was not TC's decision.  All of the machinists present decided that and contrary to popular belief all of them were not TC.

Yeah I read the meeting transcript, lol cyph gets it omg SPYS?!?!, all the people who objected were TC members, nobody else bothered to voice an opinion. TC's the majority so they rule? Well no they don't rule they just make the rules cause someone let them be in charge. I blaim Chambers of Shaloin for leaving the game, at least when they ran it they didn't pull this BS.

~M

Can i just interject here and say please stop arguing, it's getting nobody anywhere and you guys are just saying the same things...and those things aren't getting to the bottom of the issue at hand. And i feel this thread will get locked before i get my answer. Why?

'What do you suggest everyone say?'

Narf?

Satta wrote:

Mitrios wrote:

Satta wrote:

ThePigeonKing wrote:

Satta wrote:

ThePigeonKing wrote:

imax wrote:

 Cap0ne, you starting to sound full of crap, you weren't ever notified about meetings? I sent you an email every week along with countless other machinists,

HEY BUDDY: L2read. Re-read my post and what I said about being at the meetings.

"What this entire thread boils down to is, you people are upset the The Collective has been and still is a respectful faction who are devoted machinist. Now how does that makes sense."

lol that's not what this post is about at all

You are right that is not what this thread is about, yet you felt it necessary to put us on blast.

Because it's about The Collective and one other person making the decisions of the entire Machine organization not to let people into Machinist Org meetings because of some stupid reason.

Then you failed to read what Illyria wrote.  It was not TC's decision.  All of the machinists present decided that and contrary to popular belief all of them were not TC.

Yeah I read the meeting transcript, lol cyph gets it omg SPYS?!?!, all the people who objected were TC members, nobody else bothered to voice an opinion. TC's the majority so they rule? Well no they don't rule they just make the rules cause someone let them be in charge. I blaim Chambers of Shaloin for leaving the game, at least when they ran it they didn't pull this BS.

~M

Another person who neglects to read.  Masterkiller stopped becuase of haters like this.  He was sick and tired of it.  We try to do something for all the machinists and you get little whiners screaming favoritism, yet didn't have the balls to step up and take charge themselves.  Blame yourself not us.

No see moron, I liked masterkiller, I don't like you because you think your better then everyone else. This 4 years bs has gone to your head, just because your the oldest faction doesn't mean your the best just means that you wont go away like a bad smell from an old house that nobody will buy because it smells so bad. Read the replys to this thread from other people. Notice a trend? Nobody likes you because ya'll act like your *poop* don't stink but it stinks twice as bad because you just pile it on so high. Nobody is defending you because nobody likes you. Accept it and move on.

~M

Satta wrote:

Nah when I read this thread I see people crying because TC started something that is actually successful.  That we started something that gets Lesig attention and everyone wants a piece of the action.  When we say know then they scream favoritism and call us elitist.  Quite funny.

Naw see here's were your confusing reality with a dream world. If this was successful nobody would be bitching bout how you run it. If this was successful then there really wouldn't have been a need for this thread would there? O and the elitist bit, if it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and sounds like a duck, Your elitist.

~M

Actually Merrit holds a weekly Zion meeting thats a real treat, Narf

Edit: Need to stop using the same word twice in a sentance.

imax wrote:

Mitrios wrote:

Satta wrote:

Nah when I read this thread I see people crying because TC started something that is actually successful.  That we started something that gets Lesig attention and everyone wants a piece of the action.  When we say know then they scream favoritism and call us elitist.  Quite funny.

Naw see here's were your confusing reality with a dream world. If this was successful nobody would be bitching bout how you run it. If this was successful then there really wouldn't have been a need for this thread would there? O and the elitist bit, if it looks like a duck, acts like a duck, and sounds like a duck, Your elitist.

~M

Most of the people b!tching arent even machinist, so why do they care?

They don't like to see stupid people do stupid things to other players just because they feel they are in charge probably.

~M

Satta wrote:

We are not out to ruin the playing experience for people

Stop doing it so well then.

~M

Ballak wrote:

Please step down from running the meetings and give it to someone who's more neutral, persay the liaisons...

-EDIT

OH WAIT, It's YOUR MEETING you should be able to do, whatever the hell YOU WANT! Regardless if it may "ruin someone else's gameplay" or w/e, you just don't like certain people, and those people are discluded from Live Events. That's *CENSORED* elitism, good sir.

Just say it, "I am an elitist." and this will be all over.

Ding on the nose.

~M

imax wrote:

I cant even begin to point out how sad, and ironic that the players are all worked up over a meeting that was created BY PLAYERS, FOR PLAYERS. This argument is 1000 kinds of stupid. How about if you don't like how the meeting is run then just don't come.

Sweet christ you have no idea whats going on do you.

~M

This thread is reaching critical mass.

EndlessVoid wrote:

Delicho wrote:

It's not always the players choice if people find out.. then run their mouth to something.. etc etc.. and then people tell liasions...

I don't see how a player's alternate identity can get out if they don't tell anyone who they are.

- Void

YOU HUSH NEO, Thats right I knew were neo's alt all along you bastard!

~M

Satta wrote:

Hey genius we have been holding our meetings for two years without liasons showing up.  Just because you say we should turn over the meetings to someone else doesn't mean it will happen.  Someone else is entitled to hold their own meetings whenever the hell they want.  Get that through your head, or admit that TC is the Sh*t and everyone wants to be apart of what we do.  Is that elitist or a fact?  20 plus pages tells me it is fact.

You need to start advertising them as TC's meetings and not Machinist meetings, and no not everyone wants to be a part of your *Sh*t.

~M

Satta wrote:

Mitrios wrote:

Satta wrote:

Hey genius we have been holding our meetings for two years without liasons showing up.  Just because you say we should turn over the meetings to someone else doesn't mean it will happen.  Someone else is entitled to hold their own meetings whenever the hell they want.  Get that through your head, or admit that TC is the Sh*t and everyone wants to be apart of what we do.  Is that elitist or a fact?  20 plus pages tells me it is fact.

You need to start advertising them as TC's meetings and not Machinist meetings, and no not everyone wants to be a part of your *Sh*t.

~M

So here we come full circle huh?  You and others criticized TC for being secretive and holding everything to ourselves.  We open up to the rest and here you sit still b1tching.  At this point we could easily say screw all of ya'll and go back to how we used to do things ourselves.  I don't see Mitrios posting on the boards trying to organize something for machinists.  I don't see Mitrios standing up and taking the lead.  It is much easier to swing from the balls than actually wear some isn't that right Mitrios?  That goes for all you TC haters.  You have a problem with the liasons then you take it up with them.  Don't shoot the messengers who are providing meetings that the liasons have decided to show up to.

If I am not mistaken didn't Naidian create a thread asking for all machinist intel?  If you clowns actually followed the instructions instead of worrying about what TC is doing then you would have all the access you need.

I left the Machinist org because your an elitist moron who only see's his own factions glory, which if this thread is any proof its only perceived glory. If I wanted to do something like that I might have, But like I said I have no interest in you, helping you, being in events with you, being in meetings with you, or being in game with you. Thank god your only on for about 5 minutes a day. Keep your people out of cyph events I'll keep myself out of mech events. Oh and stop pretending to not be elitist, when you say *CENSORED* like "Get that through your head, or admit that TC is the Sh*t and everyone wants to be apart of what we do" your king god of the elitists.

~M

Satta wrote:

Good then you can start by not posting in business concerning TC, like you are in this thread.  You are not a machinist so keep out of it.  And don't pretend like you don't have a huge *CENSORED* ego.  At least I admit I do have one.  Talk to me when someone creates 25 pages about Mitrios and his faction.  Otherwise you can shove it as well. 

Come on guys it is Friday night.  Any other TC haters ready to step up and tell us how they really feel?  Get it off your chests before this gets locked.  It may make you feel better and not so bitter inside about the big bad TC and that loudmouth Sattakan.  Some of the main characters have not been alerted to this thread yet so go hop on xfire and call them up.

lol gg son, people hate you congrats.

Satta wrote:

Mitrios wrote:

Satta wrote:

Good then you can start by not posting in business concerning TC, like you are in this thread.  You are not a machinist so keep out of it.  And don't pretend like you don't have a huge *CENSORED* ego.  At least I admit I do have one.  Talk to me when someone creates 25 pages about Mitrios and his faction.  Otherwise you can shove it as well. 

Come on guys it is Friday night.  Any other TC haters ready to step up and tell us how they really feel?  Get it off your chests before this gets locked.  It may make you feel better and not so bitter inside about the big bad TC and that loudmouth Sattakan.  Some of the main characters have not been alerted to this thread yet so go hop on xfire and call them up.

lol gg son, people hate you congrats.

Let me guess.  Factions like DOE are the only ones allowed the *sshole tags?  Okay, and for the record mate, we have never cared who like us or who didn't.  We jump on people who feel the need to get in our business like you are doing now.  You are complaining because we sponsored a meeting that the liasons come to and you could never pull something like that off.  Instead you join another org supposedly because you couldn't stand us (Thanks for giving us that power over you) and you sit over there and are still concerned about what we do.  Now that is pathetic.  I am going to cry now because oh my god Mitrios hates me.

Thats good, Have a nice evening

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