214 posts · 2006-08-22 09:58:22 to 2009-02-27 04:53:16
The E pluribus Neo terrorists presence in the matrix shall not be tolerated. Due to recent activities, code bombs being set off, in order for the system to survive...we must eliminate whatever threat they pose...i urge all operatives to do this, for the good of the truce..and the system.
Just because one became a renegade doesnt mean we all are his action was not condoned by EPN.. he acted on his own.
however, I will fight if i have to
For too long have E Pluribus Neo been allowed to roam the Matrix freely - often sometimes, with astounding arrogance. The Matrix does not belong to these radical redpills; the simulation exists for the billions upon billions of bluepills - asleep, ignorant, and blissful. E Pluribus Neo fails to respect these bluepills - not only bluepills, but humans as well. In their misguided obsession with a long dead "messiah," these extremists have become menaces. Code bombs destroy the illusion for perfectly content bluepills, terrorizing and sometimes killing innocent civilians. "What would Neo do," they ask? We don't know much about the end of the war, but historical records state that Neo went to the Machine City, and soon after, the Sentinels stopped attacking Zion. Would Neo have went to the Machine City with the sole intent of finding peace, and then support a cult that terrorizes the Matrix and provokes violence? I think not. Even if we don't know "What would Neo do?," I know what I must do. The Matrix must be made safe for bluepills. This is their world; we're just guests in their home. When guests become unruly and damage your home, you would remove them. As the bluepills lack the sufficient understanding and capability to remove the terrorists from the simulation, we shall perform such a task for them. Hear me terrorists, your prescence in the Matrix shall no longer be tolerated.
I will get word up to Kid that Systematic Chaos has joined the Cypherite cause. "...bluepills - asleep, ignorant, and blissful."
"E Pluribus Neo fails to respect these bluepills - not only bluepills, but humans as well." We VERY much respect all humans. So much so that we feel they deserve the respect to be told the truth! Disrespecting them is letting them walk around asleep and ignorant while we know whats really going on and failing to inform them.
TaeCross acted on his own and the majority of EPN does not condone his actions. I can say that all of EPN on Vector does not condone his actions. Code bombs are not our way. We do not terrorize the matrix and provoke violence. What happened was an isolated incident. The entire group cannot be held accountable for what one individual did. If you do then you are discriminating against our people.
The Kid knew Neo personally. He has to know what Neo wanted more than anyone else that is still alive. If we follow Kid's direction, then we are following Neo.
EPN MARTYRS
Amarossa - Priorato de Sion
DeathScorpion - Insurgence
Julieanne - E Pluribus Neo
Macro - SOTI
MAR5 - Insurgence
Notario - Priorato de Sion
Trinite - SOTI
xTruthx104 - Unlimited Potentials
You will always be remembered for your sacrifice in order to further EPN's cause, belief, and principle.
bayamo seems like you made ur bed...now u must lay dead in it.Let's make that happen.. earlier.
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As commander of an EPN faction, i will say that non of my operatives have or will be ordered to commit any sort of crime against blue pills without the expressed authorization of their commander (me)
With that said I can very clearly mention that I do not condone what happened in those churches, but i must agree to a certain extent that something needs to be done, as the machines have had plenty of time to develope technology that can make them independant from the humans,
They have chosen not too as it is easier to control us from within.
THEY HAVE BUILT MUCH MORE THAN PODS TO FEED OUR BODIES AND POWER THEIR CITIES, THEY HAVE BUILT PRISON CELLS FOR OUR MINDS
Spam that "terrorist" button all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you are willingly supporting the beings that wiped untold amounts of humans off the planet 5 times for their Goddamn System. That possess and monitor every single movement bluepills make and keep all other humans monitored and trapped in a cave. But I will say this, you are no different from the other 99% of humanity that hug their pillows out of greed and fear every single day. Nor to one degree are the Zionists who are so afraid of the Machines they do nothing to end the cycle. Other than one simple fact. You know the truth, and yet still hold on to the System.
"Human greed is our ally, a System of... control." - Agent Narrator in Machine Organization Movie Intro
Btw Hydra, you're sounding so philosophical lol. Proud to call you my leader. Regards,
Brooch
Insurgence-EPN
HA i think its a privelage that im up on this.. lmao.. Nice kill "yas" u killed a lv 46 patcher ... Prooph = Terrorist 4 Life !!!
HA i think its a privelage that im up on this.. lmao.. Nice kill "yas" u killed a lv 46 patcher ... Prooph = Terrorist 4 Life !!!
Wow a machine strategy I can applaud!
EPN's determined ignorance, its refusal to learn from either past or present, its purile hormonally led crusade deserves one thing and one thing only - extermination.... remember one less EPN is one less person to bleed power from the Matrix, one less person on which food in the real is wasted, do it for yourself, do it for your friends, hell even do it for Neo - kill an EPN today 
You're hopeless Tytanya . Meet you on the field.
Brooch
If there are Machine elements that blatantly disregard the peace (and there are) then it is my duty...no, OUR duty, to put them down. And put them down HARD. EPN will not become a punching bag or scapegoat for rogue Machines.
SC, you are hearby placed on notice: we will not tolerate your actions. You will be hunted down with a vengence for your acts of terrorism against us.
Systematic Chaos works for the well being of both Machines and Humanity. By helping to keep the System in order we are keeping Humanity alive. As we work for those who control the System - No. Who are the System - I hardly think you can call us terrorists.
Expect a longer broadcast addressing this in the near future.
Systematic Chaos works for the well being of both Machines and Humanity. By helping to keep the System in order we are keeping Humanity alive. As we work for those who control the System - No. Who are the System - I hardly think you can call us terrorists.
Humanity: Alive and enslaved. Well done Machinists.
Systematic Chaos: Terrorists would be better. SC has masterfully demonstrated how to be: Hired Slaver enforcers. The Hessian Mercenaries of the American Revolutionary War come to mind.
I'll take death before I bow to a mechanical leech.
Brooch
Insurgence-EPN
oranos wrote:
Systematic Chaos works for the well being of both Machines and Humanity. By helping to keep the System in order we are keeping Humanity alive. As we work for those who control the System - No. Who are the System - I hardly think you can call us terrorists.
Humanity: Alive and enslaved. Well done Machinists.Systematic Chaos: Terrorists would be better. SC has masterfully demonstrated how to be: Hired Slaver enforcers. The Hessian Mercenaries of the American Revolutionary War come to mind.
I'll take death before I bow to a mechanical leech.
Brooch
Insurgence-EPN
The Machines have done a great deal for Humanity and their actions have been greatly misinterpreted. Before our times, Machines were nothing more than the creation of man. Mindless, and sub-servient. The birth of A.I. allowed them to start thinking for themselves, as all living things do. For this, they were shunned by the very beings who created them. Abandoned like an orphan. Did this cause them to turn on the human race?
No. They built their own city, and created their own economy. They wished to co-exist with humanity and tried to be peaceful. Unfortunately, humans, such imperfect creatures, would not allow this to be so. For petty reasons such as pride, they would not co-exist with the Machines, or acknowledge them as equals. They struck out at their creations a 2nd time. This time, attempting to destroy the city they had built for themselves. The Machines fought back however, and were much too strong for the oppressive humans.
Then, continuing the stupidity humans had been displaying during that time, preceded to destroy the sky, in turn destroying the surface of the world. They could have co-existed. Instead they chose to ruin the world. They continued to fight the Machines, but they were weaker.
This was going to be the final defeat of humans. The extinction of a race. For centuries they had wiped out each other, and now they faced something bigger. But they weren't wiped out. They were kept alive...By the very same beings they had tried to destroy. The Machines could have finished the extinction of the human race, but they didn't. If it was the other way around, the humans would have had no hesitation in destroying the Machines, but the Machines showed mercy.
If we are here simply to supply energy, then why were we allowed to dream peacefully within the Matrix? Could they not have made us suffer the true reality, every waking moment, every second of our lives. We could have lied there in pain looking at the fields for dozens of years, but they did not punish us so. They allowed us to sleep. They allowed us to dream. They hid the ignorance of our forefathers from us, and the trouble it caused. They did not want us to see the disgusting condition of the world which the humans had caused so long ago, preventing any life on the world from seeing the stars ever again. It was the Machines who showed us the only sunrise and sunset we will ever get to see. Not humans.
Why did the Machines not obliterate our species? Or allow us to suffer the punishment of those before us? I do not completely know. Perhaps they feel some obligation to their creators. Something in their code that would prevent them from every destroying us completely.
I believe there is so much humor in all of your beliefs. Machines are "using" and "enslaving" humans. Is a hovercraft not a Machine? Are the things used to power your city not Machines? What is the difference? Perhaps it's that these Machines cannot feel. Well yes that would be true. But then wouldn't it also be true that bluepills cannot feel what is happening to them either?
Now on to Systematic Chaos, who you have so easily branded terrorists, or slave enforcers. My personal view, and I believe it is one that many of my factionmates share, perhaps in slightly different ways, is this:
Humans owe the Machines. They kept us alive. If it were not for them we would not be here now. You would not be around to experience joy, laughter or love. They allowed us to sleep peacefully. I fight for the stability of the Matrix, but this is not all I see. When I look to the future I see so much potential for both our species, and the Machines, if only there were not those who would seek to disrupt it. I see humans and Machines living as one. Perhaps on the real world. With the technology of the Machines, and the illogical minds of humans perhaps the world can still be repaired.
I see the melding of flesh of metal. The grey skies fading back into blue. The scorched earth blooming with grass once again. Creatures that humans doomed so long ago without even a thought returning to the land. Is this not a great future? Perhaps I'm biased, but I see no way this future could be considered negatively.
Take my words into consideration. You know they ring true.
In a word: hogwash.
I was thinking it had already been said.Spam that "terrorist" button all you want, it doesn't change the fact that you are willingly supporting the beings that wiped untold amounts of humans off the planet 5 times for their G*n System. That possess and monitor every single movement bluepills make and keep all other humans monitored and trapped in a cave. But I will say this, you are no different from the other 99% of humanity that hug their pillows out of greed and fear every single day. Nor to one degree are the Zionists who are so afraid of the Machines they do nothing to end the cycle. Other than one simple fact. You know the truth, and yet still hold on to the System.
"Human greed is our ally, a System of... control." - Agent Narrator in Machine Organization Movie Intro
Brooch
Insurgence-EPN
You're referring to Stockholm Syndrome. I believe you have skipped many of my points.
As I said I do not believe what the Machines are doing is slavery. It is the preservation of the human race in a way that means they don't have to suffer the mistakes of those before us.
You are right. We don't know why the Machines did it. I am just giving my own opinion, and it's a very valid opinion.
Choice. Choice is a matter of opinion. Do you have a choice whether you wish to live underground or on the surface? No. God never gave you full choice. Can you choose to live over death? No. You can say that my saying this is ridiculous but it's true.
You also ignored my comment on the bluepills being "used", no more than you would use a hovercraft.
I recall a wise man say: You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe(I.E the Lies of the system). You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. (I.E The Truth)
In the above Quote: you can clearly see that choices are offered
Choices?! His speech is pure manipulation. He doesn't give any idea as to what the redpill will free him to. No idea of the scorched wasteland he will see. He is given two options - One of which is made to sound boring and uninviting (Bluepill), and one which is made to sound exciting (Redpill).
Where is the true choice? Anybody can put a swing on words.
You take the blue pill, you continue sleep blissfully and enjoy the world as it should be. You take the redpill, you see Humanity's biggest mistake, and the world in ruins.
Now how does that sound? Yes that was biased. But isn't the quote you just used also biased?
Yes - but only 1% of the the human population wants to make that choice. Aggressive recruiting tactics disrupt the System's stability and are bad for humanity in general. I have no problem with people being freed from the Matrix - IF they choose to be freed, instead of being tricked into it by code bombs, sneaky tactics, et cetera. Sure, TAECROSS was a "rogue" when she let loose her attacks - but do I really believe that? No. Taecross is a higher-up in the EPN organization, and I don't believe for one second that the Kid and others didn't know what she was up to; rather, they let it appear as if she was rogue so they could claim plausible deniability, and keep buddy-buddy with the other organizations while they run black operations to attack them secretly. If you think Taecross was on her own with the code bombs, then I pity you for the wool that's been pulled over your eyes.
And to those who complain about "fairness" and "discrimination" -- tough luck. The Matrix is the Machines' world; they built, they operate it. You and us both are only alive today because for some reason, the Machines decided to stop attacking us. But why did they ever attack us in the first place? Us. Humans started the war, we caused this whole mess to occur. The General says in his blog that at the core of all Machine programming, the original source elements are retained - that they may kill humans, but they do not enjoy it. Machines are not aggressors, enslavers, bloodthirsty opressors. They're our own creations who've tried time and time again to do what's best for us, only to have humans themselves come in and muck things up. E Pluribus Neo are a direct threat to the System, and must be dealth with accordingly. Agent Gray himself made this clear to Machine operatives several months ago after a meeting with E Pluribus Neo (which was subsequently interrupted by Veil). Fellow machine operatives, we should all be working together to rid this threat from the simulation.
First, Where do you get your statistics from? How can you say that only 1% of the human population wants to make that choice when the entire population don't even know about A choice??
Second, You should really do your homework before you make statements. For one thing, TaeCross is MALE, and another, Shimada issued a warrant for his arrest even BEFORE he broke any EPN laws and set off codebombs. In my opinion, it was handled in under a week and that is very quick compared to say, Anome. Had they wanted him to do what he did, they could have easily delayed the search. Our organization has never been one to condone code bombs even when Morpheus used them. A dead human is no good to us. It's like saying that the machines secretly want all humans to be freed. It just doesn't make sense for the machines to want that just as it doesnt make sense for EPN to want code bombs to be set off.
Lastly, if anything, Machines should be on board with us. Or at least on the same page. We don't want humans to die and neither do you. All we want humans to have a choice to know the truth, whats so wrong with that? Why do you feel so threatened by humans being given a choice? Maybe it WOULD only be 1% that wants to be awakened, who knows. But at least they would have been given that choice.
Bayamo wrote:Yes - but only 1% of the the human population wants to make that choice. Aggressive recruiting tactics disrupt the System's stability and are bad for humanity in general. I have no problem with people being freed from the Matrix - IF they choose to be freed, instead of being tricked into it by code bombs, sneaky tactics, et cetera. Sure, TAECROSS was a "rogue" when she let loose her attacks - but do I really believe that? No. Taecross is a higher-up in the EPN organization, and I don't believe for one second that the Kid and others didn't know what she was up to; rather, they let it appear as if she was rogue so they could claim plausible deniability, and keep buddy-buddy with the other organizations while they run black operations to attack them secretly. If you think Taecross was on her own with the code bombs, then I pity you for the wool that's been pulled over your eyes.
And to those who complain about "fairness" and "discrimination" -- tough luck. The Matrix is the Machines' world; they built, they operate it. You and us both are only alive today because for some reason, the Machines decided to stop attacking us. But why did they ever attack us in the first place? Us. Humans started the war, we caused this whole mess to occur. The General says in his blog that at the core of all Machine programming, the original source elements are retained - that they may kill humans, but they do not enjoy it. Machines are not aggressors, enslavers, bloodthirsty opressors. They're our own creations who've tried time and time again to do what's best for us, only to have humans themselves come in and muck things up. E Pluribus Neo are a direct threat to the System, and must be dealth with accordingly. Agent Gray himself made this clear to Machine operatives several months ago after a meeting with E Pluribus Neo (which was subsequently interrupted by Veil). Fellow machine operatives, we should all be working together to rid this threat from the simulation.
First, Where do you get your statistics from? How can you say that only 1% of the human population wants to make that choice when the entire population don't even know about A choice??
Second, You should really do your homework before you make statements. For one thing, TaeCross is MALE, and another, Shimada issued a warrant for his arrest even BEFORE he broke any EPN laws and set off codebombs. In my opinion, it was handled in under a week and that is very quick compared to say, Anome. Had they wanted him to do what he did, they could have easily delayed the search. Our organization has never been one to condone code bombs even when Morpheus used them. A dead human is no good to us. It's like saying that the machines secretly want all humans to be freed. It just doesn't make sense for the machines to want that just as it doesnt make sense for EPN to want code bombs to be set off.
Lastly, if anything, Machines should be on board with us. Or at least on the same page. We don't want humans to die and neither do you. All we want humans to have a choice to know the truth, whats so wrong with that? Why do you feel so threatened by humans being given a choice? Maybe it WOULD only be 1% that wants to be awakened, who knows. But at least they would have been given that choice.
Poor Michael is a very misguided man. You do not want humans to have a choice. You want the Matrix destroyed, and all humans freed from it. I have, to various people in the past, explained that this would be impossible for various reasons, and I shall not go into detail with it now but let me just say: Shock, over-population, wars over resources.
The Kid, as he is called (an appropriate name may I say), is doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason. He believes he is doing what Neo wanted. Neo did not want the Matrix destroyed and all of humanity out of the pods. He saw that this would be impossible, and in the end disasterous. He secured a future with more choice and freedom than any of you could have hoped to get through your foolish actions. Yet what does the Kid do? The EPN are terrorists whether you will admit it or not. I agree with my factionmate that those code bombs were probably condoned in private by the leaders of EPN.
My personal belief is that the Kid is not capable of leading a group; especially one that goes against it's own very idea.
Poor Michael is a very misguided man. You do not want humans to have a choice. You want the Matrix destroyed, and all humans freed from it. I have, to various people in the past, explained that this would be impossible for various reasons, and I shall not go into detail with it now but let me just say: Shock, over-population, wars over resources.You have your facts wrong again:The Kid, as he is called (an appropriate name may I say), is doing the wrong thing for the wrong reason. He believes he is doing what Neo wanted. Neo did not want the Matrix destroyed and all of humanity out of the pods. He saw that this would be impossible, and in the end disasterous. He secured a future with more choice and freedom than any of you could have hoped to get through your foolish actions.
Neo : I know you're out there...I can feel you now. I know that
you're afraid. You're afraid of us, you're afraid of
change...I don't know the future...I didn't come here to
tell you how this is going to end, I came here to tell you
how this is going to begin. Now, I'm going to hang up
this phone, and I'm going to show these people what you
don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world
without you...a world without rules and controls, without
borders or boundaries. A world...where anything is
possible.
We travel down a phone line, as we see that Neo is in a phone box.
Neo : Where we go from there...is a choice I leave to you...
poop is 46 now? /golfclap
Everything that EPN stands for is wrong, they say that neo's honour must be protected and that the matrix should be destroyed when both those objectives conflict. Neo died for the matrix, so destroying the matrix is making neo's death worthless. I am a great neo devoter outside of the boundaries of EPN since EPN's objectives are flawed I am forced to keep my faction away from them. EPN are terrorists and I will not help EPN while being attacked by machines. but once you have killed that EPN I will not wait for you to leave to open fire.
I trully respect everyones opinions , like yours but what sense does it make? You are willing to let the machines kill an EPN but youll wait till he's dead before atacking him? I would much rather you stand by my dead body and cheer. I mean If i would decide to not help a fellow zionists i would just not help before during or after.
But I'm not like that i try and help any zionists or any EPN that needs help. Just because my ideas of peace and your are at conflict, doesn't mean we don't share enemies.
of course I'd help them against a deadly foe although not that I'm bragging or anything but I don't really consider many people deadly foes. of course ppl like anome and the general must be fought as united people. but just average machines and mervs, I wouldn't bother to turn my head
of course I'd help them against a deadly foe although not that I'm bragging or anything but I don't really consider many people deadly foes. of course ppl like anome and the general must be fought as united people. but just average machines and mervs, I wouldn't bother to turn my head
pack-hunter wrote:english plz ?of course I'd help them against a deadly foe although not that I'm bragging or anything but I don't really consider many people deadly foes. of course ppl like anome and the general must be fought as united people. but just average machines and mervs, I wouldn't bother to turn my head
Zerowned!!!!!
