Independant Organization

19 posts · 2008-01-30 00:52:13 to 2008-02-12 09:09:00

#36300396152 01/30/2008 00:52:13 Independant Organization
No missions, no reputation, no live events, no liasons, and no more work on Rarebit's behalf. Make the org flag to everyone (including other freelancers). This is kind of a no brainer from a PvP perspective, but also incredibly valid from a RP standpoint. Some people don't want in on this war, and some people are sick and tired of all of the blatant favoritism and bureaucracy exhibited in every branch currently available to us, splinter org or no. Just allow factions to be formed.


Pls?
#36300396154 01/30/2008 01:00:06 Re:Independant Organization

This would be great.

#36300396178 01/30/2008 02:51:39 Re:Independant Organization
'Independent Organisation'
#36300396182 01/30/2008 03:03:15 Re:Independant Organization
GypsyJuggler wrote:
'Independent Organisation'
Yeah... you got the first part right, but you spelt 'Organization' wrong.

Edit: Sounds kewl. SMILEY
#36300396188 01/30/2008 03:14:49 Re:Independant Organization
Gerik wrote:
GypsyJuggler wrote:
'Independent Organisation'
Yeah... you got the first part right, but you spelt 'Organization' wrong.

Edit: Sounds kewl. SMILEY" />



Nope, he got Organisation quite correct thankyou. English is English, no matter where you're from SMILEY
#36300396189 01/30/2008 03:16:35 Re:Independant Organization
I agree. An independent organisation would be excellent. SMILEY
#36300396190 01/30/2008 03:18:41 Re:Independant Organization
Nevermind
#36300396193 01/30/2008 03:45:51 Re:Independant Organization

I would love to carry a <SECTION9 - NEUT> tag.

Would you prefer no tag or the neut?

But yeah seeing as i am part of a neutral faction i would love to see something like this implemented.

#36300396196 01/30/2008 04:12:39 Re:Independant Organization
Perhaps this way factions can truly claim that it is them vs the server.
If you are reading this my sig didn't work T_T
#36300396207 01/30/2008 04:59:47 Re:Independant Organization
This would be cool but tough to do, mainly because you'd have to basically make a separate org for each faction. If the neutrals aren't on the same side, that'd probably be tough to pull off. It sounds like faction wars more than anything.
#36300396279 01/30/2008 07:58:23 Re:Independant Organization
./phookin' signed!

I would love this on so many levels!
#36300396285 01/30/2008 08:28:38 Re:Independant Organization

Very unlikely, primarily because it would require that every character in the data base be changed to accomidate the "possibility" of being in these "new" orgs.

Just not really feasible from a technical stand point the danger to existing accounts is at this time an unacceptable risk.

Plus not having a full time DBA to manage our database and do all that work.

#36300396296 01/30/2008 08:48:22 Re:Independant Organization
The database strikes again! SMILEY
#36300396298 01/30/2008 08:50:08 Re:Independant Organization
Procurator wrote:
The database strikes again! SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=
Well, the database is our "source" after all SMILEY" />

That and the fact that if everything was possible and put into place, it could still backfire if not administrated properly and with the demographic in mind. I think it would hurt more than help if we get to a point where we've got 80-85% of the population in "Neut" factions and three or four factions remaining in each of the respective orgs. (both "organization" and "organisation" work, by the way SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=)

The primary reason there are so many sides in the story is for us to find where we stand as individuals and factions and how we fit in the grand scheme of things, which as we can see here presents us with the problem at hand. I think if having an independent group is not going to happen, we should examine what's wrong with the ones that do exist.
#36300396300 01/30/2008 08:56:05 Re:Independant Organization
Pyraci wrote:
That and the fact that if everything was possible and put into place, it could still backfire if not administrated properly and with the demographic in mind. I think it would hurt more than help if we get to a point where we've got 80-85% of the population in "Neut" factions and three or four factions remaining in each of the respective orgs. (both "organization" and "organisation" work, by the way SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />)

The primary reason there are so many sides in the story is for us to find where we stand as individuals and factions and how we fit in the grand scheme of things, which as we can see here presents us with the problem at hand. I think if having an independent group is not going to happen, we should examine what's wrong with the ones that exist.

QFE

The story would likely collapse with every event drowning in a sea of anarchy (certainly on vector but probably everywhere).

#36300396963 01/31/2008 07:23 Re:Independant Organization
I understand the idea from a PvP standpoint, but as far as the storyline goes, that doesn't make a whole lot of since to me.  First of all, an independant is going to get in the way of all the other orgs, and most people are going to want to kill you.  Allright, so you think you are cool enough to handle that?  Well no org is going to want a neutral person to participate in their org meetings, so LE's are out.  No critical missions...Basically, thats it.  Interesting idea for PVP, not so much for storyline (unless you don't mind not receivng crits and LE's.  Of course, the neutral players could just do their own events).
#36300396979 01/31/2008 07:53 Re:Independant Organization
-Collbard- wrote:
I understand the idea from a PvP standpoint, but as far as the storyline goes, that doesn't make a whole lot of since to me.  First of all, an independant is going to get in the way of all the other orgs, and most people are going to want to kill you.  Allright, so you think you are cool enough to handle that?  Well no org is going to want a neutral person to participate in their org meetings, so LE's are out.  No critical missions...Basically, thats it.  Interesting idea for PVP, not so much for storyline (unless you don't mind not receivng crits and LE's.  Of course, the neutral players could just do their own events).


Thats not necessaryily true.  What about factions that want to work with / across multiple orgs.  From an RP point of view it can be quite an interesting place to be.  Now the idea about carrying a Neut tag doesnt illiminate you from working with orgs.. just youre beliefs may be slightly different from one org.. if you get what i mean.  So it would be possible to create alliances on all sides. 

As far as missions etc go, you could use Rep points to gain access to one org.  The downfall here would be that if one player had mach rep they would have machine missions whereas another player could have zion rep.

#36300397089 01/31/2008 10:16 Re:Independant Organization
Criingey wrote:
-Collbard- wrote:
I understand the idea from a PvP standpoint, but as far as the storyline goes, that doesn't make a whole lot of since to me.  First of all, an independant is going to get in the way of all the other orgs, and most people are going to want to kill you.  Allright, so you think you are cool enough to handle that?  Well no org is going to want a neutral person to participate in their org meetings, so LE's are out.  No critical missions...Basically, thats it.  Interesting idea for PVP, not so much for storyline (unless you don't mind not receivng crits and LE's.  Of course, the neutral players could just do their own events).


Thats not necessaryily true.  What about factions that want to work with / across multiple orgs.  From an RP point of view it can be quite an interesting place to be.  Now the idea about carrying a Neut tag doesnt illiminate you from working with orgs.. just youre beliefs may be slightly different from one org.. if you get what i mean.  So it would be possible to create alliances on all sides. 

As far as missions etc go, you could use Rep points to gain access to one org.  The downfall here would be that if one player had mach rep they would have machine missions whereas another player could have zion rep.


My issue is that it is almost impossible to work with more than one org if you take the official sotryline officially.  Zion and the Machines are at War.  That's kill on sight all out War.  Would the machines want to work with someone who is on the opposing side? Not unless they were going to use said person as a spy- same can be said the other way around.  Obviousely most redpills do not see exactly eye-to-eye on every org issue, which is why we have crews and factions.
#36300404764 02/12/2008 09:09 Re:Independant Organization
If you want something different and independant, come and see me on recursion.  It doesn't have to be as difficult as you think.  I need two people willing to helm a branch in two of the three organiZations (<Z-hehe).  This is truly freeing your mind I assure you.