Neo: The One through Prophecy, or...?

Here's the question of discussion I present to you: Was Neo chosen to be The One when he was a lowly bluepill? And if not, when did he become The One, if he ever really was, in terms of programming? Was it all just free will that made him do the things he was able to do? There is a lot of mystery surrounding Thomas Anderson, Neo, and The One that never was explained in the movies or, thus far, this game. So, bake some noodles.




My thoughts: Neo wasn't chosen when he was a bluepill to be the carrier of an Anomaly Code. I think his death (in the hands of Agent Smith), with his will to live (and love) allowed him to force himself back to life. I think Neo touched the Source and it, somehow, spat him back out in the process of having his "data"/RSI deleted. This RSI deletion process wasn't complete and thus brought him back into the simulation in a form ("An Anomaly"" /> that was overpowered and filled with errors.

With the Architect's speech about there being others like Neo in the past (for other versions, or otherwise) it could be possible that others WERE chosen specifically or were programs; but we know Neo was special, and apparently so did the Oracle ("just a feeling" or otherwise; The Oracle possibly testing potential redpills, or testing Neo, in order to end the war). He must have been special enough to end a lengthy war like he did.


What do you think?

What a load of Machine crap.  I find it hard to believe we even watched the same movies.  I disagree completely, but what else is new?

EDIT: I read the linked article as far as I could, which was about three paragraphs.  By that point, the author's inaccuracies and ignorance became nauseating.  Degrees in philosophy and comparative religion should be required before discussing The Matrix trilogy, otherwise... well, the 'net was full of it long before the sequels were done.

Amazing how, every time I post an opinion, in or out of character, it's followed by insults and personal attacks.  I always stay within the TOS/EULA but no one will debate me without resorting to breaking their agreement.  Stop the personal attacks.  Stop the insults.  Debate the issues.  Do what you agree to do every time you log-on the forums.

childish
arrogance
elitism
Crying

Four off-topic insults, all unfounded.

Perhaps I should have quoted ShiXinFeng's points so that it would have been more evident what I was disagreeing with, rather than have people assume I was attacking the poster.

I'm heading over to the SWG forums to start a thread called "Luke: really a Jedi?"  The STO forums will need "Spock: really a half-Vulcan?"  Interesting topic?  More like an obvious absurdity.  Disagreeing with statements which are contradicted in nearly every scene of all three movies shouldn't be that hard to understand.

Roukan wrote:

PS10N wrote:

Amazing how, every time I post an opinion, in or out of character, it's followed by insults and personal attacks.  I always stay within the TOS/EULA but no one will debate me without resorting to breaking their agreement.  Stop the personal attacks.  Stop the insults.  Debate the issues.  Do what you agree to do every time you log-on the forums.

You wrote text in a condescending manner, in a way insulting everyone who posted on this thread agreeing or at least sharing some sort of similar opinion on the first post. You deserve whatever personal attack was thrusted upon you, and furthur by hiding behind the EULA to insult said people when someone decides to speak against you in a manner that isn't hiding behind the TOS/EULA.

If you want debate, I'll be glad to show you errors and logic on xfire after work.

Another misunderstanding on the part of a reader.  I wasn't disagreeing with the first post, which was provocative in that a work of fiction can be so complex and in-depth that someone can question the very origins of a main character nearly 10 years after his first introduction.  I was disagreeing with a later post which was full of opinions contradicted by the films. 

Those who are offended easily or who take insults to heart probably don't stay on any forum for very long because of the vast quantity of messages which are in violation of terms/guidelines, so if you are the type without thick skin, please continue to stay logged in to be offended by my freely spoken opinions.  No one deserves a personal attack no matter what they post, as that is against the TOS.  Expecting people to do what they agree to do isn't "hiding" behind anything, but rather shows the character and moral fiber of those who can't seem to do what they agreed to do.

As for the Xfire comment, I hardly think I'm going to deign to be lectured by a child about logic when I've been mastering logic systems for longer than he's been alive.

I'm continuing to read the posts between my last and this, so the topical issue will be written about at length, including the specific issues from the movies which I didn't have time to elaborate in my first post.  Perhaps if I'd written, "I disagree completely and I'll explain why tomorrow when I have time," then there wouldn't have been such a fiery precipitation.  Also, the second comment in my post wasn't about any post here, but about an external linked article!  So, in the future, take a moment to determine exactly what's being criticized before going on the defensive.

EDIT:  It's becoming increasingly more clear that people seemed to think I was disagreeing with the original post and not the machine opinion posted afterwards.  Future posts will provide more context.

Final EDIT: The insights by ManicV, MotorZ and further detail from ShiXinFeng have me molified - for now.  I still think the forest is being missed for the trees, but I'd better write up a complete essay about it to avoid being called.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and to post it if they choose, even if it is a disagreement with another opinion previously posted.  My opinion was and continues to be that the linked article is full of inaccuracies and ignorance.  Sorry if anyone doesn't like that people who disagree actually do post their opinion, but don't expect it to stop.  By definition I've committed no "ad hominem" because my posts were opinions about ideas, not about the people posting the ideas.  I attacked no one in any way and if you think so, you're mistaken.  The fact that he's younger and less experienced than me is not an insult or an attack, it's merely a fact.  Now I understand why I'm coming under attack so much from you.  It's because I dare to tell the truth unabashedly. Too bad.  You took my remark about needing a degree to discuss The Matrix seriously?!  When someone brings me a computer to fix, which they have obviously botched themselves, I sometimes remark that people should get a degree before being allowed to own a computer, but no one actually thinks I'm serious!  Whoa, you don't know what moral fiber is?  Well, now you have something new to go learn about.  An example of what passes for a logic system for me is the multi-user multi-tasking home automation and security operating system I designed and programmed in machine code for embedded microprocessor devices.  Good enough, rookie? I'm glad to hear you won't be responding, because frankly the time its taking to reply is detracting from the on-topic post being prepared.

More clarifications... "machine opinion" was intended in the sense of "opinion which is biased toward the machines [mechanicals/A.I.]" and was not intended to indicate the Machine organization of Redpills.  Roukan, I probably mistook that you wanted to debate about forum decorum while you probably meant a debate about Neo/The One.  I was too harsh on you; you've never been anything but an asset to the community, even if you're a bit of an asset from time to time!  Sorry man, if I was Kshana then I'd have a female RSI make out with Roukey to make it up to you. 

Canon source for Morpheus as a newly awakened child,  and here he is shown with two elder generations.  If anyone is a candidate for one of the 23 Awakened by the Fifth One, it's Hammon or another one of the eldest council members, though with 100 years of history, there should be four generations living in Zion, with Link's niece and nephew being the great grandchildren of the original 23, possibly the great great grandchildren.

EDIT: no d in Hammon