Update 48 Discussion Thread

Spadz wrote:

Saddle up.. log to Vector .. debate over.

nuff said.

There's a lot more to MxO then PvP, which is why I'm on Recursion.

But, if someone is PvPing, they should stay red until they're done. Not before.

It's not a hard concept.

blue rezzing flies in the face of that concept. blue rezzing is for people who cant bear to lose. blue rezzing is for people who have to win at any cost, however cheesy or cheap.

Sneaker wrote:

Spadz wrote:

Saddle up.. log to Vector .. debate over.

nuff said.

There's a lot more to MxO then PvP, which is why I'm on Recursion.

But, if someone is PvPing, they should stay red until they're done. Not before.

It's not a hard concept.

Yet, you want to make pvp just like Vector. We were told the rules when we joined, and that's why we joined. I don't want to teleport to some other hardline after I die or log out for my flag to go away, if I die and I've had my fun, I want to pop up right there and converse with the patrons of Mara C or Camon C, or wherever else. I still don't believe in punishing blue rezzers, some of us pvp for fun against the zerg and some of us can't reconstruct without our computer going down. Even red Zion rez me for fighting against them, that's honor.

Both TC and MCDoE have NEVER had a problem shooting down the people that just get back up, and never before used to complain about small things like this. If you want different rules, delete your character and move to Vector, or go play some other game.

First, I have been a proponent of fixing blue rezzing since the beginning.  Even back when you remained PvP hot after death.  They should have fixed it then, and should still fix it now.  Yeah, and those other games, they have this mechanic, where when a player dies, they are considered PvP hot until they leave the game world either to spirit run back to their corpse or resurrect themselves via a Spirit Healer or other item.  As such, any player who assists them is flagged as PvP hot.  Thats one of the consequences of being flagged as PvP, those who are unwilling to PvP won't assist you.  It is this way on every PvP and non-PvP server in almost every other MMO.

eyepopper wrote:

blue rezzing flies in the face of that concept. blue rezzing is for people who cant bear to lose. blue rezzing is for people who have to win at any cost, however cheesy or cheap.

Blue rezzing and reconstructing are the exact same thing, one is just faster. If you want to *CENSORED* about something, do it for Death Effect.

Blue rezzing and reconstructing are not the same thing.  Blue rezzing assures that there will be no additional item stability loss because you do not have to travel back through the hardline.  Also, the top level rezzes in the Doctor and Trauma Surgeon trees reduce the duration of Death Effect when used (or at least they USED to, haven't tested this yet).  So they are not the same thing, they are two entirely different things.  It also allows a buffer who isn't going to be a combatant that you can eliminate to be a factor in the battle, which is unbalancing for people who don't want to be so cheap as to blue buff.  Don't say we could do the same thing, we know we could.  I don't do it because we usually need as much offensive power as we can get, and can't sacrifice for a healer.  When we do have a healer, he's 99.999% of the time flagged red.

That is why I'm on Vector, we don't have to debate about stuff like this.

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