You just had to didn't ya now in going to college on thursday you evil people.
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Update 46 Announcement - New Release Date - Thursday, August 31
181 posts · 2006-08-28 19:37:14 to 2006-09-03 04:32:47
See, if you guys were running Windows XP you could have just rolled-back the world breaking. I should be a Dev. And as my first order of business it will be for Walrus to get me one of those DEV tags next to my name on these forums.
Vesuveus
Two years of living the dream... and interpreting it! ~Variel
Defibrilator wrote:
Rarebit is Smith.
lol, The Rarbit Virus.
Rarebit, you're being a good sport about all this. Thanks for letting us have some fun at your expense. Think of it as a Roast
Two years of living the dream... and interpreting it! ~Variel
So what if the update is a bit late. Just gives everyone a bit more time to prepare for it and the info for the keys. You guys could just spew out a bunch of crappy content and we'd just have a bunch of crappy content or you could take the extra time to make sure that you're putting out quality content that will actually matter.
Just a good thing ya caught this bug before the public release.
Just a good thing ya caught this bug before the public release.
Vesuveus wrote:
Oracle: "Very soon, he's going to have the power to destroy this world. But I believe he won't stop there, he can't. He won't stop until everything is covered in broiled cheese."
Neo: "Will it be chedder?"
Oracle: "No, it will be provolone."
Defibrilator wrote:Rarebit is Smith.
lol, The Rarbit Virus.
Oracle: "Very soon, he's going to have the power to destroy this world. But I believe he won't stop there, he can't. He won't stop until everything is covered in broiled cheese."
Neo: "Will it be chedder?"
Oracle: "No, it will be provolone."
- An MxO live event transcript website:
"Archival Science in a Post-War Simulation".
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"Logging Tips for New People and Veterans Alike".
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"Submit Your Logs".
"Archival Science in a Post-War Simulation".
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"Logging Tips for New People and Veterans Alike".
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"Submit Your Logs".
EXCELSIOR!
Well well, why not screw things up, if it results in better things? I say, as long as it works by the day we get it on live, I accept all delays.
You know, there can't be many people in the world that can claim to have broken the Matrix. Sounds like bragging rights to me. 
Llywela wrote:
Well, there was this one time when I kicked this lamppost in Moriah...
You know, there can't be many people in the world that can claim to have broken the Matrix. Sounds like bragging rights to me.
Well, there was this one time when I kicked this lamppost in Moriah...
Not surprised so not disappointed. I expect that we will see another delay come Thursday. As long as the patch comes out solid I'll be happy.
All I have to say is, Good things come to those who wait.
I can't wait till Thursday now
I can't wait till Thursday now
Wowzers.
I'd like to address a couple things in this thread.
1: Better to break it and fix it now than having a catastophic failure on the live servers.
2: Updates are not all about YOU and YOUR timetable. They are to further the enjoyment of the Matrix for EVERYONE. Potentially game breaking bugs are FAR worse than any delays....
3: Updates/patches have come out on time on numerous occasions. Do some reading before making fantastic claims that have no basis in reality.
4: I may complain about a lot of things... but delays to solve technical problems is not one of them. Then again... I've programmed more than my VCR ... 
As far as I'm concerned they can delay it as long as they want if we end up with code that actually works the way it's supposed to.
I will be a bit annoyed if it isn't ready by Thursday. Three delays is not so good. Better a few bugs (not the Crash Teh Matrix bug!) and a hotfix then to wait until everything is absolutely perfect.
Skyscream, I think there is a common logical flaw to the points 1,(2) and 4, as about all the other "better fixed later than broken sooner" statements.
Of course, it's true. We can argue about the little bugs that only affect new features (like in case of 45), but I guess everyone agrees here that a delay is better than a patch breaking the game.
However, you already take the occurrence of such a problem for granted. I think when people complain about this delay, they rather complain about the fact that it had to be delayed (or the occurrence of this problem), not the choice to delay it instead of breaking the game.
They've also complained about the unpredictability of such problems forcing delays, and asked for less challenging announcement dates, or none at all.
With point 3, you've hit the nail on the head. Numerous updates and hotfixes have been released on time - heck, one even wasn't announced at all (4.3, I think). The HJ bug was fixed before it was officially announced.
So yea, people should get their facts straight. I think it's the same with the misconception of sandwiches always falling on the side with the butter - the chances are 50-50, but people only take notice when it falls on the wrong side.
And before I stop getting what the heck I'm talking about, I'll wrap it up
Of course, it's true. We can argue about the little bugs that only affect new features (like in case of 45), but I guess everyone agrees here that a delay is better than a patch breaking the game.
However, you already take the occurrence of such a problem for granted. I think when people complain about this delay, they rather complain about the fact that it had to be delayed (or the occurrence of this problem), not the choice to delay it instead of breaking the game.
They've also complained about the unpredictability of such problems forcing delays, and asked for less challenging announcement dates, or none at all.
With point 3, you've hit the nail on the head. Numerous updates and hotfixes have been released on time - heck, one even wasn't announced at all (4.3, I think). The HJ bug was fixed before it was officially announced.
So yea, people should get their facts straight. I think it's the same with the misconception of sandwiches always falling on the side with the butter - the chances are 50-50, but people only take notice when it falls on the wrong side.
And before I stop getting what the heck I'm talking about, I'll wrap it up
Well al im going to say is im pretty annoyed with the way things have turned out and if we dont get both last weeks critical mission and this weeks then i will be extremley disapointed as will many others as we have been made to wait long enough 
phaydren wrote:
Though, if they had planned any events for between 5.3.1 and 5.3.2, I still would prefer that they release the second one after 3-4 days.
Just my opinion.
Well al im going to say is im pretty annoyed with the way things have turned out and if we dont get both last weeks critical mission and this weeks then i will be extremley disapointed as will many others as we have been made to wait long enoughWell, Rarebit said that it's going to happen anyway...
Though, if they had planned any events for between 5.3.1 and 5.3.2, I still would prefer that they release the second one after 3-4 days.
Just my opinion.
The DE bug better be fixed on thursday or *poop* will hit the fan.
it happens...
We can wait til thursday.
Rarebit: woops
HighAngel: Wow l33t to kill a whole world... or just dumb... Still can't wait for patch!!!!!! LUV for Rarebit
If I could say one thing on this matter, it's that the devs should definitely not be announcing the releases of patches so early. If you think it's going to be last thursday I'd say give yourselves an extra week, and then if everything's set by last thursday, release it early, people will be happy. That way it's either early or on time, and not late, which really pisses us off.
You know, when I woke up today, yawned, blinked my eyes a few times and heard the world squeek, I thought, "Hmmm. That's weird...never heard existence make THAT noise before."
Now it all makes sense.
Rare...I not gonna lie: Not too pleased right now. But...awwww, dangitall, I can't stay mad at YOU...Just LOOK at him.
fix it quick or die.
Jevex wrote:
Archived image unavailable: i-40431.jpgYou know, when I woke up today, yawned, blinked my eyes a few times and heard the world squeek, I thought, "Hmmm. That's weird...never heard existence make THAT noise before."
Now it all makes sense.
Rare...I not gonna lie: Not too pleased right now. But...awwww, dangitall, I can't stay mad at YOU...Just LOOK at him.
fix it quick or die.
I am personally happy with the announcements of upcoming patches when they think they are going to get in on the table.
- People already should know that there will most likely be a delay, especially the vets.
- If there is a delay, be happy, you know that t hey are fixing something.
- What if it is announced, "We are going to have the patch tomorrow, it is completely ready, 100% guarentee." and all goes wrong at the very last minute. I think I would be more upset and in a lot of cases with other people, very pissed off it that happen instead of having the patch announced sooner + delays because through the first method you were ver so close.
- Show RareBit some respect, you are never going to see a dev in another game actually admit something like this to the community and I bet if most of you were in his position you would have kept your little mouths zipped too.
- Bye bye.
Rarebit, you rock! Thank you for the info and for making the game we love.
i know i came off really negative im my previous post and i would first like to appologise for it.
The main reason everone is a bit snappy is because this is one mind blowing patch, dangling on the end of a hook, just being snatched away at the last minute, so its undestandable that people are going to loose their cool.
big ups man for doing a great job and put the patch out right rather than quickly 
Same goes for the rest of the developement team
The main reason everone is a bit snappy is because this is one mind blowing patch, dangling on the end of a hook, just being snatched away at the last minute, so its undestandable that people are going to loose their cool.
big ups man for doing a great job and put the patch out right rather than quickly
Same goes for the rest of the developement team
Out of curiosity, could you explain at all to us just -how- you broke the world by fixing the white hallways? I'm really interested in this now.
Did trying to enter the world with a character cause it to crash, or did all the buildings turn inside out, or was everything except instanced zones suddenly an instanced zone, or did thousands upon thousands of Tengu spawn at every point in the Matrix?
Did trying to enter the world with a character cause it to crash, or did all the buildings turn inside out, or was everything except instanced zones suddenly an instanced zone, or did thousands upon thousands of Tengu spawn at every point in the Matrix?
Fatmop wrote:
Out of curiosity, could you explain at all to us just -how- you broke the world by fixing the white hallways? I'm really interested in this now.
Did trying to enter the world with a character cause it to crash, or did all the buildings turn inside out, or was everything except instanced zones suddenly an instanced zone, or did thousands upon thousands of Tengu spawn at every point in the Matrix?
I have 2 theories:
1. He was a renegade angel who was thrown out of heaven. He cut his wings off, passed through a special archway and was forgiven for his sins. On being killed, probably by Walrus, he was allowed to re-enter heaven thus proving Alanis Morissette wrong and undoing reality!!
or
2. He was carrying the world from the kitchen to the living room when Jurymen didn't hold the door for him. The door swung back, hit Rarebit in the arm and the world slipped out of his hand.
Now he's covering for Jurymen!
CLAUDIUS wrote:
I would rather it be delayed than getting a bugged patch. take your time don't rush when its ready then release it
Oh, that's alright, I could always pass the time by playing Starcraft Ghost.
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Oh, yes, subtle humour.
Broke the entire world?!?!?!?
You've managed to accomplish, in one tiny little fix, what the Assassin and all the Sleepers couldn't accomplish with all their evil might!
You are mighty, powerful and very evil. I condemn you to face the Zerg at Mara C and if you survive that, eat rarebit for the very first time!
Hes the Lead Dev. I fancy that if he wanted to, he could very well survive that Zerg
Rarebit wrote:
Take your time. Oh and Rarebit... and I guess if it's you that broke it we can let it slide... this one time
I'm glad, actually well beyond glad to see you're not taking the Microsoft way,
Send it broke,
why?
cause that's our due date!
but it's broke.
Fix it in a Patch!
Rather see quality over that^
Take your time, you've given us enough Juicy goodness with the announcement, if we have to wait a few days, weeks, even months as long as it's working
I don't think we'll mind. (atleast you know I won't )
Better done right than done over (and that would mean more downtime, and more upset gamers)
Although Update 46 has been unfortunately delayed yet again, we bring you in its stead this wonderful thread, in which you can discuss what a nitwit Rarebit is for BREAKING THE WHOLE ENTIRE WORLD while trying to fix one last annoying White Hallway bug, thus providing us all with a small means of filling the yawning hole in all our lives the next two days of delay will bring.
Excelsior!
Take your time. Oh and Rarebit... and I guess if it's you that broke it we can let it slide... this one time
I'm glad, actually well beyond glad to see you're not taking the Microsoft way,
Send it broke,
why?
cause that's our due date!
but it's broke.
Fix it in a Patch!
Rather see quality over that^
Take your time, you've given us enough Juicy goodness with the announcement, if we have to wait a few days, weeks, even months as long as it's working
I don't think we'll mind. (atleast you know I won't )Better done right than done over (and that would mean more downtime, and more upset gamers)
The delay works for me, too. I'm currently on vacation, so I'll get back just in time to enjoy the patch. w00t!
LMFAO!
nice one Rarebit
If you're going to screw things up might as well do it apocalypse style.
If it makes you feel any better I just finished restoring our financial system from back up... I just did a data import that was meant to be an export... so I overwrote the existing good data (12 years of accounts and sales data) with the bad backup data (the words "some stuff goes here ;P"... so yeah I just took our whole company down nationally.
On the upside... the database was much smaller
phi wrote:
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Umm wow? I think you just won the golden cookie! (Ya, offtopic..I knowLMFAO!
nice one Rarebit
If you're going to screw things up might as well do it apocalypse style.If it makes you feel any better I just finished restoring our financial system from back up... I just did a data import that was meant to be an export... so I overwrote the existing good data (12 years of accounts and sales data) with the bad backup data (the words "some stuff goes here ;P"
On the upside... the database was much smaller
)Fatmop wrote:
I'd love a Smith-like Tengu spawn! Better drops than those crappy Unlimits. BTW make sure to include Tengus in this year's new Halloween masks!
Out of curiosity, could you explain at all to us just -how- you broke the world by fixing the white hallways? I'm really interested in this now.
Did trying to enter the world with a character cause it to crash, or did all the buildings turn inside out, or was everything except instanced zones suddenly an instanced zone, or did thousands upon thousands of Tengu spawn at every point in the Matrix?
I'd love a Smith-like Tengu spawn! Better drops than those crappy Unlimits. BTW make sure to include Tengus in this year's new Halloween masks!
When is MxOs crew gonna be expanded?
MxO is understaffed...
I know that aswell as you...
Rarebit broke the world, but if there were more working on that point they might have resolved it fastenough for the Planned release...
(Add up most of us want some sort of expansion which you can't create while understaffed)
-Personally I think lvl 50s are getting bored... And an expansion would be great 6.1 is to close so I would aim a expansion at the release of 11.1
-Ofcourse this is getting off topic... resuming program....
Rarebit keep fixing things, but please try to not make a breaking fix
-I gotta admit I do get a bit pissed off... Cause as faction leader my faction members adress me about the update being done or not (and why)
Hell If I was Bill Gates I would fund MxO. This game is like Internet Crack and Im having 2 doses of it everyday (2 accounts).
COCAINE IS A HELL OF A DRUG LOL
LOL it's airport survival kit, or it used to be till the bloody terrorist alert.
Hows it Lookin' Rarebit?
Any updates on the progress, if we should expect to have the patch tommorow or so on?
and know Im not trying to figure when the patch is coming out just to make a bet on recursion...jeesh!
Any updates on the progress, if we should expect to have the patch tommorow or so on?
and know Im not trying to figure when the patch is coming out just to make a bet on recursion...jeesh!
HostileIntention wrote:
I screwed something else up, but Dracomet was able to ninja hack it on the server, so it's working perfectly now as far as the two of us can see. QA is going to start running it through the wringer shortly...
Hows it Lookin' Rarebit?So far so good--cross all your fingers!
Any updates on the progress, if we should expect to have the patch tommorow or so on?
:mrgreen:
and know Im not trying to figure when the patch is coming out just to make a bet on recursion...jeesh!
I screwed something else up, but Dracomet was able to ninja hack it on the server, so it's working perfectly now as far as the two of us can see. QA is going to start running it through the wringer shortly...
Rarebit wrote:
Pls, pls, pls, pls
HostileIntention wrote:Hows it Lookin' Rarebit?So far so good--cross all your fingers!
Any updates on the progress, if we should expect to have the patch tommorow or so on?
and know Im not trying to figure when the patch is coming out just to make a bet on recursion...jeesh!
I screwed something else up, but Dracomet was able to ninja hack it on the server, so it's working perfectly now as far as the two of us can see. QA is going to start running it through the wringer shortly...
Pls, pls, pls, pls
Rarebit wrote:
DRACOMET'S NINJA HACK FTW!
HostileIntention wrote:Hows it Lookin' Rarebit?So far so good--cross all your fingers!
Any updates on the progress, if we should expect to have the patch tommorow or so on?
and know Im not trying to figure when the patch is coming out just to make a bet on recursion...jeesh!
I screwed something else up, but Dracomet was able to ninja hack it on the server, so it's working perfectly now as far as the two of us can see. QA is going to start running it through the wringer shortly...
DRACOMET'S NINJA HACK FTW!
I swear Dracomet makes everything work, that guy is the best.
ThePigeonKing wrote:
Rarebit wrote:rare ur the best man but pls dont tuch the patch till its out lol j/k manHostileIntention wrote:Hows it Lookin' Rarebit?So far so good--cross all your fingers!
Any updates on the progress, if we should expect to have the patch tommorow or so on?
and know Im not trying to figure when the patch is coming out just to make a bet on recursion...jeesh!
I screwed something else up, but Dracomet was able to ninja hack it on the server, so it's working perfectly now as far as the two of us can see. QA is going to start running it through the wringer shortly...
Pls, pls, pls, pls
Shadow-SK wrote:
Rarebit wrote:I'm so jealous of Dracomet's 1337 hax abilitiesHostileIntention wrote:Hows it Lookin' Rarebit?So far so good--cross all your fingers!
Any updates on the progress, if we should expect to have the patch tommorow or so on?
and know Im not trying to figure when the patch is coming out just to make a bet on recursion...jeesh!
I screwed something else up, but Dracomet was able to ninja hack it on the server, so it's working perfectly now as far as the two of us can see. QA is going to start running it through the wringer shortly...
DRACOMET'S NINJA HACK FTW!
Oh i hope the patch gets released so i can eat my "update 46 release celibratory muffin".
I'm oh so hungry...don't let me starve.
I'm oh so hungry...don't let me starve.
ohmigosh! With all you have done for us when you didn't have to I think it's totally ok
dont be hard on yourself!
So Rarebit, what do you think about my suggestion to release mission number two 3/4 days after number 1? In case there were any events leading from one to the other.
No one moves, no one gets hurt! No one touch the patch!!!!!!