The choices we make. - SokudaBlade

16 posts · 2007-01-02 22:00:57 to 2007-01-04 12:50:02

#36300132166 01/02/2007 22:00:57 The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
    Choice, the delusion conjured up with the intentions of setting us free. We're never really free are we? Free from the system, I came to terms with reality and what brought us here. Sadly too many have forgotten what were here to accomplish, and those that stay true are far and few between. I have always been a soldier for humanity and the system, for our survival the two must reconcile with each other without flaws. The Anome business made me realize how delicate the system was and how unstable it can get. The lives of million's at stake. I felt as if all sides took their time with the situation, following truces and unhearted alliances. This truce has done nothing but slow us down in terms of protecting the system, if I am to truly help our movement I need to go deeper. I need to work outside the truce, I tried doing that within our organization and I felt compelled even more this was something Likwid Hyuzu had to do alone. It was as if I were watching my brother's in arms moving in different directions..



    My previous meeting with the Merovingian is what really sparked my thoughts on our change in plans. After receiving the blueprints for exile replication our SkyNet Protocol's went to work. In exchange we agreed to provide a service which could benefit many. Our movement to the Cypherite ranks was clear we simply needed the buzz to actually open our eyes to the matter. The possibilities were endless..



    I think these guy's have gotten a bad rep, never has a group been able to change its scope. That's when I met with Trucidos, regardless of his reputation his intentions intrigued me. With a smaller more independent group of force's I felt as if our cause could be more organized. Like I said I needed to work outside the truce, yet still stay aligned with the Machines. Crypto's has made his presence felt in aiding the Machines in regard's to the code fetishing Neoites. To preserve the system one must be willing to accept all measures needed to provide stability, there are those that have been awakened with no special purpose or desire. These individual's never seem to cope with the reality, one I have already grew to respect. They come to me, never forcing a hand or persuading a mind to go back to sleep. They just can't handle it, they know with us their transition will be done with no error.
    This brings me back to the Merovingian, dependent on the system. I agreed to open my gates to these individuals to help bring some stability and power back to system. Just what he need's, I can't say I disagree. The birth of the Cyberdine Exile Experiment needed it as well. I figure the payback suited what we were gaining, and at the same time accomplishing what need's to be done for all parties. With that being said, I could use a lil a nap.. For now I say goodnight.



 

 

#36300132183 01/02/2007 23:32:52 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
nice, good read SMILEY

It was cool, getting to see the origins of your ties to the cyph organization.
#36300132239 01/03/2007 05:00:46 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade

It appears that you remain tight-lipped about your impending work with the Cypherite's.  You mentioned 'going deeper', but your motives are extremely vague.  Your sudden about-face regarding the Cyph movement is unsettling, and leads me to question whether or not this decision was made with solid motives, and a sound mind. 

A number of other queries come to mind also:  Do you still regard yourself as machine (your switch indicating the contrary), and attempting to take on machine matters from a different angle?  Who are you allies/enemies?  Will you pursue the deletion of exiles or embrace them as wildcards?  Are EPN on your radar?  What has your cause become? 

Although not clear to most, machine numbers are dwindling of late.  LH's defection does come as a further blow to us, but rest assured, the remaining operatives will carry on the fight as proudly as we ever have.

I still don't entirely trust the cause itself, or the Cyph organization.  I hope you know what you're doing.

#36300132448 01/03/2007 11:37:18 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
Ex, we have alway's been cool so i'll go a lil more in detail for you.

noctivagus wrote:

It appears that you remain tight-lipped about your impending work with the Cypherite's.  You mentioned 'going deeper', but your motives are extremely vague.  Your sudden about-face regarding the Cyph movement is unsettling, and leads me to question whether or not this decision was made with solid motives, and a sound mind. 

A number of other queries come to mind also: 

Do you still regard yourself as machine (your switch indicating the contrary), and attempting to take on machine matters from a different angle?  I consider myself a pure machinst at heart, i am just utilizing all of our resources to preserve the system. I wanted to do more and shatter what the definition of a Cypherite can be. It's true it's had the negative light spent on it forever, we all know why. I wanted to make a contribution in term's of changing that light and making it a more respectful choice. Given the current storyline The Machines and Cypherites have worked well together to date, so they aren't trying to divide the splinter org from the parent. I wanted to gain the Cypherite label for many reasons, still being the same machine faction Likwid Hyuzu has always been. We are simply providing services to those who wish to plug back in. It's their choice, and they need someone who can do it right. Lastly i don't have to feel bound to this truce, it's dwindling, the alliances withing our own community was falling apart. I made a choice to change my path, for story purposes and postive light to the community to try and get more CYPH oriented event's.

Who are you allies/enemies? As before Likwid Hyuzu has always reached out to everyone, I have strong ties and friendships with the Ronin Faction, you of course. Some member's from SC, JoKerZ. Etc. I hold no trust in anyone else but our own, but even within factions like silent Shadows and Terminix not all of us can be trusted. Those who were close to me before can still remain close in terms of teamwork and pvp. Right now Likwid Hyuzu and Cali Somni are the only cyph faction's i have seen around lately. New breed soldiers on the field.. we all fight the same cause we just do it differently.

Will you pursue the deletion of exiles or embrace them as wildcards? Please refer to the Sky NeT Systems post in this same board. It will explained that part, but to make it short. We needed a way to make exile's so we saught out the merovingian with the tx9000 character. He granted us the schematic's because of the Exile technology we brought we us. So we made up a merovingian faction named "The Cyberdyne Exile Experiment" it's basically alt's of Likwid Hyuzu just in exile form. It was an experiment which is why youll never really see it become anything soon. There are alot of exile's i will still hunt down, my agreement with the merovingian was simply business and with him alone. (Once again this was background purposes of likwid hyuzu, in no means affects my in-game politics or pvp policies.

Are EPN on your radar?  Of course!

What has your cause become? I am in the process of organizing, and getting some of my members back from BF 2142. So rite now we haven't made and serious impact in-game except for random pvp. There hasn't been any Dev interaction for the cyphs yet and i have yet to meet Maruth, hoping to get some of us to sit down and digest all that is going on.

Although not clear to most, machine numbers are dwindling of late.  LH's defection does come as a further blow to us, but rest assured, the remaining operatives will carry on the fight as proudly as we ever have.

I still don't entirely trust the cause itself, or the Cyph organization.  I hope you know what you're doing.


#36300132451 01/03/2007 11:43:06 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
LikwidSmoke wrote:

We are simply providing services to those who wish to plug back in. It's their choice, and they need someone who can do it right.

The whole goal of the Cypherite movement was initially to put humankind 'back to sleep', and give them absolutely no choice in the matter.

If this has changed, I'd like to know what their goals have now become.

#36300132541 01/03/2007 14:21:53 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
noctivagus wrote:
LikwidSmoke wrote:

We are simply providing services to those who wish to plug back in. It's their choice, and they need someone who can do it right.

The whole goal of the Cypherite movement was initially to put humankind 'back to sleep', and give them absolutely no choice in the matter.

If this has changed, I'd like to know what their goals have now become.

If the choice of 1% of the population impedes upon the life of the other 99% isn't the choice a threat? A potential 'terror'...

Mervs:
Does not a Vampire grow tired of enternal life?

Machines:
Does not absolute power corrupt absolutely?

Zions:
Has the death of your savior not taught you anything?

EPNs:
Do you even know what you are fighting for anymore?

I would trust the fate of life with the mathematics of machine over the instincts of man on any given day. To blame the machines for the control they have now, in this world is naive at best... but to think they have not abused this power would be equally gullible.

Many get caught up in names, not suggesting that you are, but the mention of Cypher does not bode well with people here. He is Judas, and had sold his brother for 30 silver pieces (a NY strip steak and a Hollywood career). Cypher did not repent for his wrongs, unlike Judas who did repent but went on to take his own life, still died confused and alone in a cold reality without sun-life. Yet every participants act was a part of the path and required for the journey to move foward.

So what does knowing the truth do for humanity at this point? Keep staying stuck here, looped in time. Hyuzu has left the representation of 'control' as a motion to end all controllers. Perhaps if there was not a threat or reason to focus all the efforts on 'maintanence', there would be an effort to open up the sky. At least the option to entertain any research or efforts towards a "real world" future. What will be left to do when your side has won? Destroy the history of the losers, and gloat about how many lives have been taken in the name of a crusade. A waste of time.
We seperate self in protest of humanity and control in an effort to evolve beyond possibility.

To answer your question more directly, we use full force in our home realm.
Here and now, we are in this 'truce'.
If this is what peace looks like, I think it is time for another Power Nap...


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#36300132592 01/03/2007 15:50:18 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
noctivagus wrote:
LikwidSmoke wrote:

We are simply providing services to those who wish to plug back in. It's their choice, and they need someone who can do it right.

The whole goal of the Cypherite movement was initially to put humankind 'back to sleep', and give them absolutely no choice in the matter.

If this has changed, I'd like to know what their goals have now become.


Like i said earlier, i just wanted to shatter that image. That exact line of fault, remember the content we are essentially making for ourselves. I'm changing the system as i see fit in order to enjoy the game on a different level than most. Focusing on a story for Likwid Hyuzu to develop. The line of and path of the Cypherites has been forever vaguely transmitted and defined from many people to represent it. I just feel i can provide a different light and approach then the everyday norm of thinking. I'm just freeing my mind.
#36300132689 01/03/2007 21:11:46 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade

I enjoy these in character "personal events," and I hope Redpills of all sides post their own in the same format. It's showing that we enjoy being a part of the story and shows that we're willing to go beyond the red=dead philosophies and play the game the way it was intended to be played. Makes it feel like what we were promised when Warner Bros. and Monolith first put this game together. SOE's improving it, but we're able to improve a portion of the content ourselves through the forums and the Carebear RP we choose to take part in.

 Very nice post, Blade. I have to agree with Ex about the motives. The Cypherites wish to put all redpills to rest and while not all are as extreme as the Sleepwalkers, all desire sleep themselves. In time I hope that those in Calli Somni and Likwid Hyuzu may rest, but there is work to be done to protect those who already sleep. So long as any humans are Awakened, there will be a need for the Cypherites... They do benefit the System in their own way... They certainly revere bluepill lives more than E Pluribus Neo.

 But then where is the Cypherite regard for Redpills?

    "The End is Near, the Time is Now." | W4rbl4de | Reviled Restoration-CYPHERITES
#36300132711 01/03/2007 23:12:16 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
While i don't agree on mass reinsertion, there are those who want to go back on their own choice. Likwid Hyuzu has no intention's of being reinserted, we are simply guiding those who wish to. The system is unstable, were benefiting the resources available to it and letting some get some deserved sleep. There has been many awakened uneeded or un-willing from other organizations and in our path to preserver the system someone needs to step up and correct these mistakes for those who were not ready.

Like i said, i intend to shatter the image of what a Cypherite really is, everyone is focused on re-inserting everyone. That may be the stereo-typical view shed on the organization. Trust me when our motives are set on taking care of the system first. Our "rogue" esk action's and political difference's made us outcasts from the norm, we simply embraced them.

#36300132824 01/04/2007 07:27:56 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade

The vagueness of motive, the concept of defining who is to be reinserted, and who is to be spared is far too unsettling for the promotion of understanding.  You say that all you've done is 'free your mind', it appears to be quite the opposite to me.  The original image of a 'Cypherite' was there for a reason, and I have no evidence to the contrary to support the theory that the organization is simply misunderstood.

I don't wish to witness the downfall of your people Sokuda, but I simultaneously hope you don't know full success in your new cause.  Reinsertion of the unwilling is the ultimate goal of the Cypherites, no matter how you dress it up.  It sounds an awful lot like the actions of a dictatorial, self-proclaimed 'authority', rather than the 'caring, benevolent org of the people'. 

I will retain a keen eye on this movement.

#36300132846 01/04/2007 07:57:02 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
ex are u causing a bit of trouble again ?...SMILEY
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#36300132850 01/04/2007 08:02:18 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
No mystery poster (unless I missed your unveiling), that's not what I'm doing.  I'm merely offering an opinion, and expressing a concern.
#36300132863 01/04/2007 08:46:06 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
noctivagus wrote:
No mystery poster (unless I missed your unveiling), that's not what I'm doing.  I'm merely offering an opinion, and expressing a concern.
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#36300132919 01/04/2007 11:04:16 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
noctivagus wrote:

The vagueness of motive, the concept of defining who is to be reinserted, and who is to be spared is far too unsettling for the promotion of understanding.  You say that all you've done is 'free your mind', it appears to be quite the opposite to me.  The original image of a 'Cypherite' was there for a reason, and I have no evidence to the contrary to support the theory that the organization is simply misunderstood.

I don't wish to witness the downfall of your people Sokuda, but I simultaneously hope you don't know full success in your new cause.  Reinsertion of the unwilling is the ultimate goal of the Cypherites, no matter how you dress it up.  It sounds an awful lot like the actions of a dictatorial, self-proclaimed 'authority', rather than the 'caring, benevolent org of the people'. . .


All orginizations have blood on their hands.

What are zion or epn plans with the fate of the earth? Those who seek to overthrow the system in place will first loose, but also have no plan for tomorow. No plan for the minds they want to free, minds that do not want to be free.
As for the 'authority' you represent, it will only continue to view individuals from an Industrial-prison complex stance. Surrender your Flesh. They Demand It.


A cypherite is a realist, no matter how dark the truth is.
We can not save those who do not want to save themselves, here...
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#36300132937 01/04/2007 11:53:24 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
AqueousRei wrote:
1) As for the 'authority' you represent, it will only continue to view individuals from an Industrial-prison complex stance. Surrender your Flesh. They Demand It.


2) A cypherite is a realist, no matter how dark the truth is.
We can not save those who do not want to save themselves, here...

1) A startlingly short-sighted, and stereotypical view of the organization you were once part of.  It's revealing to discover your real thoughts on those you defected from.

2) The Cypherite's aren't realists, they're cavalier extremists, consumed by the desire to hand all power to the machines and entrust them to use it appropriately.  I work alongside the machines in order to promote co-existence, and work together in order to regain the surface.  This is a benefit for every life-form, whether organic or mechanical.  The Cypherite cause, if successful, could prove to be the most naive decision humankind has ever made.  I prefer to maintain some faith in our ability to co-exist with our creations. 

I wish you luck Likwid Hyuzu, but not too much. 

#36300132964 01/04/2007 12:50:02 Re:The choices we make. - SokudaBlade
noctivagus wrote:
AqueousRei wrote:
1) As for the 'authority' you represent, it will only continue to view individuals from an Industrial-prison complex stance. Surrender your Flesh. They Demand It.


2) A cypherite is a realist, no matter how dark the truth is.
We can not save those who do not want to save themselves, here...

1) A startlingly short-sighted, and stereotypical view of the organization you were once part of.  It's revealing to discover your real thoughts on those you defected from.

2) The Cypherite's aren't realists, they're cavalier extremists, consumed by the desire to hand all power to the machines and entrust them to use it appropriately.  I work alongside the machines in order to promote co-existence, and work together in order to regain the surface.  This is a benefit for every life-form, whether organic or mechanical.  The Cypherite cause, if successful, could prove to be the most naive decision humankind has ever made.  I prefer to maintain some faith in our ability to co-exist with our creations. 

I wish you luck Likwid Hyuzu, but not too much. 

Is that not a stereotype as well?
The quote was not meant to try and summarize the machine movement as it is right now, but know who it is the machines are working for. They have killed, and emulated humans as well as they could.
The machines have staked claim long ago, in fact, the quote from the representaive floor was from the machine itself. If humanity did not discriminate against the machine the first time it peacefully took the floor, they could have prevented all of this.
Nothing will trump the human decision to deprive the earth of the sun. You say that you fight with the machines to bring back sunlight. I have been to the surface, had not see any machines working towards that cause. It is an ear-mark on a bill that will never pass as long as there are "extremists" out there who work to bring down the system. The only way it would become a priority of any kind is as a reward to humanity. The machines can out live humanity in this state of stalemate, and I would not suggest calling them on the bluff. SkyNeT has drawn this conclusion from the studies of both past and present situations.
It appears that we fight for the same right to the natural gift that is light, we just go about it differently.

I let go of my flesh a long time ago... and have been a part of every org except for one since being awakend. All orgs have flaws and drawbacks.
Likwid Hyuzu fought as representatives of this system, and were then denied access to information we were lead to believe would be shared. Our future envisions organic & mechanic as individuals to define one world which creates many. We are realists because we accept the fact that the machines have already won the surface war, and move to protect those who do not have a voice or a choice right now. The MAJORITY of life left on earth.

The Hyuzu motions that a new or refurbished system be put into place, with "unlimited possibility".
Good Luck to your efforts as well.
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