Concealment for the loss :-( - MXO Forum Archive

#36300010446 07/29/2006 15:51 Concealment for the loss :-(

I have a dream that one day I'll be able to go into concealment without the fear of exposure.
I have a dream that one day I'll be able to go into concealment and not have it crap out.
I have a dream that one day I'll be able to line up the shot without the fear of exposure.
I have a dream that one day all those missed oppurtunities for a cq from these bugs will be redeemed.

I have a dream.

God bless you all!

"The heart never speaks, but you must listen to it to know."
-The Oracle

#36300023887 08/14/2006 04:14 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

There does seem to be a pattern emerging of concenalment breaking for me.

a. When close to a object, be it a buidling to the edge of a raised road.
b. When close to a person, this happens a lot less but still does from time to time
c. Lag, we get a small movemnt glitch even though we aint moved, this I believe works with the above 2 to make it happen.

When I attack from open space away from any object or person I have almost never had concealment break or have line up shot break it.

#36300023995 08/14/2006 07:20 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

Unforunatly then we are stuck in the unknown until we can effectively Repro the bug.

Until then, if it breaks, be ready to take evasion action SMILEY

#36300099033 11/19/2006 05:04 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

hurrah for coming out of concealment then getting neuro darted, sniped, hacked, shot, punched, kicked, punted and simmed to death

#36300099672 11/19/2006 23:44 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

Dagonet wrote:
pack-hunter wrote:
hurrah for coming out of concealment then getting neuro darted, sniped, hacked, shot, punched, kicked, punted and simmed to death

wait wait, so you're saying that the point of being a sniper is not to be exposed and beaten to death?

Of course not! If that was the point, we'd be able to do it.

be able to do it.?? able to be neuro darted, sniped, hacked, shot, punched, kicked, punted and simmed to death? or to snipe someone and actually get a CQ in the middle of reds for once.

#36300099818 11/20/2006 05:52 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

Dripping-Cheese wrote:

Yeah, and on top of all that, everyone who is on the receiving end of a sniper bullet says it's the easiest class!

el1X0r is the master at that

#36300101779 11/22/2006 12:03 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:

pack-hunter wrote:
ZippyTheSquirrel wrote:
Dagonet wrote:
pack-hunter wrote:
hurrah for coming out of concealment then getting neuro darted, sniped, hacked, shot, punched, kicked, punted and simmed to death

wait wait, so you're saying that the point of being a sniper is not to be exposed and beaten to death?

Of course not! If that was the point, we'd be able to do it.

be able to do it.?? able to be neuro darted, sniped, hacked, shot, punched, kicked, punted and simmed to death? or to snipe someone and actually get a CQ in the middle of reds for once.
No, no, able to NOT be neuro darted, hacked, shot, punched, kicked, punted, simmed, and Full Auto'd to death AND to get a CQ for once.

*sniffle* didn't need to make it so that I'm completely rubbish at english WAH *slits wrists*

#36300107591 11/29/2006 13:15 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

if concealment screws up do twice in a day can we group em together to die down the lag or not?

Pack-hunter wrote:

I done it again

Pack-hunter wrote:

and again

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and again

#36300107623 11/29/2006 13:56 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

Screwed up

and again

and again

Ran stat hack back to MA

"The heart never speaks, but you must listen to it to know."
-The Oracle

#36300107741 11/29/2006 16:44 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

Dagonet wrote:

Screwed up

and again

and again

Ran stat hack back to MA

I did a ask a dev post on it, they say that they know the problem is there but they can't reproduce it, (BS), and then it's gotta be passed up the chain to Walrus ect. and be given a priority.

#36300107745 11/29/2006 16:53 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

The real problem is that without a solid or even semi solid repro case the Devs dont know where to start looking for the problem. When this is the case with a bug, usually, unless its prevents game play like a client crash or something that effects ever single user, they have other serious issues they can fix and move onto these.

Sometimes Devs will go back and hunt stuff down themselves but due to the amount of really broken stuff this only happens occassionally unfortunately.

I scanned through the thread and noticed alot of folks saying "Fix it!". Now I know many of you may just be venting but you also know that simply saying "Fix It!" isn't going to make it happen.

If you have a sure fire way to get it to occur alot please /bug it. What do I mean by sure fire?

Example:

Create <gender character> of <body type>
Goto to <X,Y,Z>
Face <direction>
Intiate Concealment by <method (macro, clicking the the hotbar, from the action panel, ect>
State: The problem is <explaination>
Result: Issue occurs #% of the time. (hopefully 100% but close to that would be helpful)

This is the type of information that is useful to the Dev to the team when they are looking to repro and fix issues.

#36300107976 11/29/2006 23:13 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

9mmfu wrote:

The real problem is that without a solid or even semi solid repro case the Devs dont know where to start looking for the problem. When this is the case with a bug, usually, unless its prevents game play like a client crash or something that effects ever single user, they have other serious issues they can fix and move onto these.
Sometimes Devs will go back and hunt stuff down themselves but due to the amount of really broken stuff this only happens occassionally unfortunately.
I scanned through the thread and noticed alot of folks saying "Fix it!". Now I know many of you may just be venting but you also know that simply saying "Fix It!" isn't going to make it happen.
If you have a sure fire way to get it to occur alot please /bug it. What do I mean by sure fire?
Example:
Create <gender character> of <body type>
Goto to <X,Y,Z>
Face <direction>
Intiate Concealment by <method (macro, clicking the the hotbar, from the action panel, ect>
State: The problem is <explaination>
Result: Issue occurs #% of the time. (hopefully 100% but close to that would be helpful)
This is the type of information that is useful to the Dev to the team when they are looking to repro and fix issues.

the problem about it, at least for me is that for a whole week of gameplay it will then happen like 2 or 3 times. although I do know it says

you have entered sneak

you have dropped out of sneak

and it's usually when you go from escape and evasion to concealment.

#36300108337 11/30/2006 09:29 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

problem is that they have some kind of advanced diagnostic tools

#36300133518 01/05/2007 10:01 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

noctivagus wrote:

Conceal is still alarmingly petulant, with increasing regularity.

The below is an example of such petulance, attempting to activate LUTS in conceal:

You can't conceal with enemies around you, this much is common knowledge. When there are precisely two people in the /who radius (myself and my target) however, non-compliance is all the more frustrating and nonsensical.

yeh that is kinda frustrating, the fact that the bug is also on the increase as you suggested is also a bit annoying.

btw although I think that going to english lessons after work is a great thing to do, there are teenagers (neolivesftw) on this boards who might not understand a word of what yer saying SMILEY

#36300134695 01/07/2007 09:08 Re:Concealment for the loss :-(

zdn16 wrote:

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Wow - that was deep man