Merv/Oracle

9 posts · 2007-06-21 17:46:12 to 2007-06-23 12:16:02

#36300266324 06/21/2007 17:46:12 Merv/Oracle

 Maybe I've been missing something.  What's the big deal with the Merovingian and the Oracle? 

#36300266326 06/21/2007 17:49:44 Re:Merv/Oracle
I was always under the assumption that the issue was that the Merovingian, being the kind of program he is, desires power...and the Oracle (specifically her 'eyes' ) represent an asset that he very much desires.  Hence why he's always had a chip on his shoulder when it comes to her...she has something of great value that he wants, yet he has been unable to acquire it since he has arrived as an Exile in the system.
#36300266486 06/21/2007 22:46:29 Re:Merv/Oracle

Good question.

Maybe there's some bad blood between them over Seraph?  Perhaps Seraph sort of dumped the Merv to protect the Oracle, and the Merv is angry at having lost such a powerful asset to her?

I'm just guessing, but there is clearly a lot more history between the Merv and Seraph than we know.  Maybe some of it explains the vendetta the Merovingian has against her. 

#36300266688 06/22/2007 06:23:27 Re:Merv/Oracle

I always felt it was so spooky in Revolutions when the Merovingian, demanding the eyes of the Oracle, is sucking and chewing on the olives...

#36300266735 06/22/2007 08:00:19 Re:Merv/Oracle
sugaree wrote:

I always felt it was so spooky in Revolutions when the Merovingian, demanding the eyes of the Oracle, is sucking and chewing on the olives...

My guess is, based on that behavior, he's hoping to... add the Oracle's intuition codes to his own personal arsenal of abilities.
#36300267482 06/23/2007 08:06:02 Re:Merv/Oracle
sugaree wrote:

I always felt it was so spooky in Revolutions when the Merovingian, demanding the eyes of the Oracle, is sucking and chewing on the olives...


Never noticed the connection there. Considering his following is vamps and wolves, maybe this refers to a vampiric or canibalistic aspect of frenchie we haven't seen much of yet.
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#36300267568 06/23/2007 11:57:15 Re:Merv/Oracle
The "Eyes of the Oracle" and the olives were most likely just symbolism. He wants to consume the Oracle and rid her of the Matrix. Now, I don't believe the Merovingian can obtain the code the Oracle has. We actually see Smith do this, but this was only because she was overwritten. The Merv simply wants her deleted, as he's developing an Oracle Kill Code.

Why is there such bad blood between them? Many factor's, really. For one, both the Merv and the Oracle are two of the most powerful programs in the Matrix. What do men want with power? More power. Secondly, the Oracle helps humanity's cause. She helped Neo, Morpheus, Trinity, and I am sure many others that opposed the Merovingian. She always seems to foil his plans, as if she is one step ahead of him, and this must drive the Merv insane.
#36300267576 06/23/2007 12:12:31 Re:Merv/Oracle

Someone posted this on the Merovingian wiki page, and I think it's pretty solid:


"While the Oracle (as her name suggests) is endowed with foresight, the Merovingian is endowed with hindsight. Or restated, the Oracle's gift is inductive reasoning, whereas the Merovingian's strength is deductive reasoning. This explains why the Merovingian's worldview is based upon causality and the reason that throughout The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix Revolutions he is interested in why or how events unfold. Like all sentient programs within the Matrix (and the Machines in the real world), the Merovingian is a determinist, which is the basis for his dissertation on causality being the nature of the universe. Due to the conflicting nature between himself and the Oracle, the Merovingian decries her as a "fortune teller"; yet reveals in the third film that he secretly longs for "the eyes of the Oracle", which he believes would allow him fantastic powers of precognition.

"The Merovingian believes that the person who holds the most power is the person who understands why the current state is what it is (or how events unfolded to their current state). His deductive ability or hindsight ability also afflicts him with hindsight bias and so his personality is thus arrogant and purports to be all-knowing."

#36300267578 06/23/2007 12:16:02 Re:Merv/Oracle
Yeah, that's probably the most technical explanation you will get. SMILEY