Forum Ranks

Transcendent - 780 days + 150 posts

Virulent Mind - 720 days + 100 posts

Clairvoyant - 660 days + 55 posts

Veteran Hacker - 600 days + 35 posts

Matriculated Mind - 540 days + 25 posts

Veteran Operator - 480 days + 20 posts

Enlightened Mind - 420 days + 20 posts

Veteran Operative - 360 days + 20 posts

Veteran - 300 days + 15 posts

Encrypted Mind - 240 days + 15 posts

Free Mind - 180 days + 15 posts

Hidden Resource 120 days + 10 posts

Hacker - 90 days + 10 posts (permission for signature granted)

Controller - 60 days + 5 posts

Operative - 30 days + 5 posts

Awakened - 21 days + 5 posts

Redpill - 14 days

Bluepill - 7 days

Coppertop - starting rank

Raise all the post counts. =P

Oooh now there's a turn around, based more off account time than posts. I think that works better as then spamming the boards doesn't have any indication of how long you've been around for.

I'll get back to you on higher ranks though, could start getting a little bit silly though if you're not careful

I'm assuming that the custom ranks will be ones (Like Femme Fetale) which will involve players doing something slightly different to get hold of them?

Raise all the post counts. =P

when will these kick in?

I'm assuming that the custom ranks will be ones (Like Femme Fetale) which will involve players doing something slightly different to get hold of them?

MxO-PhanthomZtryker wrote:

Raise all the post counts. =P

Not negotiable.

Awwww... =P

I wonder if anyone who doesn't have more than 100 posts after two years even care about getting a higher rank.

All I can say is would 'Veteran Hacker - 600 days + 25 posts' get confused with 'Liasion' or are you changing those too?  Everything else is dandy 

SolidRevolver wrote:

All I can say is would 'Veteran Hacker - 600 days + 25 posts' get confused with 'Liasion' or are you changing those too?  Everything else is dandy 

I don't like that color actually... Should probably change it.

Pssh I dun wanna be the Tran one, I wanna be pink!!! >_<

but it sounds good, Virrago =P

LordInqubus wrote:

You should be able to choose any forum rank that you've previously held. Using the current system as an example, if someone with the rank of Veteran were to obtain the rank of Enlightened Mind, that person should have the option to keep the rank of Veteran and not have another rank forced upon them.

That isn't possible with this forum software. There is no way to choose a rank.

They sound nice cut out the spam in the forums sound good to me "> when will these kick in?

 Cut out the spam in the forums?

  LOL!

  I mean jeez, I have seen practically no SPAM at all on vector - and that means about 2 active posts.  Worthless pointlessness ftw.  There used to be wars of people just chilling on the boards, 4-5 of us answering any and all posts just to have 6-7 seperate convo's.  Wow. Now there is no need for stickies on server forum cause nothing ever gets pushed off the front page.

  As for ranks - *CENSORED* is the point when just about every vet has the same rank.  Post count ranks should be hitting the 5000+ for high. I can only assume that the last boards posts are added to these cause no way did I hit 4k+ on these PoS boards.  So Pblade must be on millions by now....

 Anyhow, put simply,  Give me my rank from the old forums, The one only I ever had ===> encrypted

Make mine black so it's barely visible..you don't have to label it as anything..but if you did make it black and you wanted to make my day...you can make my rank be either "She Devil" or "Metal Head"

\m/><\m/

Ntrails wrote:

 encrypted

ohhh I like that one.  oh wait... there is already a Encrypted Mind

Should it worry me that I have no idea who you are???  raijins replacement?

  Anyhow, the new rank was, I imagine, derived from the original that I had.  On the old boards I was teh only one ever to reach it (though zippy was on track) and it was one of the 'poster' ranks rather than lurker ranks.

 SO yeah.

1 := I demand my rank back (only been what.... a year and a bit....)

2:= Hello red person

3:= Low post count requirements ftl

4:= Other thoughts;

No waffle 
Teh Pwn
Guardian
Braindead
NECROMANCER -> black or purple
Antidisestablishmentarianist
hitman
Data Miner (more suiter to lurker)

5:TheTaxidermist
My mom thinks I'm cool :/

6:= Krytical (or at least someone... maybe 5k post count+)  deserves ===> 

Krytical
Psychodelic Ninja Pirate Space Monkey Hybrid

Some from here :-= http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=10400096273

Garu wrote:

Havocide wrote:

What about those who have 5000+ posts already?

Spammer

Problem with that is if we make a rank for that we suddenly have a ton of people trying to spam 5000 posts... so not going to happen.

Unfortunately, that problem already exists, and will continue to exist regardless of ranks.


BTW, Garu... great name and color suggestion.  






heh heh

Havocide wrote:

Garu wrote:

It's perfect.  Think about it:

By alleviating rewards for posting, we will dampen the motivation behind spamming.  Spam all you want, no more rankage.

Age before post count.

Though I cant rank up. " width="15" height="15" />

How many more times are you going to say that?  We dont need to be constantly reminded about your custom ranking.

MxO-PhanthomZtryker wrote:

Virrago wrote:

Roukan wrote:

Virrago wrote:

Garu wrote:

Havocide wrote:

What about those who have 5000+ posts already?

Spammer

Problem with that is if we make a rank for that we suddenly have a ton of people trying to spam 5000 posts... so not going to happen.

Not even with the highest day count requirement?

Data Spammer + 800 Days + 5000 posts ?

If you are talking about something like that? I'll consider it but don't get your hopes up.

Now, I've got to step away from the forums for a few hours to edit the first Operative Profile " width="15" height="15">

Make a rank like that... Pretty please?
Not with the spammer title but you know... Like 10000 posts and 900 days or something.

lol, like "Forum Whore" or sumthin. . .

Roukan wrote:

Virrago wrote:

Garu wrote:

Havocide wrote:

What about those who have 5000+ posts already?

Spammer

Problem with that is if we make a rank for that we suddenly have a ton of people trying to spam 5000 posts... so not going to happen.

Not even with the highest day count requirement?

Data Spammer + 800 Days + 5000 posts ?

If you are talking about something like that? I'll consider it but don't get your hopes up.

Now, I've got to step away from the forums for a few hours to edit the first Operative Profile " />

Pretty amazing how ranks can cause this much discussion.

Liliane wrote:

Procurator wrote:

Spoon Boy - 850 days + 5100 posts
Transcendent - 850 days + 1700 posts
Clairvoyant - 850 days + 850 posts
Perceptive - 850 days

Corrupted Mainframe - 700 days + 4200 posts
Mainframe Invader - 700 days + 1400 posts
Data Cluster - 700 days + 700 posts
Data Node - 700 days

Resource Hog - 550 days + 3300 posts
Encrypted Mind - 550 days + 1100 posts
Virulent Mind - 550 days + 550 posts
Hidden Resource - 550 days

Damaged Mind - 400 days + 2400 posts
Matriculated Mind - 400 days + 800 posts
Enlightened Mind - 400 days + 400 posts
Free Mind - 400 days

Script Kiddie - 250 days + 1500 posts
Veteran Hacker - 250 days + 500 posts
Hacker - 250 days + 250 posts
Coder - 250 days

Bad Sector - 100 days + 600 posts
Veteran Operative - 100 days + 200 posts
Operative - 100 days + 100 posts
Awakened - 100 days

Failed Extraction - 600 posts
Redpill - 200 posts
Bluepill - 100 posts
Coppertop - starting ranK

I support this proposal,

As do I, though i still think the 'parallel ranks' of poster and lurker made it more interesting.

  Most importantly, it means that not everyone of the same play period will be the same colour and there is a lot of variety.  

  For everyone who says forum ranks encourage SPAM-Lite™ I say this:

  I have Spammed these boards as much as almost anyone but zippy.  Not for forum rank, NEVER for forum rank.  But because of the witty and amusing conversations that would occasionally spring up. I'll give an example; http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/..._id=10800043983 

Nobody Spams for rank, it is done for entertainment.  If you don't find it funny, go play the game and don't reply.  If you like seeing where things will go ==> Come post with me

They may not post for good rank, but I doubt they'll want a bad rank. " width="15" height="15" /> Of course, those ranks really would have to be bad... Insulting rank title, truly garish colour, and maybe get the account flagged for inspection by Virrago or a mod.

   What?  You think I would stop posting because of a crappy rank colour? Lol.   I post, as I said, for entertainment. Only way to get rid of my posts is by stopping these boards being entertaining.... you really want that?

 Incidentally. You want to deal with spammers you need to do a post/time online calculation.  I could do 50 posts in 1 hour or in 1 week. I am a spammer in one of those cases, not the other.    As for high post counts resulting in inspection by mods/CS.... lol.  You think they have time to trawl through 4000+ posts?  Or gonna judge on the most recent 50?  That would be absurd.  If the forums were full of SPAm I would be far more inclined to care. SO far there is a lack! As for me, if they ban me from the forums I quit the game. Sure, that shouldn't stop them - cause liek WoW this game has millions of subscribers so 1 more is irrelevant. I would suggest that sony like all companies ruled by the bottom line they will be VERY careful before alienating paying customers. Pblade has a truly astonishing post count, maybe .25 of those could be represented as SPAM. You would ban him? Despite being a pillar of the community (at least until he left.).

  You want to deal with SPAM. Employ mods. That has been done. There are no further steps to take.  Making a pointless and uninvolving rank system will achieve nothing other than being pointless and uninvolving to ALL forumers.

We can't calculate time online, but we can use time since registration. That's what my entire system is based on: a comparison of post count against time! And if you'd care to read my previous posts, you'd see I've already made suggestions for the cases where true contributors have a high post count.

Additionally, please define 'uninvolving'.

  The old boards DID have a function deciding time logged on/in to the forums. i.e. browsing them.  Mere time since registering has no relevance.  I could spend one in every 10 weeks spamming furiously and it would give the same post count since registary and a continually average poster. I was unaware that SoE had not retained this functionality. (to be fair I hate these boards and always have.)

 I could be registered for 2 years, making 1 post a week. Or I could be registered for two years, never post, and then throw 100 posts out in a a week.  Same post count. One is SPAM t'other is not.  Therefore the 'post count against time' system is clearly flawed.

 I will freely admit that I only read about 80% of the thread before posting - most of it scanning.  I put too little time in now to read religiously. But Pblade is merely the extreme example I use.  Many people will consider my posting Spam -> But there is a thread on vector forums by madbent (who I don't really know apart from by reputation,  and tbh has never been a big contributor to my posting world or in game world) saying 'thanks' for livening up the boards. With what?  Read 70% of the new stuff i put on there and it was just dross, designed to get the community posting and conversing again. Some of it is funny, some less so.  I felt a distinct amount of pride that anyone noticed my efforts for trying to breathe life into a dead dead board.  I am not a pillar of the community, though most of those who count do know me.  I know what community is based on though, communication.  Not all spam is for post count, or out of spite or even malicious.  I do it for interaction.

Ntrails
Heuristic-Hostile

Ntrails
Heuristic-Hostile

Ntrails wrote:

By uninnvolving I mean a system that will have almost no impact or interest.  I do not, i repeat NOT, want people posting for the sake of forum rank.  But I do recall joy and amusement at suddenly and perhaps unexpectedly gaining a new rank.  When raijinn gave us ranks he did so with no explanation and suddenly the community got together and tried to puzzle out the system. I have little time for 'joel thunderguard raijinn', but I do believe - especially in hindsight - that his was a very good course.

So your ideal rank system would be one where the community has to 'get together' and work out how it's structured? Doesn't sound like a particularly grand aim to me.  My proposed system doesn't take that away - the new rank system is clearly defined as it stands, so we've already lost what modicum of 'involvement' the previous system offered. 

Ntrails wrote:

The old boards DID have a function deciding time logged on/in to the forums. i.e. browsing them.  Mere time since registering has no relevance.  I could spend one in every 10 weeks spamming furiously and it would give the same post count since registary and a continually average poster. I was unaware that SoE had not retained this functionality. (to be fair I hate these boards and always have.)

I know what the old boards could do. There was a considerable number of different statistics they could use when defining ranks. Of course I want the old boards back (these poorly hacked versions of JForum are a disgrace to professional web development). But we don't have the old boards, so we have to make do with the few statistics at our disposal.

Ntrails wrote:

I could be registered for 2 years, making 1 post a week. Or I could be registered for two years, never post, and then throw 100 posts out in a a week.  Same post count. One is SPAM t'other is not.  Therefore the 'post count against time' system is clearly flawed.

Every ranking system will be flawed. But mine is less flawed than a system that only relies on time. The goal is (or should be) to make the ranking system apply superior ranks to as many worthy people as possible, with as few false positives as possible. My system has a higher chance of achieving that.

Ntrails wrote:

I will freely admit that I only read about 80% of the thread before posting - most of it scanning.  I put too little time in now to read religiously. But Pblade is merely the extreme example I use.  Many people will consider my posting Spam -> But there is a thread on vector forums by madbent (who I don't really know apart from by reputation,  and tbh has never been a big contributor to my posting world or in game world) saying 'thanks' for livening up the boards. With what?  Read 70% of the new stuff i put on there and it was just dross, designed to get the community posting and conversing again. Some of it is funny, some less so.  I felt a distinct amount of pride that anyone noticed my efforts for trying to breathe life into a dead dead board.  I am not a pillar of the community, though most of those who count do know me.  I know what community is based on though, communication.  Not all spam is for post count, or out of spite or even malicious.  I do it for interaction.

If 'spam' has some sort of purpose and manages to improve the community in some way, it isn't spam. It is the moderators' job to manage spam as best they can, so a ranking system should be able to just work without having to take spammers into consideration. We know that isn't the case, though; we know that the moderators aren't infallable, so my system does take spammers into account and tries its best to handle them. And so far it's the only system (if memory serves) that has attempted this.

SolidRevolver wrote:

Mashoe wrote:

Who cares, its a forum!

You cared enough to get your name changed TeeHee  " />

And the ranks are a way for new players to see who is more experienced when asking questions, we know either to laugh or help when someone asks what we see as a 'n00bish' question " />  And we aren't going to all have a dull and universal forum where everyone looks the same.

I mean how can 25 pages of posts (or however many it is) be made about this?

RemagDiv wrote:

Either that, or Virrago is just telling us this to toy with us.

I never toy about forum ranks " />

Solution = No ranks!!!

Everyone loses!

  Solution := A homogeneous mixture of two or more substances. A solution may exist in any phase.

   Take all the spoons away ^_^

edit: awww crap, this is in my favourites.  This was probably a necro. >_>

edit: awww crap, this is in my favourites.  This was probably a necro. >_>

KanoR wrote:

Lezel wrote:

Virrago wrote:

I think we need a new Blue rank " width="15" height="15" />

and call it Ultimate Troll ..to show who really plays and who just browses the forums..just an idea

WTB any rank called Ultimate Troll.

Min. Level 7000 (posts)