Growing Humans

9 posts · 2007-08-26 09:20:06 to 2007-08-29 08:05:33

#36300311131 08/26/2007 09:20:06 Growing Humans
Thought occurred to me last night about the machines and how they grow their humans.

Do they use the naturally supplied biological method (i.e. sperm and egg)?  Or do they do something else, more akin a direct cloning process or something?

Also, I would have to assume they execution this process to coincide with human relationships within the Matrix.  Otherwise there would be alot of
kids who look nothing like their parents and probably a few immaculate conceptions.  :p
 
#36300311190 08/26/2007 12:09:54 Re:Growing Humans
My guess is the Machines collect sperm and eggs from the humans in the power plants, then keep the numbers up by cloning via embryo fission, ie. seperating the cells once the egg is fertilized and starts dividing to eventually progress to a cell mass and so on. If I remember correctly, in some real-world labs, you could create as many as eight seperate embryos, but after that, it seems to weaken the embryos beyond that number.
#36300311195 08/26/2007 12:13:37 Re:Growing Humans

From the Merv 8.2.1 mish

Persephone: Flood sent you about it? How rare... in that case, make sure you tell him every detail... With the Machines, I was a nameless routine, charged with stimulating reproductive glands of humans in the pods. It was so rarely a result of love... But conception does not take place in the pods. The parents could be miles apart. Their genetic samples are sent to the Fields, where they are combined, and grown into children.



#36300311206 08/26/2007 12:41:45 Re:Growing Humans
GamiSB wrote:

From the Merv 8.2.1 mish

Persephone: Flood sent you about it? How rare... in that case, make sure you tell him every detail... With the Machines, I was a nameless routine, charged with stimulating reproductive glands of humans in the pods. It was so rarely a result of love... But conception does not take place in the pods. The parents could be miles apart. Their genetic samples are sent to the Fields, where they are combined, and grown into children.


Thanks GamiSB.  Explains a lot about Persephone too.  SMILEY

Makes me wonder through, do the embryo's truely share their "Parents" in the real as they do in the matrix, or is it all farmed up and randomly assigned in terms of who gets what parents in the Matrix.

Could also mean Akeela might have 30 kids or something in pods.  SMILEY

Hope they don't come asking for child support...
#36300311241 08/26/2007 13:20:36 Re:Growing Humans
Akeela wrote:
GamiSB wrote:

From the Merv 8.2.1 mish

Persephone: Flood sent you about it? How rare... in that case, make sure you tell him every detail... With the Machines, I was a nameless routine, charged with stimulating reproductive glands of humans in the pods. It was so rarely a result of love... But conception does not take place in the pods. The parents could be miles apart. Their genetic samples are sent to the Fields, where they are combined, and grown into children.


Thanks GamiSB.  Explains a lot about Persephone too.  SMILEY

Makes me wonder through, do the embryo's truely share their "Parents" in the real as they do in the matrix, or is it all farmed up and randomly assigned in terms of who gets what parents in the Matrix.

Could also mean Akeela might have 30 kids or something in pods.  SMILEY

Hope they don't come asking for child support...

I'd be willing to say that they do share the parents who's sperm and egg they were made from. The only diffrence between normal conception and what the Machines do is that the Machines only need the sperm and egg to make a human while humans still need the females body.

As for haveing 30 kids, i doubt it. The machines can't exactly take 100 samples from every human, make babies outa them, and expect the system to suport them all. The city would become cramped and then it would take alot to explain where all these people are comeing from.

Its much easier to just watch the blues and insert babies where the parents make the opening to have one. Meaning, you wouldn't have kids unless ya did the naughty. =P


#36300312707 08/28/2007 15:08:59 Re:Growing Humans
Of course, they have to be careful about inbreeding and overbreeding.  I wonder why they didn't try to breed in or out favorable or unfavorable traits like we do with livestock?  Like, to try to make us more docile.
#36300312868 08/28/2007 21:49:36 Re:Growing Humans
Something I had given thought to as well.  Or why not breed us to generate more heat, or to have higher neural activity.  Essentially making us a more efficient "Battery" 
#36300312950 08/29/2007 04:01:40 Re:Growing Humans
Akeela wrote:
Something I had given thought to as well.  Or why not breed us to generate more heat, or to have higher neural activity.  Essentially making us a more efficient "Battery" 
Maybe the bluepills are already efficient 'batteries' or maybe they're too fragile to be tampered with. I would have thought raising their neural activity would make them more aware of the matrix which is not good for the machines and raising body heat would cause them to die in the real.
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#36300313094 08/29/2007 08:05:33 Re:Growing Humans
Akeela wrote:
Something I had given thought to as well.  Or why not breed us to generate more heat, or to have higher neural activity.  Essentially making us a more efficient "Battery" 


If I remember correctly, there was something in "The Art of 'The Matrix'", the coffee-table-sized art book with a lot of the storyboard and concept art for the first movie, about the Machines being biased towards stronger, healthier fetuses and that they'd immediately cull ones that showed signs of disabilties, etc. (If that's true, I guess I'd better retro-con the bit where my girl finds out she has Turner's Syndrome, and I was going to insert that her brother has Asperger's Syndrome, but that might be questionable now...

:: Goes for her copy of "Art of 'The Matrix'"::

Hmm... can't find it. Wonder where I got that informatio now...