Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing

15 posts · 2006-07-07 14:38:15 to 2006-07-07 21:46:34

#35500001471 07/07/2006 14:38:15 Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
Details please...


Loadout (yours/theirs)?

Buff/Debuffs running on you when you die?

Reconstruct through HL or Rez by player?

Level (yours/theirs)?


If you can get it in a controlled environment like away from majorly populated areas?


Does it occur after fighting mobs also or just PvP? also Duels?


Thank you.
#35500001472 07/07/2006 14:42:42 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
Duelist/duelist

Determination, duelist upgrade, hyper-dodge, hyper delflect, zion hardware requisition, (think thats everything)

h/l

50/50

was just a 1 v 1 near debir court

not tried being flagged whilst fighting mobs, or in duels yet, ill give it a go tonight

Was in interlock(this seems a major factor )
#35500001473 07/07/2006 15:02:11 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
Rifleman(me), Kung Fu (them)
I had expert rifleman, dedication, hyper-sense, hyper dodge
Recon both player and Rez
50 / 50


I was killed inside IL and flag was still on.


On this not its clear inside IL deaths leave flag on, outside IL deaths remove flag, at least thats the pattern most have seen.
#35500001475 07/07/2006 15:08:13 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
Non Hostile Server
Kung fu Gm buff, kungfu/karate style, hyper deflect and hyper dodge, mervs boon, determination, sometimes hyper speed.

Every time I die in Pvp combat while in interlock, when I return via a rez or reconstruction I am still flagged.
This never happens when I die and am not in interlock. 

I'm gonna do some research and see if I can find anything out.

#35500001476 07/07/2006 15:11:40 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing

Master Shadow/Master Assassin

Master Assassin buff and Spy Style

Both

50/50
#35500001477 07/07/2006 15:22:09 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
I found the bug. With help from a few machine operatives.

This is what causes it.  If you receive damage or a state after the server thinks you are dead (usually due to a ganking) your flag will come right back.  Notice how I take damage directly after I die, flag goes away right as I die, but comes back when I take damage afterwards.


Message Edited by ZaneZavin on 07.07.2006 04:26 PM

#35500001478 07/07/2006 15:30:02 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
Thanks Zane that is very informative, thanks to everyone else I will post if I need more information.
#35500001479 07/07/2006 15:32:21 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
Wholly empirical evidence, but what I've seen time after time: You die
in interlock, you stay flagged. You die out of interlock, you're fine.
It's like there's some flag that's supposed to flip, but when it
detects you still fighting an enemy (IL lag) it doesn't. Which, to me,
would indicate that this flag needs to flip later in the sequence, or
even better be auto-reset when the 'reconstruct' button is pressed
instead.



Edit: Lofl, 1337 posts. Oh god I'm sad :smileyindifferent:

Message Edited by RockyB on 07.07.2006 04:32 PM

#35500001480 07/07/2006 15:41:28 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
I think it is that when you are in interlock it lets you take damage after you die, due to interlock lag or something.  I don't think it's possible to take damage after you die when you are outside of interlock.

Message Edited by ZaneZavin on 07.07.2006 04:43 PM

#35500001481 07/07/2006 15:43:54 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
Thanks Zane you nailed it. It appears that the extra round of combat (another bug) that occurs at the end of interlock combat is the culprit. because the player can be effected even after they die this ends up flagging you.
#35500001482 07/07/2006 16:03:07 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
any chance you can also fix the bug that makes you have no is after you reconstructed when you died in pvp
#35500001483 07/07/2006 16:41:01 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
How to repro: Die and recon on Vector SMILEY
#35500001484 07/07/2006 16:44:38 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
You only stay flagged if you die before your character is out of interlock. Example: Moves like Triple Front Kick cause damage BEFORE the animation is done and makes it so you die flagged.

Any death occurance while in interlock while flagged will leave you dead with a flag.


Edit: Oops Zane said it first. Looks like I should look at the forums while playing WoW more often SMILEY

Message Edited by Roukan on 07.07.2006 05:45 PM

#35500001485 07/07/2006 18:09:22 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
Well if you are fighting in interlock and you die, IN INTERLOCK BY YOUR OPONNET then you stay PVP but if you are in interlock and you die BY SOMEONE OUTSIDE then your not PvP. Also you can suicide and be non pvp. I doubt it has anything to do with the trees, but then again your the dev SMILEY
#35500001486 07/07/2006 21:46:34 Re: Still flagged after dieing and Reconstructing
I've noticed that it also happens alot more when you have multiple people attacking one target, I guess it does the same thing that ZaneZavin pointed out.