Somebody please help me.

5 posts · 2006-03-17 18:21:00 to 2006-03-18 01:45:00

#23900002815 03/17/2006 18:21 Re: Somebody please help me.
Amanda, the people who forceablly jacked you out is not what Zion should be about.  People like me who do work for Zion believe in choice.  That why we use a red pill and a blue pill.  We present you with these two pills, and only offer you the truth.  The rest is up to you.  There is one thing lacking in your message.  Your choice, which pill did you take?  Please let us know if you actually made a choice, or were you force fed the red pill? 

Although the machines have a truce with Zion, I would still be weary of them.  They have alot to gain from reinserting you.  They have one more power source, and one more person to control.  Do you really want your life to be controlled by the machines?  While it is true that you have choices in The Matrix, these are just false choices made in a computer simulation.  That is how the machines control you, they present you with false choices, in a fake reality, while they control you in The Real.

Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best of luck, and that I hope you make the best choice for you, but only you can do that, not Zion, not the machines, not the exiles.  They can't make the choice for you, only you can.  In the end, that is what this is all about, it's about choice.  The choice of our lives control our courses, and at the end, controls The Real and The Matrix. 

~Confederate. 
#23900002822 03/17/2006 23:43 Re: Somebody please help me.
Was she reinsterted because you really cared about her, or is she just another power source that the machines got ahold of?  Did you even ask her if she was presented with the blue and red pills, or did you just assumed she was forced awake? 

I call for an invesigation on how she was awaken and how she was reinsterted! 
#23900002825 03/18/2006 00:38 Re: Somebody please help me.
And I find it amusing how we're still missing important data, like how was the awakening done, who done it, and did she understand fully what The Matrix was and is used for?  It is true I don't know Fenshire, but I still want to know the entire detail.  From the moment (and before) she was awaken, to the time she was reinserted.  The Matrix exist and runs on choice, even at the subconcious level.  We must make sure that these people that are being awaken and reinserted are given a choice. 
#23900002828 03/18/2006 01:04 Re: Somebody please help me.
Fenshire,

It is with great pleasure to see that you advocate choice among the people in The Matrix.  I too am a fighter for choice.  I do not believe in forceable awakening, and I always try to present these bluepills with a choice.  I try hard to make them realize that if they take the red pill, that they may be subjected to some truth that they may not be willing or able to accept.  It is sad to see reinsertion to happen, but unforuntely some of the red pills are not able to accept the reality, and can only accept The Matrix as the reality.  I'm sorry if I was too tough on you, but like you, I like to see choice be upheld by the Machines and Zion. 
#23900002831 03/18/2006 01:45 Re: Somebody please help me.


AlicethePattern wrote:

  Only 1% of the population is ready to Awaken.

  Those who are too old cannot deal with the Truth and their mind shut down.

  There are always instances, though not all instances, where Reinsertion is the better Choice. It is not whether or not we want to give more power to the Machines but what the person involved can handle. Most are not ready for the Truth and only breed resentment if kept from returning "home". Fenshire did what Amanda wanted, what she had already chosen even before she was given the pill. I'm glad she was able to find peace.

-Alice




That is true, I guess the choice must happen on both sides.  Zion must choose carefully who to awaken, not an easy choice to make, because they cannot get inside the person's head.  However, they do have a cut off limit, which I agree with.  Once the choice of who to awaken is made, then the person chosen must also make thier choice.  However, like you said a very small part of the blue pills are ready for The Real.  It would be a total shock to their system and they would either die, go mad, or beg to be reinserted, like Amanda did.  All I am intrested in is that these blue pills are given a choice.  That nothing is forced upon them.  I guess Zion must now look into the matter to see who was responsible for the forced awakening.  I hope you all have a good day. 

~Confederate.