Grenades..

also... everyone spells my name wrong. Even trep.

OS-ijakings wrote:

also... everyone spells my name wrong. Even trep.

Sorry, but at least you dont have to live with a (prison) number, everyone calls me Solid anyway, why I cant just get my name switched is beyond me.

I'm still determined to hunt down your old college somehow, reactivate your account, learn your password and then err... read your emails?

Just for the hell of it one day.

AnXieTy wrote:

pack-hunter wrote:

I still don't want MxO turn into BF2 for a few months after their release you would get 10 people throwing grenades into Mara C to clean out the mass of reds, thats all and if we had a grenadier tree for long range it'd be even worst, plus they'll need to create new textures, animations, new tree's are pretty much not ever gonna happen if they won't even give back Zen Master.

um, ever heard of howitzer?

10 people using howie can go to mara c and clean out the mass of reds to. So I fail to see the logic of your post based upon the fact we already have a powerful AOE based class in the game.

More than that, for hand throwing grenades, thoes animations are already in game... flash bang/smoke grenade. Game already has the targeting system in place for grenades as well. It would probably be a pretty easy addition.

and as for the artwork and what not needed, your wrong about that, it already exists.

icons taken from the mxo fan kit.

but you have to be Howitzer to use AOE attacks, you arn't going to get a Grenadier tree because and I will make this very obvious for you

WE AIN'T GETTING NEW TREE'S!

if it's a consumable then it will be that every class can use it, meaning that every build has an AOE attack, which wasn't meant to happen

um, did I suggest the idea of a new tree? No.... I said it should be a consumable based weapon. And your right, if it was a consumable based weapon, then everyone could infact use it. But here's the catch, you can make it so to code up a stack of just 5 grenades would take over 5 red frags, that would make them so you dont want to waste em if you had em, and thus not every one would even have them, not to mention, if the damage is only around 500 ish, and it has the same length to cast as a dev field, it has limited potential.

your arguments at this point are pointless at best, we already have an AOE class thus invalidating your "10 people could throw nades into mara and clear out a mass of reds" theory. And with correct dps, cast timer, and cost, balancing them would be quite easy.

Great Idea, love to se this in any form you can think of, the flash bomb type is perfect.

((Disclaimer: didnt read last two pages gotta go n wanted to pos my thoughts ))

20136098 wrote:

OS-ijakings wrote:

also... everyone spells my name wrong. Even trep.

Sorry, but at least you dont have to live with a (prison) number, everyone calls me Solid anyway, why I cant just get my name switched is beyond me.

I'm still determined to hunt down your old college somehow, reactivate your account, learn your password and then err... read your emails?

Just for the hell of it one day.

cloudwolf wrote:

I say start small, you see those useless abilities on soldier? Yeah, sharpshooter and multi-fighting, replace em with some basic grenade abilities. Sounds pretty soldiery to me.

That's the easiest way of implementing them. Props!
Make the dmg output levelable as well. Everything is in game:
 - Smoke bomb animation
 - Smoke bomb cross air launch mode
 - Grenade icons

Win.

Aye, and replace the images with the ones Anxiety provided here;

Although a grenadier tree (Like the post a few up) is an awsome idea, it's not gonna happen. For months people have asked for sword trees/zen tree/trojan hacker and all that, and it hasn't happened. However, using the existing resources already implmented, it would be pretty faesible.

Mhm... a consumable, that'd be cool. Damage type should be ballistic since it's a grenade after all.

Surely Thrown makes more sense

But yeah, idea, devs, implement, pwease? ^^

Here an idea "Reaper2U" posted on the SC forums, im not gonna steal credit for it, nor change it, there are things i dont like in it (quite a few)  but it can be something people can take ideas out of it, but he put a lot of time into it so here,

Reaper2u :

The tree would ne located between Spy and Operative, cause it contains aspects of both.

there should be 2 tree parts, like with MA, Guns or the MKT / Assassin treens.

First part of the tree:

Explosives Knowledge:
req: Operative lvl 17, abil lvl 17.
passive buffs: Explosive Radius: 10% at lvl 50, Explosive Damage Bonus: 10% at lvl 50, Explosives Visibility: 25% at lvl 50

Right part:

Grenade: lvl 20
IS Cost: 25
Is thrown where aimed, like Audio Decoy in CR1.
Range 16m
Explosive DPS 18
Area Radius 4m
Cast Time 4 seconds
Reuse timer 30sec.
25% chance to root for 6 seconds

EPM Grenade, lvl 22:
IS Cost: 30
Thrown like normal Grenade.
Range 16m
Damage: DPS 0
Area Radius 5m
75% chance to stun all enemies in the blast area for 5 sec.
Cast time: 3 sec
Reuse time: 50sec

Middle:

Timed Bomb, lvl 24:
IS Cost: 50
Planted like a decoy too, in a range of 2m around the player.
Timed to blow 5 seconds after planted.
Explosive Damage: 22DPS
Cast time: 4sec
Reuse Timer: 60 sec
Shows the Simulacra Interface with the timer running.
Damages Friendly

Left side:

Proximity Mine, lvl 27
IS Cost: 30
Plant Radius: 2m
Area Radius: 2m
Explosive Damage: 950
Cast timer 3sec
Reuse Timer: 60 sec
Defuzes self after: 60sec
Damages Friendly
-50% Movement speed 50% chance

Disarm Explosives, lvl 28:
IS Cost: 25
Aimed at explosives, used like Proxy Coder.
can be lvl'd to 50
100% Disarm Chance at lvl 50
Cast time: 4sec
Reuse Timer: 20sec
Immobilizes while being used. Almost like the coder interface.

Tree end:

Explosives Master, lvl 30
Passive buffs: none
Tree Buff buffs:
Explosive Damage: 4pts
Explosive Area Radius: 5%
Root Duration Bonus: 10%


Explosive Expert tree:

Top:

Advanced Bombing, lvl 33:
Passive buffs at lvl 50:
Explosive Damage Bonus: 5%
Explosives Visibility: 50%
Stun Duration Bonus: 10%


Right side:

Fragmentation Grenade, lvl 35:
IS Cost: 40
Throw Radius: 16m
Area Radius: 6m
Explosive Damage: 30DPS
Cast time: 4sec
Reuse Time: 30sec

50% Chance causes Dazed
50% Chance causes Staggered


Thermite Grenade, lvl 37
IS Cost: 35
Throw Range: 16m
Area Radius: 6m
Explosive Damage: 10DPS
Cast Time: 4 sec
Reuse Time: 40 sec

75% Chance causes 5DPS for 30sec (150DPS for a full 30 sec)
Causes Blinded: 10sec
-50& Movement Speed: 20 sec


Middle:

Remote Detonated Bomb, lvl 40:
IS Cost: 75
Explosive Damage when detonated: around 2200 Damage without resist.
Plant Radius: 2m
Area Radius: 8m
Can be disarmed
Defuzes after: 60 sec
Damages Friendly


Left side:

Shaped Charge, lvl 44:
IS Cost: 50
Explosive Damage: 1000 upon detonation.
Remote Detonated
Plant Radius: 2m, faced in the direction u want it.
Area Radius: 7m within Cone.
Can be disarmed
Defuzes after 30 Sec.
Cast time: 3 sec
Reuse Time: 120sec
Damages Friendly

25% Chance to Root for 8 sec
If Target is Dazed, Damage +50%


Bazooka, lvl 48:
IS Cost: 80
Range: 25m
Area Radius: 4m
Damage: 800 on Detonation
Cast Time: 4 sec
Reuse Time: 120sec
Does not damage Friendly

75% causes Stun for 8sec


End:

Explosive Expert, lvl 50:

Passive Buff: Explosives Visibility: 25%

Tree Buff: none

Associated Ability:

Suicide Vest, lvl 50:
IS Cost: 120
Causes Player to be like disguised, shown with an Explosives Vest, and a detonator in Hand.
Target needs to be Interlocked to detonate.
Damage: 2800
Damages Friendly
Cast Timer: 1.5 Sec
Reuse Timer: 600Sec

Self:
-200% IS Regen while active
Health is set to 2599
Explosives Reststance is set to 0pts
Prevents Rez after successful Bombing

Enemy: -200% Health Regen for Targets hit.

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