[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

43 posts · 2007-06-28 21:09:38 to 2007-07-02 05:39:45

#36300271063 06/28/2007 21:09:38 [7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07


One to zero: the deadly binary.

So easy to kill a man.

So terribly easy.


#36300271067 06/28/2007 21:18:06 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
One of the best live event recaps i've seen, well done to all those involved.
#36300271070 06/28/2007 21:29:42 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
HostileIntention wrote:
One of the best live event recaps i've seen, well done to all those involved.

(( I agree, that was one nice looking event. ))

My old leader, your purpose is that of a tool - and you are fully aware of that.  I do not judge your actions, but your purpose is that of senseless.  There are many who are destined to waken, and those who are destined to sleep.  Suppose those who awaken out-weigh those who sleep, then the world itself is in confusion.  You can keep them in for so long, but they know when they must leave the dream.  Thus your purpose, at the very least, is pointless to continue.  Try your best, sleep well, for you may need it.

...

//End Transmission.
#36300271071 06/28/2007 21:30:08 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Cryptos just raised his pimp hand eh?

He's right about one thing... Your trial has only begin, Cypherites. The time has come to be accountable.

- Ezekhiel

(Interesting to see him step up, and agreed, very good recap.)
#36300271072 06/28/2007 21:30:39 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

I notice that Systematic Chaos was in attendance to this... tragedy. Systematic Chaos is now considered a threat and enemy to Zion in the eyes of Morpheus' Legacy. This breach has led us to believe that Systematic Chaos is outside the bounds of the truce and will be dealt with as Cypherite Terrorists.

You boys made your bed, now you have to sleep in it.

Rest in Peace, Sarv. You and your crew will be avenged.

((This Live Event read really well. To all those involved kudos! It looks like things are about to heat up. Crpytos telling off Veil was halarious. I could feel the tension SMILEY))


#36300271083 06/28/2007 21:45:06 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
As usual, resorting to extreme methods albeit with a certain flair....

((I see Cryptos' Avatar is working...))
#36300271088 06/28/2007 21:51:39 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

Aw, what's the matter dearie?  Calling you Toorima hit a soft spot?  Are we feeling some regret there?

Tough *poop*.

#36300271091 06/28/2007 22:03:18 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Mercio wrote:

I notice that Systematic Chaos was in attendance to this... tragedy. Systematic Chaos is now considered a threat and enemy to Zion in the eyes of Morpheus' Legacy. This breach has led us to believe that Systematic Chaos is outside the bounds of the truce and will be dealt with as Cypherite Terrorists.

You boys made your bed, now you have to sleep in it.

Rest in Peace, Sarv. You and your crew will be avenged.

((This Live Event read really well. To all those involved kudos! It looks like things are about to heat up. Crpytos telling off Veil was halarious. I could feel the tension SMILEY))


well said Mercio
#36300271095 06/28/2007 22:09:10 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
So Mercio, you may label us as you will, but we remain... Machinists. We pulled no jacks, hacked no hovercrafts, nor attacked any redpills. We came, we saw, we watched. Systematic Chaos is simply interested in the goings-on of the present... and ultimately, our future. I saw Cypherites end the life of a Zionite who murdered countless victims. There is a clear-cut circle of violence, yet our hands are clean. I suppose our experience with the Machines has led us to appreciate self preservation. You, apparently, do not. Do not try and justify your future Truce-breaking with some far-fetched excuse. If it is deletion you seek, pursue your threats: your time too shall come.
#36300271101 06/28/2007 22:24:21 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

You can't forget your past, Toorima. Not now, not ever.

Make no mistake, we certainly will not be forgetting, nor forgiving anytime soon.

It is... interesting to hear that Cryptos has once again resumed command of the Cypherite legions. It does, however, make me question which leadership was responsible for the death of the Pelageus and if there are further such killings to come under his guiding hand, though at least it seems like he was kind enough to spare the rest of the crew that this killer was on.

Either way, we'll be continuing to put an end to the Cypherite movement, one murderer at a time.

#36300271107 06/28/2007 22:29:12 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
((O if Veil takes him out I will be so happy! I would much have her as a leader.))
#36300271112 06/28/2007 23:27:23 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Bayamo wrote:
So Mercio, you may label us as you will, but we remain... Machinists. We pulled no jacks, hacked no hovercrafts, nor attacked any redpills. We came, we saw, we watched. Systematic Chaos is simply interested in the goings-on of the present... and ultimately, our future. I saw Cypherites end the life of a Zionite who murdered countless victims. There is a clear-cut circle of violence, yet our hands are clean. I suppose our experience with the Machines has led us to appreciate self preservation. You, apparently, do not. Do not try and justify your future Truce-breaking with some far-fetched excuse. If it is deletion you seek, pursue your threats: your time too shall come.

Obviously further discussions are needed. We'll be in touch, rather soon...

#36300271122 06/29/2007 00:35:46 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

Hmm, I'm liking this new Cryptos...

((looked like a fun event!))

#36300271143 06/29/2007 02:05:47 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Bayamo wrote:
So Mercio, you may label us as you will, but we remain... Machinists. We pulled no jacks, hacked no hovercrafts, nor attacked any redpills. We came, we saw, we watched. Systematic Chaos is simply interested in the goings-on of the present... and ultimately, our future. I saw Cypherites end the life of a Zionite who murdered countless victims. There is a clear-cut circle of violence, yet our hands are clean. I suppose our experience with the Machines has led us to appreciate self preservation. You, apparently, do not. Do not try and justify your future Truce-breaking with some far-fetched excuse. If it is deletion you seek, pursue your threats: your time too shall come.

Those who stand idle, while watching someone getting murdered, unrelated to what that person has done, makes you guilty of murder, all the same.
Watch your "clean hands", maybe you can't see them anymore because of the amount of blood on them.

-GG
#36300271164 06/29/2007 03:31:32 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Mercio wrote:
Bayamo wrote:
So Mercio, you may label us as you will, but we remain... Machinists. We pulled no jacks, hacked no hovercrafts, nor attacked any redpills. We came, we saw, we watched. Systematic Chaos is simply interested in the goings-on of the present... and ultimately, our future. I saw Cypherites end the life of a Zionite who murdered countless victims. There is a clear-cut circle of violence, yet our hands are clean. I suppose our experience with the Machines has led us to appreciate self preservation. You, apparently, do not. Do not try and justify your future Truce-breaking with some far-fetched excuse. If it is deletion you seek, pursue your threats: your time too shall come.

Obviously further discussions are needed. We'll be in touch, rather soon...


Mm, I really was looking forward to someone having a rush of blood and errupting like that.

http://forums.station.sony.com/mxo/...mp;#36300269204

Even E Pluribus Neo moved to seperate themselves from Sarv and what he was doing, perhaps Morpheus Legacy might want to keep up to date on why the terrorists distanced themselves, hm?

#36300271167 06/29/2007 04:08:50 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Same old Cryptos!!!We'll meet again......
#36300271173 06/29/2007 04:29:24 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

The combined intelligence of man and machine and the best it can come up with is 5000 year old justice, what a testament to social evolution, how noble, how righteous lolololololol

#36300271181 06/29/2007 05:04:03 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

I still can't believe that EPN seperated themselves from Sarv for killing a man who was 1) Working with the Cypherites, and 2) Would have killed him given a chance.

Seriously.  If you had a Cyph spy on your ship, what would you do?  Just let them hang around risking the lives of you and everyone else on your ship?  Or deal with it?


#36300271191 06/29/2007 05:28:13 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Asa wrote:

I still can't believe that EPN seperated themselves from Sarv for killing a man who was 1) Working with the Cypherites, and 2) Would have killed him given a chance.

Seriously.  If you had a Cyph spy on your ship, what would you do?  Just let them hang around risking the lives of you and everyone else on your ship?  Or deal with it?

If he knew you knew he was there, my money's on "let him get off the ship before he slits your throat."  But hey, that's just what I'd do.  Or..  what I did.  Or something.
#36300271192 06/29/2007 05:29:24 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

It's rather interesting to see so many willing to become the monster they despise.  You are more like us than you realize.

Sweet dreams,
Haigen

#36300271198 06/29/2007 05:39:13 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

Good old fashioned Cypherism, with a twist of swift lethality. It's good to get back to our roots...

- Tranta

#36300271217 06/29/2007 06:24:13 [7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

(( Cryptos gone craaazy. The Cyphs are even more deadly than before, they have no masters, no control. I just hope the machs realise whats happening under their noses before its too late.

In the mean time i look forward to the evitable showdown over leadership, that'll make a good LE post ^.^ SMILEY)

#36300271221 06/29/2007 06:30:48 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Mercio wrote:

You and your crew will be avenged.


You might also find it interesting to hear that only Sarv was jacked in, his crew themselves actually turned against Sarv when they realised the lies he had been telling to those bluepills he was trying to awaken and when he had killed his own first mate.

So, in actual fact, the crew was spared.

((Pretty sure that was mentioned here:

))

#36300271248 06/29/2007 07:21:59 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Oh! What a cauldron of wonder we have here, Mmm?

First we lose a sociopathic murdered as leader of the Cypherites, and regain a philosophical genius. And secondly, we get rid of a total waste of Zionite space. I don't know what the knock on the head did to Cryptos, but he's seeing things clearer than his cohort, even if it's for slightly skewed reasons. You blues have your uses after all.

Good riddance to bad Captains. It makes me wonder how he achieved such a position in the first place.

> PBlade
#36300271252 06/29/2007 07:29:56 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

Mm.

You see, I'm seeing highly respected people like PBlade and ZeroMark come out and condemn Sarv. Yet Morpheus' Legacy continues to defend a guy who lied to his first mate about his family. So who knows what lies he told the blue pills he tried awakening? See, normally I'd say something about you guys needing to change direction and make it official that you've joined EPN...but even they condemned this guy! So where does that leave you guys? I mean, are you really trying to support someone as sick as Sarv just to try and frame us as Cypherites? You're a little too ready to try and group us Machines as Cypherites. Makes me wonder really...

#36300271281 06/29/2007 08:47:02 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
((looked like an awesome event, I like Cryptos's attitude more than Veil's most of the time))

He got what he deserved. Nice to see that EPN didn't interfere with what was right.
#36300271303 06/29/2007 09:42:40 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Yasamuu1 wrote:
Mercio wrote:

You and your crew will be avenged.


You might also find it interesting to hear that only Sarv was jacked in, his crew themselves actually turned against Sarv when they realised the lies he had been telling to those bluepills he was trying to awaken and when he had killed his own first mate.

So, in actual fact, the crew was spared.

((Pretty sure that was mentioned here:

))


Maybe it's just me, but wasn't Sarv's hovercraft the one that was taken over in the last critical mission? If not, then my bad. And also, I would withdraw the avenged part for Sarv.

I'll respond later to answer some of the other points.


#36300271332 06/29/2007 11:00:13 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Heh someone was in a tuff on that one. Heh.
#36300271359 06/29/2007 11:46:36 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Mercio wrote:
Yasamuu1 wrote:
Mercio wrote:

You and your crew will be avenged.


You might also find it interesting to hear that only Sarv was jacked in, his crew themselves actually turned against Sarv when they realised the lies he had been telling to those bluepills he was trying to awaken and when he had killed his own first mate.

So, in actual fact, the crew was spared.

((Pretty sure that was mentioned here:

))


Maybe it's just me, but wasn't Sarv's hovercraft the one that was taken over in the last critical mission? If not, then my bad. And also, I would withdraw the avenged part for Sarv.

Yeah, it wasn't.

I think you've answered all my questions though. SMILEY

#36300271360 06/29/2007 11:51:17 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

I was honored to be a part of Sarv's downfall. The access codes Xissix gave me led directly to the demise of a parasite within the System.

Well done, my friends, may the deaths of our enemies never cease!

#36300271361 06/29/2007 11:51:52 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
No Mercio, Sarv's ship was called the Solstice.  Thanks for paying attention. SMILEY
#36300271368 06/29/2007 12:07:28 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Toorima got owned.
#36300271471 06/29/2007 15:13:15 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Wow. That guy really knows how to kill level 1 exiles.
#36300271478 06/29/2007 15:28:20 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Joakim wrote:
Wow. That guy really knows how to kill level 1 exiles.

They were all level 55, actually.
#36300271596 06/29/2007 18:17:03 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Yasamuu1 wrote:

Mm.

You see, I'm seeing highly respected people like PBlade and ZeroMark come out and condemn Sarv. Yet Morpheus' Legacy continues to defend a guy who lied to his first mate about his family. So who knows what lies he told the blue pills he tried awakening? See, normally I'd say something about you guys needing to change direction and make it official that you've joined EPN...but even they condemned this guy! So where does that leave you guys? I mean, are you really trying to support someone as sick as Sarv just to try and frame us as Cypherites? You're a little too ready to try and group us Machines as Cypherites. Makes me wonder really...


Your last line in this screen is what we find unacceptable and disturbing.

Feel free to explain.

#36300271622 06/29/2007 18:45:32 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Madbent wrote:
Yasamuu1 wrote:

Mm.

You see, I'm seeing highly respected people like PBlade and ZeroMark come out and condemn Sarv. Yet Morpheus' Legacy continues to defend a guy who lied to his first mate about his family. So who knows what lies he told the blue pills he tried awakening? See, normally I'd say something about you guys needing to change direction and make it official that you've joined EPN...but even they condemned this guy! So where does that leave you guys? I mean, are you really trying to support someone as sick as Sarv just to try and frame us as Cypherites? You're a little too ready to try and group us Machines as Cypherites. Makes me wonder really...


Your last line in this screen is what we find unacceptable and disturbing.

Feel free to explain.

Hey nice dodge! You guys are good at trying to pass the buck on.

Explanation: Figure of speach. I have a good relationship with Mercidos, we go way back from his days as a machine. He thanked me and I responded with a pleasantry.

#36300271632 06/29/2007 18:54:55 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Haelios wrote:
Joakim wrote:
Wow. That guy really knows how to kill level 1 exiles.

They were all level 55, actually.

I knew that.
#36300271635 06/29/2007 18:58:26 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

You know, I feel happy for Cryptos. He spent so much time under that whackadoo's white polished thumb...

((And now I have my answer as to whether or not they are still using Veil/Toorima's backstory.))

#36300271754 06/29/2007 22:40:10 [7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Cryptos wrote:
Pure awesome. 
#36300272340 07/01/2007 00:51:26 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
So? It's not like SC has a problem with working with Cypherites as long as they aren't going after Zion at the time (even though they WERE apparently, Veil at least tried to use it as such, though I'm sure SC would tell you it wasn't their intention) .
It's not like this was the first time or anything. What's so special about this one? Hell, they're pretty much justified even. Though I wonder about DJ.
Thanks Cryptos, for stopping Sarv from killing people that were(not are) overwritten. That's that many more people who might actually get recruited  the honest way SMILEY

On the death of Sarv's first mate: It's partially his own fault for lying, but two wrongs don't make a right either.. He should have confronted Sarv about his lying, rather than go to the Cyphs for help. Of course, this is assuming all of what Dreami said on the matter is true, I haven't been able to keep up with it myself. (( PC not working SMILEY ))

Is it just me or was Veil being more merciful than Cryptos >.>

edit: typos >.> oh, and added a couple in there

#36300272433 07/01/2007 05:48:35 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Skill wrote:

So? It's not like SC has a problem with working with Cypherites as long as they aren't going after Zion at the time (even though they WERE apparently, Veil at least tried to use it as such, though I'm sure SC would tell you it wasn't their intention) .

This operation was about bringing Sarv to justice, I'm not sure how Zion were affected here? So yeah, you're right to say we'll tell you it wasn't out intention SMILEY 


It's not like this was the first time or anything. What's so special about this one? Hell, they're pretty much justified even. Though I wonder about DJ.

You'll find SC will aid Cypherites in a situation like this one.

Everyone wonders about DJ... SMILEY



On the death of Sarv's first mate: It's partially his own fault for lying, but two wrongs don't make a right either.. He should have confronted Sarv about his lying, rather than go to the Cyphs for help. Of course, this is assuming all of what Dreami said on the matter is true, I haven't been able to keep up with it myself.

I'll agree with that, though, he should have been able to handle the situation better. Though when you're bluepill family comes looking for you, it might be a bit of a shock to the system.


#36300273038 07/02/2007 04:08:12 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07

I had a bad feeling about Sarv from the start. His intentions sounded good yet he's always been a bit of a loose cannon, even in comparision to some of E Pluribus Neo. That being said, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and agreed to assist him in defending the bluepills from any Cypherites.

Now, I'd like to clarify that cold blooded murder is something I try to steer clear of, if at all possible. Sure, there are times when you have to get down and dirty and I've got no problem with that. What Sarv was doing however was wrong.

Unlike giving the bluepills a choice of seeing the truth, he was using the fact that the lives of the overwritten bluepills had been shattered in some way to persuade them into taking the redpill, to "start a new life". This is why, along with his actions of killing, I did not want EPN to be any further part in his actions. There's this theory going around that we ourselves persuade bluepills in this manner and frankly I'm sick of it.

Perhaps by our actions in this you may see that we don't agree with this sort of persuasion in any way and only give the choice of a pill to those who are truely ready.

For Neo,

Khepril

#36300273075 07/02/2007 05:39:45 Re:[7.3.4] Is that understood...Toorima? - Vector - 6/27/07
Desc1ple wrote:
No Mercio, Sarv's ship was called the Soltice.  Thanks for paying attention.
... Solstice.
pwnt.