Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007

33 posts · 2007-05-11 16:45:58 to 2007-05-21 02:20:09

#36300234690 05/11/2007 16:45:58 Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
This thread is for discussing the feature Through The Looking Glass posted on Friday, May 11, 2007.
#36300234692 05/11/2007 16:48:09 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
I seriously cannot wait for all of this to kick off. If it's an injection of life that the servers need then i'm game, 110% percent.

EDIT:

Lol @ Flood complaining about mess.
#36300234695 05/11/2007 16:54:41 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007

I cant wait to hear more on that project your planning.

And I was one of the Merovingian spies that was spying on Pace SMILEY  I love how involved we are in the story.

#36300234698 05/11/2007 16:59:44 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
Sounds like a cool project.
#36300234722 05/11/2007 17:36:58 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007

In Game Promotions?

We're currently working with our marketing guru to get some in game promotions to run across all servers. The proposal is pretty exciting and would take the help of some of the community at large. The event would be pretty interesting since it's something that it uniquely MxO. I can't really go into further details about it since we'll need to get closer to it going live for all the goodies to be revealed.

Let's just say this is a great, innovative, and uniquely MxO event/promotion.
This sounds like it could be items like Mobius Code. It was obtainable only during that event. So perhaps similar type of things here, then again i might be totoaly wrong..either way it sounds fantastic, cant wait to hear more.
#36300234739 05/11/2007 18:10:12 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
Hmm.

I think I might need to resub now...
#36300234750 05/11/2007 18:40:07 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
This is a lie it gets outsiders exited and like above makes them re-sub. Ooo SOE I like it!

hehe

TH
#36300234757 05/11/2007 18:48:58 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
Shadow-SK wrote:
Hmm.

I think I might need to resub now...
I'm not gonna resub if I don't know what it is.
But hey, if it means much: I am curious though.
#36300234762 05/11/2007 19:09:33 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
Promotions? What?

I don't know what you're saying, but it seems like you're bent on promoting the game... from inside the game?

I think there's a fault in that logic.
#36300234779 05/11/2007 19:39:17 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
I still think these Looking Glass articles are severely lacking.  SMILEY

We don't really need updates on buddy keys.  We've been through it before, and the trial periods have always proven to be a success.  When are the higher-ups going to start seeing that people want to play this game, and start allocating funds to the project to market it?

We have the term "in-game promotions" to speculate over.  You say you can't go into further detail, when in point of fact you really didn't go into any detail at all other than it's "exciting", "innovative", and "uniquely MxO".  Seems like kind of a cop-out.

And to sum it all up, we have a summary of the live events that occurred over the last week.  Anyone can check the Live Events boards and get the exact same recap with pictures included, or they could just check out the weekly Community Uplink.  Are live event recap-recaps just a way of filling up space for the Looking Glass article? 

Where's the news about the upcoming Corrupted quest?  The latest image retrievals have stirred up a lot of buzz about what could be in store for this, but it's not mentioned at all in Through The Looking Glass.  SMILEY

These articles have always been a highly anticipated source of development information every week for the community, and they've always been a great way to end a Friday.  These last few articles leave something to be desired.
#36300234786 05/11/2007 20:08:18 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007

/yawn.

I think we should at least get some hint on what the event is going to be.  Because these weekly editions are basically nothing.

#36300234811 05/11/2007 21:43:04 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007

Thanks for the quick run-down of events Raijinn. With things the way they are for me in the Real lately I don't have time to go through all the live event stuff all the time. I barely have time to Jack-in. hahaha. That overview helps me out a great deal. ;D

Cheers!

#36300234884 05/12/2007 02:50:38 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
ThHidden01 wrote:
This is a lie it gets outsiders exited and like above makes them re-sub. Ooo SOE I like it!

hehe

TH


If they are going to lie to get more subs, they should have said that they have been given everything by SOE to make an expansion for MxO SMILEY

Eitherway, this does sound very intriuging.

#36300234885 05/12/2007 02:51:34 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007

The promotion sounds interesting... as long as it's coupled with some sort of new player intake (another buddy key or the perma trial) then it will be definately be a good idea, especially if it coencides with rare's extension of the newbie trail.

If it's not timed right then it'll just be another wasted opportunity like these current wave of keys are.

As for the article itself, you're our CRM raijinn, Community Relations Manager. Don't be afraid to tackle Community Issues in these articles either, its what they're for. A full public explaination of name changes would've been nice for a start.

#36300234950 05/12/2007 06:09:16 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
From the way Raj put it, it makes me think that the 'in-game promotions' are something along the lines of the Under Armour shirts.  Because promoting MxO from inside MxO doesn't seem like it would work.  

It'd be wierd trying to RP when you see a billboard with 'Jack In.  The Matrix Online' pasted up there. SMILEY


I am very curious about what the promotions are.
#36300234958 05/12/2007 06:37:11 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
ManicV wrote:
I still think these Looking Glass articles are severely lacking.  SMILEY


I agree with the above point, there certainly needs more info on these. However, Rai is still getting into the role, and I'm sure he'll get better at it as time goes by. Remember there were times when even Walrus just talked about office competitions!

I am intrigued by promotion aspect of it, obviously it's pointless advertising the game 'in game' unless they are trying to make web adverts of in game sequences... Still it'll be fun trying to work it out, I just hope the community at large isn't disappointed when it is revealed.
#36300235918 05/13/2007 08:43:14 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
I don't mind the summaries so much. Especially since the local newspaper hasn't delivered for awhile (I need to have a word with the manager of that newspaper-stand chain =P). But I admit, I also was hoping for a little more development wise. There's really good stuff coming and the word needs to get out.  It's good to here about the promotions but I'd really love more promotion of us outside than promotion of others inside...
#36300236565 05/14/2007 12:11:26 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
Man, I miss Walrus' BS.  Promotion...bah..humbug.

#36300236840 05/14/2007 19:23:17 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
great update, really happy with it
#36300237026 05/15/2007 02:17:06 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007

Perhaps someone could help me out, because I've obviously missed something along the way.

The last I saw of Seraph he was still on his corrupted madness trip.  What happened in between then and his 'return' to The Oracle?

#36300237042 05/15/2007 03:07:30 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
exsuscito wrote:

Perhaps someone could help me out, because I've obviously missed something along the way.

The last I saw of Seraph he was still on his corrupted madness trip.  What happened in between then and his 'return' to The Oracle?


I was dissappointed about that aswell, untill the archives come out, unless you are Zion (possibally mach) you dont hear much on it, he just changed SMILEY
Darkhawk's Gallery | Section 9's Past | Metal Gear?! It's already active?!
There can only be room for one Snake, and one Big Boss!
#36300238225 05/16/2007 19:40:28 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
i thaught i heard we were geting a new launchpad to any news on when thats gonna hapen?
#36300238467 05/17/2007 03:42:15 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
ManicV wrote:
I still think these Looking Glass articles are severely lacking.  SMILEY

We don't really need updates on buddy keys.  We've been through it before, and the trial periods have always proven to be a success.  When are the higher-ups going to start seeing that people want to play this game, and start allocating funds to the project to market it?

We have the term "in-game promotions" to speculate over.  You say you can't go into further detail, when in point of fact you really didn't go into any detail at all other than it's "exciting", "innovative", and "uniquely MxO".  Seems like kind of a cop-out.

And to sum it all up, we have a summary of the live events that occurred over the last week.  Anyone can check the Live Events boards and get the exact same recap with pictures included, or they could just check out the weekly Community Uplink.  Are live event recap-recaps just a way of filling up space for the Looking Glass article? 

Where's the news about the upcoming Corrupted quest?  The latest image retrievals have stirred up a lot of buzz about what could be in store for this, but it's not mentioned at all in Through The Looking Glass.  SMILEY

These articles have always been a highly anticipated source of development information every week for the community, and they've always been a great way to end a Friday.  These last few articles leave something to be desired.
i would agree...
#36300238472 05/17/2007 03:50:06 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
supersdcurge wrote:
ManicV wrote:
I still think these Looking Glass articles are severely lacking.  SMILEY

We don't really need updates on buddy keys.  We've been through it before, and the trial periods have always proven to be a success.  When are the higher-ups going to start seeing that people want to play this game, and start allocating funds to the project to market it?

We have the term "in-game promotions" to speculate over.  You say you can't go into further detail, when in point of fact you really didn't go into any detail at all other than it's "exciting", "innovative", and "uniquely MxO".  Seems like kind of a cop-out.

And to sum it all up, we have a summary of the live events that occurred over the last week.  Anyone can check the Live Events boards and get the exact same recap with pictures included, or they could just check out the weekly Community Uplink.  Are live event recap-recaps just a way of filling up space for the Looking Glass article? 

Where's the news about the upcoming Corrupted quest?  The latest image retrievals have stirred up a lot of buzz about what could be in store for this, but it's not mentioned at all in Through The Looking Glass.  SMILEY

These articles have always been a highly anticipated source of development information every week for the community, and they've always been a great way to end a Friday.  These last few articles leave something to be desired.


i would agree...

#36300238541 05/17/2007 05:18:32 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
exsuscito wrote:

Perhaps someone could help me out, because I've obviously missed something along the way.

The last I saw of Seraph he was still on his corrupted madness trip.  What happened in between then and his 'return' to The Oracle?


He finished removing the programs from all the overwritten people he could find, so he went back to Oracle SMILEY

#36300239406 05/17/2007 19:18:43 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
NightTrace wrote:
supersdcurge wrote:
ManicV wrote:
I still think these Looking Glass articles are severely lacking.  SMILEY

We don't really need updates on buddy keys.  We've been through it before, and the trial periods have always proven to be a success.  When are the higher-ups going to start seeing that people want to play this game, and start allocating funds to the project to market it?

We have the term "in-game promotions" to speculate over.  You say you can't go into further detail, when in point of fact you really didn't go into any detail at all other than it's "exciting", "innovative", and "uniquely MxO".  Seems like kind of a cop-out.

And to sum it all up, we have a summary of the live events that occurred over the last week.  Anyone can check the Live Events boards and get the exact same recap with pictures included, or they could just check out the weekly Community Uplink.  Are live event recap-recaps just a way of filling up space for the Looking Glass article? 

Where's the news about the upcoming Corrupted quest?  The latest image retrievals have stirred up a lot of buzz about what could be in store for this, but it's not mentioned at all in Through The Looking Glass.  SMILEY

These articles have always been a highly anticipated source of development information every week for the community, and they've always been a great way to end a Friday.  These last few articles leave something to be desired.
i would agree...

I've explained this a few times -- this isn't the same article as the previous "Other Side". This is a more community centric article that will have some dev goodies here and there when I hear word of something but it won't be on a week to week basis.

The problem I think most people are having is the fact that the article *IS* different  and again I've made it rather clear that it *WILL* be a different article so it is what it is.

I'm all for giving out as much dev info as possible but the simple fact is that information isn't going to come about every week.

Sorry folks.
Regards,
Joel "Raijinn" Sasaki
Raijinn

Temet Nosce
#36300239571 05/18/2007 03:54:51 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
Raijinn wrote:
NightTrace wrote:
supersdcurge wrote:
ManicV wrote:
I still think these Looking Glass articles are severely lacking.  SMILEY

We don't really need updates on buddy keys.  We've been through it before, and the trial periods have always proven to be a success.  When are the higher-ups going to start seeing that people want to play this game, and start allocating funds to the project to market it?

We have the term "in-game promotions" to speculate over.  You say you can't go into further detail, when in point of fact you really didn't go into any detail at all other than it's "exciting", "innovative", and "uniquely MxO".  Seems like kind of a cop-out.

And to sum it all up, we have a summary of the live events that occurred over the last week.  Anyone can check the Live Events boards and get the exact same recap with pictures included, or they could just check out the weekly Community Uplink.  Are live event recap-recaps just a way of filling up space for the Looking Glass article? 

Where's the news about the upcoming Corrupted quest?  The latest image retrievals have stirred up a lot of buzz about what could be in store for this, but it's not mentioned at all in Through The Looking Glass.  SMILEY

These articles have always been a highly anticipated source of development information every week for the community, and they've always been a great way to end a Friday.  These last few articles leave something to be desired.
i would agree...

I've explained this a few times -- this isn't the same article as the previous "Other Side". This is a more community centric article that will have some dev goodies here and there when I hear word of something but it won't be on a week to week basis.

The problem I think most people are having is the fact that the article *IS* different  and again I've made it rather clear that it *WILL* be a different article so it is what it is.

I'm all for giving out as much dev info as possible but the simple fact is that information isn't going to come about every week.

Sorry folks.
Understandable.

GF, nice 1 v 1, all me son!
#36300241423 05/20/2007 13:38:42 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
deviljonny wrote:
Raijinn wrote:
NightTrace wrote:
supersdcurge wrote:
ManicV wrote:
I still think these Looking Glass articles are severely lacking.  SMILEY

We don't really need updates on buddy keys.  We've been through it before, and the trial periods have always proven to be a success.  When are the higher-ups going to start seeing that people want to play this game, and start allocating funds to the project to market it?

We have the term "in-game promotions" to speculate over.  You say you can't go into further detail, when in point of fact you really didn't go into any detail at all other than it's "exciting", "innovative", and "uniquely MxO".  Seems like kind of a cop-out.

And to sum it all up, we have a summary of the live events that occurred over the last week.  Anyone can check the Live Events boards and get the exact same recap with pictures included, or they could just check out the weekly Community Uplink.  Are live event recap-recaps just a way of filling up space for the Looking Glass article? 

Where's the news about the upcoming Corrupted quest?  The latest image retrievals have stirred up a lot of buzz about what could be in store for this, but it's not mentioned at all in Through The Looking Glass.  SMILEY

These articles have always been a highly anticipated source of development information every week for the community, and they've always been a great way to end a Friday.  These last few articles leave something to be desired.
i would agree...

I've explained this a few times -- this isn't the same article as the previous "Other Side". This is a more community centric article that will have some dev goodies here and there when I hear word of something but it won't be on a week to week basis.

The problem I think most people are having is the fact that the article *IS* different  and again I've made it rather clear that it *WILL* be a different article so it is what it is.

I'm all for giving out as much dev info as possible but the simple fact is that information isn't going to come about every week.

Sorry folks.
Understandable.

It is understandable, to a point. I agree, in so far as my understanding of the situation goes, the reason your articles seem to lack the same in depth information is because you are in fact not really involved with MxO outside of being its CRM. Walrus was also the production managers, so he had a very in depth knowladge of what was going on. However, because I understand that does not mean I have to enjoy it. We here at the MxO community [and if you disagree you can post as much] have come to expect a certain level of "service" from the communications we get from our CRMs. To go from the page+ long OSOTLG's from Walrus, to your three paragraph copy paste "lip service" postings is a huge let down. We were all told to give you a chance [hell, Walrus sent me a PM to do as much before he left O_x], and I think we have and still are. But just because we're giving you that chance, doesnt mean we cant vocalize what we would like to see an improvement in. We pay our $15, and one of the things we've come to expect is the weekly read from these articles. I dont think it is unfair of us to ask you to beef them up, especially when you do show a more in depth approach to some of the other games that you also are the CRM of.

-Trace

#36300241441 05/20/2007 13:53:37 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
I kinda understand that Raj can't get any good information about upcoming content and stuff. I rather read all about upcoming patches, fixes and alike than to read this but if that's how it's gonna be then so be it. OSOTLG and the Image thing were the only 2 articles I visited DN1 for. The whole website is becoming quite useless for me because I can find more information on this forum.

Anyway, as a CRM, I thought it's part of the job to get involved with the community?
Apart from getting some scoops about future content, or small hints, whatevever, Walrus was also pretty involved with the community itself.
And when something got out of hand on the forums, or a major exploit/bug was found, or whatever big thing there was: We could read about it on friday and sometimes there was a solution given as well, but at least we knew the MXO team was working on improving what the players found out.

If this all cannot be done anymore then so be it. I can understand that.
#36300241442 05/20/2007 13:55:45 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
Reeverb wrote:
And when something got out of hand on the forums

Apparently the new shift in CRM has also included a shift to "shhh dont rock the boat, and never admit it if the boat did in fact rock"
#36300241456 05/20/2007 14:15:32 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
NightTrace wrote:
Reeverb wrote:
And when something got out of hand on the forums
Apparently the new shift in CRM has also included a shift to "shhh dont rock the boat, and never admit it if the boat did in fact rock"
Ah, yes, for we all know ignoring problems gets rid off players frustration. GGsoe.
#36300241603 05/20/2007 16:44:25 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
Oh, don't you start with that GG<whatever> nonsense. If I see that even once on the TGS forums... SMILEY
#36300241740 05/21/2007 02:20:09 Re:Through The Looking Glass - May 11 , 2007
NightTrace wrote:
It is understandable, to a point. I agree, in so far as my understanding of the situation goes, the reason your articles seem to lack the same in depth information is because you are in fact not really involved with MxO outside of being its CRM. Walrus was also the production managers, so he had a very in depth knowladge of what was going on. However, because I understand that does not mean I have to enjoy it. We here at the MxO community [and if you disagree you can post as much] have come to expect a certain level of "service" from the communications we get from our CRMs. To go from the page+ long OSOTLG's from Walrus, to your three paragraph copy paste "lip service" postings is a huge let down. We were all told to give you a chance [hell, Walrus sent me a PM to do as much before he left O_x], and I think we have and still are. But just because we're giving you that chance, doesnt mean we cant vocalize what we would like to see an improvement in. We pay our $15, and one of the things we've come to expect is the weekly read from these articles. I dont think it is unfair of us to ask you to beef them up, especially when you do show a more in depth approach to some of the other games that you also are the CRM of.

-Trace

<3