Chapter 9 Your predictions

43 posts · 2007-11-12 20:06:54 to 2007-12-09 12:38:41

#36300352112 11/12/2007 20:06:54 Chapter 9 Your predictions
well its about that time probaly the bigest shock of the game since 1.3 came out the truce ended and now the war has startedin chapter 8 now that this has fallen out what do you guys think will hapen in the next chapter i still really cant think of anything  although i hope we find out who the mystery man that was watching the general exscape and neo talking to deus ex machina.
#36300352119 11/12/2007 20:29:06 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
Mm... finding out who the mystery man and what he's up to and how he knows what he knows is going to be a major revelation... I'm guessing -- and this is something I'm very, very ambivalent about -- this might tie in with some of the Matrix-within-a-Matrix theories that have been bandied about since Revs was released.
#36300352120 11/12/2007 20:30:01 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
Probably something to do with the Machine-awakened bluepills. Let's see.. the General was pretty freaked out at the end of the last mission, due to a sudden huge movement of Machine Sentinels. I can't speak for Zion, as I usually don't pay attention to their missions, but the fact that the Machines had a bonus mission speaks volumes, I think.


Ummmmmmmmmmmm................ wild speculation, but it might have to do with a new Zion the Machines are building, perhaps to replace the old one, perhaps as part of their cycle. Of course, that would be pretty useless, if there wasn't a One/Negative One balance, unless the Machines have built or already own a second or numerous Matrices.
#36300352189 11/13/2007 02:59:35 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
I don't think we'll find out who Mystery Man is just yet, but we'll see him more, either in cinematics or referenced somehow in-game. I don't know if he can jack in, but I doubt it.

Danielle Wright will make an appearance as an angry assassin, with a temper that puts even Niobe to shame. I still don't think she's dead.

If there is a revelation, it'll be about the Machines' power supply, what with all that scouting about done by the General recently on the Merv's orders. But if the Real is a Matrix within a Matrix, I will hurt someone. Badly. SMILEY
#36300352203 11/13/2007 04:26:06 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
Maybe we will finally get to see New Zion or a previously unexplored area of the Machine City.
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#36300352205 11/13/2007 04:30:31 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions

Well i think things are certainly building up for a big reveal or revelation - this war scenario (as nice as it is) is starting to wear thin a little after 3 subchapters while the build up from the merv investigations is reaching a critical.

Not to mention Rare mentioned in the Update 56 thread that things are going to be big this chapter, then theres the fact the story has only been written up to the end of 9. Any bigger pull togethers or ends to story arcs will likely be happening sometime soon.

#36300352278 11/13/2007 08:05:41 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
Procurator wrote:
But if the Real is a Matrix within a Matrix, I will hurt someone. Badly. SMILEY
Agreed, that would be bad. Very very bad.
#36300352281 11/13/2007 08:10:17 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
shinpseudo wrote:
Procurator wrote:
But if the Real is a Matrix within a Matrix, I will hurt someone. Badly. SMILEY
Agreed, that would be bad. Very very bad.

I'd liken that story twist to Dallas and the 'He wasn't dead, just in the shower' twist.
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#36300352297 11/13/2007 08:42:08 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
I imagine that the Mystery Man, or some other situation in the real world related to the Mero storyline will wind up diverting the Machines' attention away from Zion for the time being, giving Zion a chance to get their vets back in, and free some more minds.





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#36300352352 11/13/2007 09:34:34 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
kou_urake wrote:
I imagine that the Mystery Man, or some other situation in the real world related to the Mero storyline will wind up diverting the Machines' attention away from Zion for the time being, giving Zion a chance to get their vets back in, and free some more minds.






It's Mauser.

End of mystery.

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#36300352393 11/13/2007 10:49:58 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions

I like the idea of a new, Machine-built Zion.

So here's my go...

EPN stumbles upon the new city the Machines are building in time enough to find the extracted blues and gather at least some on their ships and bolt just before the tide of Sentinels reaches them. Of course, a few ships are taken down in the process, everyone's really pissed off. Meanwhile, Mystery Man heads to the Machine city, and a good number of Sentinels start chasing after him. 'Course, he's got super-Neo powers because he's a previous One, and starts making them drop dead casually. He gets in brief, cryptic contact with Zion or EPN and asks for a ride.

#36300352403 11/13/2007 11:09:10 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
Neoteny wrote:
EPN stumbles upon the new city the Machines are building in time enough to find the extracted blues and gather at least some on their ships and bolt just before the tide of Sentinels reaches them. Of course, a few ships are taken down in the process, everyone's really pissed off. Meanwhile, Mystery Man heads to the Machine city, and a good number of Sentinels start chasing after him. 'Course, he's got super-Neo powers because he's a previous One, and starts making them drop dead casually. He gets in brief, cryptic contact with Zion or EPN and asks for a ride.
...just... no.

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#36300352464 11/13/2007 12:43:13 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
The Mystery Man is either Smith/Neo (because I'm paranoid like that) or someone completely new like the General was.
#36300352483 11/13/2007 13:16:59 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
I don't think Mystery Man is going to do anything against the Machines. I get the feeling they're harbouring him, or he's working for them. Possibly even controlling them to a degree.
#36300352485 11/13/2007 13:19:36 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
cloudwolf wrote:

Well i think things are certainly building up for a big reveal or revelation - this war scenario (as nice as it is) is starting to wear thin a little after 3 subchapters while the build up from the merv investigations is reaching a critical.

Not to mention Rare mentioned in the Update 56 thread that things are going to be big this chapter, then theres the fact the story has only been written up to the end of 9. Any bigger pull togethers or ends to story arcs will likely be happening sometime soon.

I'm hoping we get the reveal and get to move on also. Hopefully they learned from the previous chapters not to make things last forever.
#36300352488 11/13/2007 13:20:43 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
The previous One comes back, a new Machine aligned anomaly comes into the picture, or they finally give us back our Neurophyte...
#36300353148 11/14/2007 15:49:04 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions

   I Think we get some revelations, but not all, about our mystery Man, Who I believe is working with the supposed dead Morpheus in his search for Neo.

 I believe we may have some knowledge about what The Machines are doing with the Bluepills they are awakening.

 Also EPN may launch some kind of attack on The Machines, possibly their Power Supply, in or out of the Matrix.

 Oh and before anyone criticises me about Morpheus, these are just theories, not facts. Plus, Proc in particular, I don't criticise you about Danielle Wright not being dead, nor anyone else who think's she's alive.

#36300353161 11/14/2007 16:14:21 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
The Mystery Man is either Smith/Neo (because I'm paranoid like that) or someone completely new like the General was.

I'm guessing he's someone completely new. Bringing back Neo would cheapen the story for me.
#36300353177 11/14/2007 16:28:14 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
MatrixRefugee wrote:
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
The Mystery Man is either Smith/Neo (because I'm paranoid like that) or someone completely new like the General was.

I'm guessing he's someone completely new. Bringing back Neo would cheapen the story for me.
Personally I wish they'd find Neo's body or confirm what happened to it, and find Morpheus (dead or alive) too. The ambiguity there has lasted too long for my tastes.

If Neo did come back, I'd rather the One program have been removed, and he's just a normal guy without the cool powers. He'd still be able to command a lot of people.

Hopefully Sarah Edmontons finally becomes a true part of the story, too. Let's close off some of these old mysteries.
#36300353235 11/14/2007 18:49:36 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
MotorZ wrote:
MatrixRefugee wrote:
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
The Mystery Man is either Smith/Neo (because I'm paranoid like that) or someone completely new like the General was.

I'm guessing he's someone completely new. Bringing back Neo would cheapen the story for me.
Personally I wish they'd find Neo's body or confirm what happened to it, and find Morpheus (dead or alive) too. The ambiguity there has lasted too long for my tastes.

If Neo did come back, I'd rather the One program have been removed, and he's just a normal guy without the cool powers. He'd still be able to command a lot of people.

Hopefully Sarah Edmontons finally becomes a true part of the story, too. Let's close off some of these old mysteries.
Neo and Sarah..are the same thing.
#36300353239 11/14/2007 19:00:22 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
Havocide wrote:
Neo and Sarah..are the same thing.
One can only hope SMILEY
#36300353315 11/14/2007 20:58:43 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
I think the Machines are building another Zion.  This suggests there are many small Zions dotted about the world rather than just one bastion of human life.  Or it's possible they're making somewhere for Machinists to work out of.  Or maybe part of the surface is actually liveable...

I'm so excited. 
#36300359917 11/27/2007 16:56:47 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
I took a nap this afternoon and got this idea from the dream within it:

The Intruder is a One from another instance of the Matrix.  Our Matrix is but one of dozens dotting the planet.  He knows about them and is messing around with our simulation.  He might even be part of a larger organization for all we know.

Anywho, that's my subconscious talking.
#36300360125 11/28/2007 03:07:47 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
ArchDuke wrote:
I took a nap this afternoon and got this idea from the dream within it:

The Intruder is a One from another instance of the Matrix.  Our Matrix is but one of dozens dotting the planet.  He knows about them and is messing around with our simulation.  He might even be part of a larger organization for all we know.

Anywho, that's my subconscious talking.

It's possible, the extra pod fields could be bluepills in other Matrices and if they worked on the same principles they would have 'Ones' too. Could also explain why the Intruder's code is not native to this matrix because he belongs in another matrix. Maybe each matrix is built out of different code, which is why he is in wireframe because of compatibility issues.

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#36300360129 11/28/2007 03:19:10 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
Fractor wrote:
ArchDuke wrote:
I took a nap this afternoon and got this idea from the dream within it:

The Intruder is a One from another instance of the Matrix.  Our Matrix is but one of dozens dotting the planet.  He knows about them and is messing around with our simulation.  He might even be part of a larger organization for all we know.

Anywho, that's my subconscious talking.

It's possible, the extra pod fields could be bluepills in other Matrices and if they worked on the same principles they would have 'Ones' too. Could also explain why the Intruder's code is not native to this matrix because he belongs in another matrix. Maybe each matrix is built out of different code, which is why he is in wireframe because of compatibility issues.

This kinda reminds me of the Kromaggs in Sliders, moving from one Alt. Dimension to another in the hopes of enslaving Humankind.... This Intruder could be a being from another Matrix and it's goal is to expand its influence to other Simulations....
#36300360141 11/28/2007 03:42:12 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions

I think this "thing" will accomplish one thing....and that's fear

The machines will scramble, like random robot parts all over 0-1, to keep whatever intell they have to themselves..or Agent Gray will hold back on his masterplan and details until they have further "observations"...

The Merovingians will try to intice this goober to thier side...to show they can try and control any villain and to simply promote this "fear"

Then...Zion, will try to find a way to talk to this guy..and see if they can get any leads on what he's about ....

The Cypherites...will remain jacked out until there is an event

Last but not least, EPN will investigate..and find clarity on this guy once and for all..they will obtain a passage through the Matrix into the real by way of the Ascension Monument...proving that that very door...is the prime gate way

By then, all orgs will have hardlines accsessing every construct...and The Tower will be open to all tourists..with this "thing" being the bad guy you must beat for a new drop

the new drop...should be a black hat/bandanna combination..the level spawn should be 70...and the npc's should be 55s..meaning yes...you'll need 1337 hacks or a team to get whats yours

This hat/bandanna mostlikely will be rediculous to get...(in which i sincerely hope not)..it should be directed to those duelist/smg/kniving ppls...(the ppls who like to play with toys SMILEY)

Finally, the new archive missions will offer the N30 Flame Virus (the pwneriffic purple code)...

These predictions are probably wayy off...but I tried

\m/><\m/

#36300360151 11/28/2007 04:16:43 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
The Matrix runs on a windows operating system. The Intruder comes from a simulation that runs on a Mac OS. Thus...the compatibility issues. SMILEY
#36300360292 11/28/2007 09:27:14 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
It's the Jolly Green Giant, except white.
#36300360332 11/28/2007 10:28:24 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
Lezel wrote:

Last and most least, EPN will be as annoying as ever and be absolutely of no use.  The Intruder will hopefully eat Kid and kill everyone (except Roukan and Phrack) in the organization because he thinks choice is but a dream in a world where everything is controlled by someone or another.

\m/><\m/


Fixed. SMILEY
#36300365158 12/04/2007 19:17:17 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions

((Hey, check out the Kid's message in the current nearly year old sentinel - forshadowing!

Why not in a construct accessible through the door atop Ascension? (Refering to where Neo's rsi should be).

))

Starschwar
#36300365159 12/04/2007 19:20:36 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
kou_urake wrote:

((Hey, check out the Kid's message in the current nearly year old sentinel - forshadowing!

Why not in a construct accessible through the door atop Ascension? (Refering to where Neo's rsi should be).

))

Ah, that's why we haven't had a Sentinel for so long. It still had important info up through this chapter.

SMILEYSMILEY
#36300367256 12/08/2007 03:21:31 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
Well, I learned something astonishing today but I'm forcing myself not to put it here because it will spoil the surprise.  Just take this as a warning that you may want to get a seatbelt installed on your chair. 
#36300367327 12/08/2007 07:51:25 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
GypsyJuggler wrote:
Well, I learned something astonishing today but I'm forcing myself not to put it here because it will spoil the surprise.  Just take this as a warning that you may want to get a seatbelt installed on your chair. 
*cough*leakedinfofromLESIG*cough*

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#36300367360 12/08/2007 09:27:43 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
((

Okay, here's my off the wall theory on this guy: he's human. Not a "normal" redpill though -  one of the MacHenry style unplugged humans. And he's from whatever's at the other end of those mysterious power lines. ))
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#36300367361 12/08/2007 09:30:31 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions

<-- voteing that the Intruder is freeborn. reasons why here

Also hopeing and praying that there is at least one event with the Intruder and the Morpheus SIM. Would kick so much *CENSORED*.


#36300367612 12/08/2007 20:47:48 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
odj wrote:
GypsyJuggler wrote:
Well, I learned something astonishing today but I'm forcing myself not to put it here because it will spoil the surprise.  Just take this as a warning that you may want to get a seatbelt installed on your chair. 
*cough*leakedinfofromLESIG*cough*
Live Event actually, but feel free to email me leaked info ;)

Oh, and although he speaks like a human he's almost assuredly not. 
#36300367639 12/08/2007 22:15:20 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
I just realized, we don't even know this guy's name. If he even has one!
#36300367650 12/08/2007 23:16:09 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
GamiSB wrote:

<-- voteing that the Intruder is freeborn. reasons why here

That would be interesting, but then again if he/she is freeborn then how the hell is he/she jacked in?

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#36300367652 12/09/2007 00:11:37 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
odj wrote:
GamiSB wrote:

<-- voteing that the Intruder is freeborn. reasons why here

That would be interesting, but then again if he/she is freeborn then how the hell is he/she jacked in?

If you have ever read the book "Taking the Red Pill" there is one essay where the writer talks about how plausible aspects of the matrix's science fiction is, and the way he descirbes how the jacks in our head work, its almost impossible that a freeborn could be brought into the matrix...but he is hardly an authority, rather, one mans opinion.

However, my vote is with the fact that he might be from another matrix, with ours only being one of many, hence the incompatabilities. Hell, maybe the machines we know are only one of many factions of machines the cover the globe (not that different from the various countries of man) and one of the factions has been overthrown by the humans and now their "one" has come to our matrix. Could explain the arrogance? His concerns with weapons in the real. Maybe that theory is a bit much but I still support that trend.
#36300367736 12/09/2007 08:08:36 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
odj wrote:
GamiSB wrote:

<-- voteing that the Intruder is freeborn. reasons why here

That would be interesting, but then again if he/she is freeborn then how the hell is he/she jacked in?

No idea but I don't think that its impossible when you take into account that the first humans to be plugged into the Matrix we also all "freeborn" and without all the plugs all over their body. Then there is the idea that he's doing what Neo did, seperating his mind from his body without jacking in.


#36300367784 12/09/2007 12:38:41 Re:Chapter 9 Your predictions
Whoa I never thought about that. And that's REALLY weird because I took part in a crew RP story waaay back on the Ubisoft MxO boards with some people from thelastfreecity.com in which this very thing was part of the story.

Our crew was the "Malachi X-355" and there were some other things happening but at one point we stumble across a very old Machine outpost with a giant tower. We called the tower Yggdrasil, after the mythology, and it was guarded by an old Machine sentry that we called Mimir. Anyway, some *poop* went down and some people were in trouble in the Matrix (this was before we knew about the auto-reconstruction) and so our free-born Operator ends up inside the tower and discovers that is one of the places where the Machines were experimenting on humans and found a machine which allowed him to jack in the Matrix without any jacks. It was like a headgear thing. Anyway, once inside he was super powerful, just like the Intruder seems to be, and kicked a lot of Agent *CENSORED* and freed the operatives trapped inside.

So yeah if The Intruder does end up being a freeborn human jacking in at some old outpost then that would be really crazy. I'd probably have to sue SoE for copyright violation SMILEY