Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

#23400000303 10/26/2005 06:06:28 Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

Very often I read posts about characters showing up at parties on other servers, I also hear about the level of interaction during events. Maybe I’m being misled, people are exaggerating, or is the vector server really getting less attention than other servers? Does anyone have a character on another server that could verify this?

If this is the case, why do you think Vector gets less love?

#23400000305 10/26/2005 06:12:48 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

becuase I haven't heard of a party on vector in months

#23400000306 10/26/2005 06:35:41 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

In the past month we've had 1 event, 2 black market parties, 1 random party, and a big tourney. All of these had little to no interaction while other servers seem to have had interaction.

#23400000307 10/26/2005 06:37:27 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

I stand corrected.

#23400000308 10/26/2005 06:41:42 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

Because as soon as someone turns up things get very hostile. People kill others to get more attention, people attempt to draw LET into combat, chat gets filled with "stop killing"

On recursion it is much better and easier, and it would seem they stay more in character there as well.

#23400000309 10/26/2005 07:03:26 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

To paraphrase what a factionmate recently told me: This server has become a daycare service.

I love Vector. I really do. Once in a blue moon I will hop onto Recursion or Syntax and eventually go insane with boredom. It's dull when I'm not constantly looking over my shoulder wondering if a Mach or Merv is in the area. I like being kept on my toes. But frankly, I don't think this server has earned the privilege of being graced with the presence of the LET.

Knowing what you know about the Vector community, would you want to come here if you were part of the LET? I would think that the LET members would want to be able to play out their role in peace without people spamming area chat and asking them to take their shirts off. I understand that there is immaturity across all servers, but on Vector is seems to have become the norm.

For the most part, I like to think that the majority of the Vector community is a mature bunch who want to interact with the LET as much as anybody. But as the saying goes, all it takes is one bad seed. Vector has a couple bad seeds, and for some reason they wear that badge with pride. Even if they get banned, it just adds to their ego. They give Vector a bad name. Hence the LET doesn't bother to show up, and the group of sensible players feel ignored.

We aren't being ignored, per se. The LET knows Vector exists, and they are making a conscious decision to stay far far away. Of course, this is just my opinion.

However, I think the solution to the problem could be more LET appearances. If the Vector community is given a little more opportunity to interact with the LET, and if we can stop all the petty bickering and trash talk for a few minutes, then perhaps Vector can reclaim itself.

#23400000310 10/26/2005 07:45:01 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

All i have to say manic is when you have 4500 subscribers across 3
servers the last thing you need to be doing is alienating vector people
will quit and to be quite blunt this game is dangerously close to
loseing enough to pull in the slightest profit.

Viral Vendetta goes out of its way to try to host and start events so
does Black market radio and so do many other factions the simple fact
that none of us are getting any interaction imo is wrong regardless of
how the staff feels about the server maybe if they would have
implemented a descent pvp system to begin with there wouldnt be such a
potential for greifing its not our fault that they cant control their
events and we shouldnt be punished as the mature end of the player base
.

But whatever man they can keep up the selective content this game cant afford many more mistakes -_-

^VS^

#23400000311 10/26/2005 07:47:18 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

Ironically Vector draws both the people who most care about the story from the films etc who want the most real experience a game can give them and the opposite type of player, the one who couldn't care less about the story and is only here to use the game engine in a souless manner (pvp at all costs i guess but I'm genuinely lost as to why these people dont go to another game)......as such the behaviour and maturity of the server is reduced by the frustration wherein these two groups meet. I can understand the LET being more reserved in their presence here tbh.... it can offer the very best and most rewarding experience, but it can also ruin the most well organised and well meaning of visits!

#23400000313 10/26/2005 08:00:44 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

I am starting to think at this point in the game that alot of us
deserve LET interaction we have stuck through the dark ages of this mmo
and we still are and we still continue to try to host our own events in
hopes that the staff will just interact with us and give us some hope
that theres a storyline.

If they want to be more reservd about it i feel thats a very wrong move
in many ways they have ways to freeze players at events and if need be
they should use it to help them run succesful to be quite honest if
this continues on this server me and many other people will most likely
cancel our subscriptions i cant justify paying for this game and trying
to host events when the Live Events Team wont even make an effort to
help our server because "they just dont feel like it"

^VS^

#23400000314 10/26/2005 08:19:51 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

Jeez, use full stops will you?

I think what also doesn't help are the type of events. The recent showing of the Frenchman was at a Dinner party. Something that as far as I know is new, original and something no one on Vector has attempted. The main "events" are either parties(ie all show up at a club and listen to the radio) or Fight Nights. We want the LET? We need to come up with something fresh and original. And of course, to let only let those who are of the RP persuasion know of it, otherwise, we have gank-fest.

#23400000315 10/26/2005 09:03:48 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

Here is a short list:

1. As soon as an LET comes to Vector about half of the server becomes ignorant and shouts and spams stupid stuff.

2. As soon as an LET comes to Vector it becomes an all out brawl and lags the area to hell.

I got MxO to participate in the story and interact with LET over pvp.
Now i love to pvp as much as the next guy, but when thats all we ever
do Im bored.

#23400000318 10/26/2005 10:03:11 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

No offense Trucidos, but I think your hostility illustrates exactly why LET avoids vector.

Message Edited by Yondo on 10-26-2005 11:04 AM

#23400000319 10/26/2005 10:06:04 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

there used to be alot more interesting RP events on all hostile servers, but every time one is thrown someone or a group of people think its a great idea to try and ruin it. example: a group of reds coming in a trying to ruin a memorial service for Vashuo on Enumerator. If LET might have shown up since it'd be a perfect situation for it to happen, but the whole thing got ruined...so they didn't show up. It may have been fun for those people during that time, but for the people who wanted to partcipate in that the experience was ruined. And in the eyes of LET who may have been coming it ruined it for the whole community. Over and over these same people set us back.

But since the idea of making RP characters and our own RP forum we can take that reputation back. If we make RP events JUST for our low level characters eventually these people will either stand around not being able to attack and ruin events or make a character themselves and join in. The Player Event Team is in the works to start getting our reputation back...the more people that participate with low level RP characters the more we'll be deserving of getting our LET characters back to this server.

PET (player events team) have 2 storyline events in the works right now and they will be for low level RP characters.

#23400000321 10/26/2005 10:24:39 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

I'm sure people spam and fight on other servers too. I don't think the attitude/actions of a few, should scare the LET away from showing the same kind of support to Vector. Truc wasn't hostile he just pointed out that there are people trying to put things together and that Vector shouldn't be segregated. There is virtually no attempt to interact with our player base.

Of course we are just assuming it's punishment for bad behavior but I'd like to hear it from the horse’s mouth.

#23400000322 10/26/2005 10:31:46 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

well, another things is...LET may have been visiting our server but we may not even know it....

considering the only way we'll ever know if a character came to our server is if someone tells us about it. If it was a secret meeting that happened the people involved might want to keep it under wraps and not tell anyone.

Hell, they could be coming in everyday and we may not even know. hehe

unfortunately

#23400000346 10/27/2005 04:39:18 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

p.s. do you think the dev team have full acces to their let accounts
and setup from their home? that would be a great solution for both them
and us. if they have any spare time and just feel like playin MxO they
can log in as a LET member and show up everywhere!

I was wondering that, and I had to ask myself whether it would be a good or a bad thing.

I get fed up of playing MxO after a short time because there is nothing
to do. That plus whiplash-related neck problems mean sitting at my home
PC for more than an hour at a time gets really painful and if the game
is no good I'm not gonna put myself through that (I need a new chair)

However that all gets questioned if I had a LET toolbox at my disposal ...

But for the devs et al ... they work on this game day in, day out. They
hear all the crap that gets flung at them by discontented users. I'm
pretty sure that after a week working, they'd just rather go home and
spend some downtime with their families.

#23400000349 10/27/2005 05:58:21 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

During the final days of Beta, when the LET was first introduced, I was
so excited for the potential of this game. I met with Morpheus the day
before he died, and from then on, I had been meeting wth various
members of LET. I saved a shaper, and met the Oracle and Seraph,
alone. I had private meetings with Merovingian. I had a meeting with
Flood that was crashed, and I defended him as my faction moved him to a
different location.

How many of you know what its like to be help in esteem with LET, and
then find out that everything you worked on is lost. Pointless. Didnt
matter any longer.

To me, when the LET was said to no longer be in existence, the game
took a turn for the worst. Certain people take time out of their days
to ruin things, that other people try to accomplish to make this server
better. For the LET to decide not to come onto this server is
completely biased, and is not how they should work. PBlade is right
though, theres only been 1 sighting so far with the new LET, and we
were also forwarned that there would be less interaction. However, for
the fact that there has been 1 sighting for that server, and we have
had many parties, and events, and tournaments, doesnt make it right for
the LET to ignore us.

I feel that LET interaction either needs to be unbiased, and equal across all servers, or non - existant.

#23400000350 10/27/2005 06:02:25 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

I was contacted by Morpheus and asked to arrange a meeting with him in early live. I was so stoked.

We had another meeting after that when I wasn't online.

I'm aware it was all scripted, but we felt special. Then we never heard
anything else. No acknowledgement by Morpheus, and then he was ...
temporarily despatched.

We're a large Zionist faction. We've been in the game for a year now,
we're generally a good bunch of people and we have genuine reasons for
supporting Zion and Morpheus' cause. Hell Baku was even a mod on the
beta boards.

I know that I'm fairly outspoken and intolerant of stupidity, but for
the most part we - as a faction - try and make the best of the game.

There was a time when we would've got recognition for that SMILEY

#23400000351 10/27/2005 06:13:46 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

Very true LostProphet.

There are a number of factions in this game that deserve credit for
what they have done, what they are doing, and what they will do.
Too many of the people that keep this game alive are taken for granted
and then those same people are gone suddenly. We at Viral
Vendetta came back the complete opposite as to what people remember
actually. We are RP driven now, and are comprised of some pretty
prominent players. As Trucidos said, FA, CoZ, LET, TBM, VV, and
some others im forgetting deserve recognition for what theyve
done. But it seems, that because we are on a hostlie server, we
dont actually get it.

#23400000352 10/27/2005 06:29:32 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

I've often regretted the decision to move to a Hostile server.

Come live, nobody knew what Hostile meant. I - from the description we
were given - assumed all servers would be the same (optional PvP) until
the truce "broke down" in Monolith's words. One day they just switched
it on for no reason and mad killing broke out. Then they added CQ that
do nothing.

I was the only faction leader (at the time it was just me and Baku)
online at the time and I made the call for CoZ to go Hostile. The
faction still support my decision, and we may have lost several good
players had we NOT gone Hostile, but looking at the depth of events and
interaction that go on on the other servers I can't help feeling a pang
of regret at the decision I made.

#23400000355 10/27/2005 06:43:11 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

I agree with LP

I joined Vector/Enumerator under the misconception we would have a choice to fight or not to fight, as it was so phrased by Monoliths description.

If for one moment I knew I would have ended up in the situation we are in now then I woulfd have told the faction to stuff Enumerator and made the move to Method.

But no, we're stuck here. And although I have thought tha that things have looked up for Vectorites over the past week, it's still nothing fantastic.

#23400000356 10/27/2005 08:52:55 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

Yeah well me and visc restarted here willingly he already had a lvl 28 on recursion when we restarted .

Call me crazy but i guess vectors my home ive gotten to used to an open pvp enviresment to be able to cope with leaving.

After the revamp hopefully Sony will realize the issue and implement safe zones such as clubs for events and also higher the pvp immunity from 16 to somthing realistic like 40 .

At this point 16 imo is just a joke when the majority of the player base is lvl 50 anymore

^VS^

#23400000365 10/27/2005 16:04:05 Re: Why do you think Vector has less LET interaction?

From what I have read in these posts, I can make a few suggestions, wheather they will be read by the people who have the ability to change things is another matter.

I'm a level 48, and have been playing this game for just over a month and a half, and to my recolection I have had 2 meetings with the LET, both to do with the death of the destroyer event, once with The Oracle and Seraph, and one with Agent Pace.

During both events, fighting broke out, and area chat was spammed,

In both meetings a "barrier" was setup around the characters so that the players couldnt get within say 5 meters of the storyline characters. There must be sme kind of dev tool that would create a "no pvp zone" within say 100meters of the characters, or just within the club or park in which they meet, the same can be said for area chat, why not just limit eveyone to 1 or 2 entry's a minute whilst still alowing character to character messages and faction messages.

Just an idea, also i would like to know Walrus' opinion on the topics discussed within this thread.