Is it time?

Wrong. Under the Truce they were radical organizations.

It's not wrong, it's a matter of opinion based on the belief that these organizations are still very radical when compared to their parent.  Case in point, Machinists are exactly thrilled with the Truce being absolved.  Cypherites are revelling in it.  EPN seems to want to strike against the Machines while Zion has yet to reveal any plans to do so yet.

Things may change in the future but as of now, these groups have their own purpose and agendas. 

Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:

Wrong. Under the Truce they were radical organizations.

It's not wrong, it's a matter of opinion based on the belief that these organizations are still very radical when compared to their parent.  Case in point, Machinists are exactly thrilled with the Truce being absolved.  Cypherites are revelling in it.  EPN seems to want to strike against the Machines while Zion has yet to reveal any plans to do so yet.

Things may change in the future but as of now, these groups have their own purpose and agendas. 

Fair enough.

I still think the story would be better with just three orgs to worry about.

Machinists are exactly thrilled with the Truce being absolved

Shi+Xin+Feng wrote:

Okay, a lot of people have expressed their feelings about whether these orgs should stay or go.

But, I hear a lot of "I (like/don't like) X org)." What I don't hear much of is, do these splinter orgs have a mission? Does this mission differentiate the sub-org from the parent org enough to warrant keeping them around?

Could we get better storylines for three orgs rather than five? Would the game be improved?

Those are the questions I'd like to see answered.

In my opinion, I think the game, overall, would be better with just the three orgs. I don't think the sub-orgs have a good enough mission to keep them. I like being EPN; it makes me stand out in a crowd of Zionists. But, not so much anymore because even this sub-org has been 'watered down' now.

Whether I like it or not doesn't necessarily mean it's good for the game, though.

Trust me, I would LOVE to see the Cyph Org as well as the EPN Org. get their own mission, their own controller, (I want Veil to be our controller), if the Devs actually made us into REAL orgs instead of just splinters, then I would be as happy as a pig in slop.  However, as it's been said from time and time again, due to limited time and limited Dev powers, the Cypherite Organization and the EPN Organization will never become real orgs, just splinter orgs.  Which means every time I do a critical mission, I'll have to listen to Gray's monotone voice, and it's gotten old a long time ago.

 Yes, and those Dev's said that if they did make Cypherite and EPN orgs, then they would have to cut back on Luggables. All fine and good but, seriously, Don't some, if not most, find luggables boring? I mean it's like receiving a toy, but then you get bored with it and throw it away. Now new orgs, not only is it great for RP, but many are demanding it. I heard the demand for new orgs more often than I do for luggables.

Seriously, they treat the EPN and Cypherite orgs like sidelines when they are not. I mean take the Recent Cypherite sabotage in Zion or the Attempted attack on The Power Lines Feeding The Machine City Power, these do not look like sideline consequences. They should be made Real Orgs, might even give this game a boost. I know this is off topic But I think this would give EPN and the Cypherites much more depth and purpose.

It wasn't luggables, that was just an example. They'd have to scale back just about all non-critical mission new content (quests, etc) instead. I'd love to see fully implemented Cyph/EPN orgs... but at the cost of other new things to do, I don't think its worth it at this time.

Any time would be good to have new orgs - if it won't mean cutting back on things like critical missions. Which at this point (and until MxO closes, presumably) isn't the case.

Garu wrote:

Machinists are exactly thrilled with the Truce being absolved

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Wrong. Under the Truce they were radical organizations. Whereas before, it was EPN's job to awaken everyone and fight the Machines. Now, that is all of Zion's mission. Before the Truce ended, it was the CYPH's job to keep us from awakening any more bluepills and to fight Zion on behalf of the Machines. Now that there is open hostilities, this covertness is no longer needed.

Without the Truce, the mission of these radical groups becomes the mission of the parent orgs. So, having two extra orgs for Rarebit to write about and care for in the storyline is an unnecessary burden that could be using up valuable creativity. I think if it were just back to three orgs (with more dynamic and variety in the factions within those orgs), the storyline would improve even more.

It's crazy to think that Zion, knowing what they are up against, would not want this fairly large group of like minded individuals back with them. And it's equally ludicrous that, under these conditions, the Machines would not want to excercise more control over a group that already works for them. 

They wouldn't dare get rid of the good liaisons, surely?

I also want to point out that while there is no procedure for reinsertion, that doesn't mean there won't be one some time in the future.