Devs Plz Read (assassin)

20 posts · 2005-12-09 08:44:45 to 2006-01-10 23:09:07

#11800000451 12/09/2005 08:44:45 Devs Plz Read (assassin)
I believe that the abilty Assassin should b a move like an assassination move like a 1500 dmage or stun the enemy....im 29 and getting pissed off of ppl justed keep following me when i'm running away so a good kinda ninja star (200 damage + stun) would b awesome cause ppl keep finding ways to get outta neuro dart and damaging throw (kinfe) plz read Devs!
#11800000452 12/09/2005 09:51:22 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
a dev reading this would think
u had never heard of bulldog (lvl 42 assassin abil, base 1750 damage)
and reverse bulldog (lvl 46, 100% chance stun)



then the dev would prolly shake his head sadly and possibly sigh. :robotsad:

#11800000453 12/09/2005 14:20:19 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
i understand that but when i PvP i go topsy turny than punt than spin throw i can't finish the **bleep** combo cause he has hacker buddies by the time i get him with punt.... an assassin is a stealth killer.....it takes like 30 seconds to kill someone and they no u there as soon as u stun them....than they go call there friends blah blah blah.....
#11800000454 12/09/2005 14:21:20 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
all i asked for is a 1 hit kill.....
#11800000455 12/09/2005 15:45:10 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
If they put something like a one hit kill in there would be no hope for anyone living.... Everyone would go to that tree and everyone would die without a chance of leaving a camped hardline...


#11800000456 12/10/2005 07:31:06 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
yes sure this is the matrix but when some1 puts a knife in ur throat i think u would b dead......and so u see like the cold war there were assassins ,spys, etc..... and they still fought hard......
#11800000457 12/11/2005 08:17:52 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
Yes but then we have our operators who according to the instructing book find whats killing you and block it off. Also it says we can't lose limps in the matrix.. So slitting your throat is useless.


#11800000459 12/12/2005 20:57:47 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
Do you think this is air youre breading?



It is the matrix, so you know that when you get hit by a knife, it is
only a virtual knife.... it is all in your head, and this is the ranged
damage resistance.



I had done the spy tree too, from lvl2 to lvl50. But the spy class is
an support class, like a guirilia fighter (I dont know the correct name
SMILEY )

The biggest problem that I have is the evade combat shild. When I am
stealthed and doin pvp with some friends, Im only looking for ppl who
has no shild, but if there is no one without an shild I cant help :/

If I try to destroy the ecs I get vissible and the only thing I can do
is run away, try to get invissible again come back and see that the one
has his ecs back again SMILEY



So, for pvp, you need some others, best is MAs, to get the ecs down from others.

#11800000460 12/13/2005 05:29:01 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
bout the sheilds i have a tactic...w8 for 1 all alone (as assassins always do) than break it...if u get him while he's running he won't notice at first til u get him with reverse bulldog or topsy turny...than finish him with bulldog (sept i'm lvl 30 dont no if this tactic is perfect....but better than walking in a group of hackers and break one sheild with the next second ur dead)
#11800000461 12/13/2005 05:32:31 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
1 more thing....assassin and stealth is all about finding weaknesses and alternate routes (thats y i love it:smileytongueSMILEY
#11800000475 12/19/2005 11:12:45 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
true...but being an assassin is also about being selective in how you pick your targets and how you fight.  Running into the middle of a PVP battle with a single target to hit with Bulldog will most likely get you killed every time.  You're a different kind of damage dealer.  You don't stand around and chip away like the rest of the operatives do....you find a target that you can safely attack...deal massive damage...and then get out and run as fast as you can, so you can re-invisi.   If you stick around, you don't stand a chance at fighting against the potential hackers and operatives that are surrounding you.


Being a spy assassin/shadow is about being elusive....hard to get to...hard to find...hard to kill....

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#11800000476 12/19/2005 14:42:04 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
true but whats an assassin to do about a hacker thats y i was thinking of "Assassination"?
#11800000478 12/20/2005 07:28:16 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
If it's just you against one hacker...the hacker is dead meat provided he has no shield up. (If you bounce off the shield, you could be stunned and then you're dead meat).

But if you're going to try to take a bunch of hackers on, or there's lots of them around...you have no chance...actually no one has a chance against multiple hackers.


Basically, if you manage to get a hit in on a hacker...hit him with reverse bulldog first.  That will stun him.  Exit interlock, back up a little bit...put on a disguise (you can run faster when disguised), and then run behind the stunned hacker and hit him with regular bulldog.  Can't say for sure, but that should honestly take him out.

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#11800000480 12/20/2005 09:47:42 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
yes true but the problem is those **bleep** sheilds as soon as i break it BAM stuned me and i am soon to b dead....or if i break sheild and hyper jump they justed put the **bleep** thing up again.....
#11800000483 12/21/2005 16:33:48 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)

a few suggestions


1 - level 42 bulldog 1,750. at level 50 i can get the damage up to 2,500 .


2 - for now, get a few MA friends. get them to pop evades for you and help them out by using Suplex, which causes off balanced and staggered so a high level MA friend can use KI Charged Foot Sweep, or Topsy Turvy, which causes Pacified so A) hackers can't hack B) people can't get out of it unless they blow their money on the 500k pill



#11800000484 12/21/2005 17:08:05 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)

1.by lvl 50 if u have clothes that help stealth damage tourte's gloves and Master Assassin bulldog takes 2250



2.I myself during PvP am usualy alone so i cant help any1 justed myself so i use for me im only 32 topsy turny,find weakness,disguise,punt,(if not dead i ue neuro dart run away a lil sneak and finish off with spin throw)but serisuly i have seen too many master assassins dying by hackers stun move that really makes me mad an Assassination move would b great....omg an idea popped up Assassination (and since all u find it unfair) the re-use timer should b liek 300seconds(5minutes)thats fair right?


#11800000485 12/22/2005 04:29:28 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)

I believe he means that there should be a way to get past
the shield that anyone has... being that your in stealth or
disguised.... in other words an ability that allows a user of
stealth/Disguised to not bounce back from a shield and go past it and
do his damage... I wont mind something like that......

In pvp: you have to wait for someone to break the shield
          : you yourself break the shield
          : Attack someone that has no shield
          :
or my favorite attack someone that is in interlock (if the enemy is in
interlock it doesn’t matter if he has a shield or not your going to
damage him)

Dev can you do something about using your gun while
in disguised.... It seems that every time you shoot something while in
disguised you loose you’re disguised.... which I don’t like because I
have to disguise myself every time I shoot someone...



#11800000488 12/22/2005 11:21:13 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
yes u took the words right out of my mouth a sneak move that goes thru sheild.......suppose i shoulda said that bit huh?
#11800000499 12/29/2005 13:00:49 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)





NumberXVII wrote:


I believe he means that there should be a way to get past the shield that anyone has...
In pvp: you have to wait for someone to break the shield
          : you yourself break the shield
          : Attack someone that has no shield
          : or my favorite attack someone that is in interlock (if the enemy is in interlock it doesn’t matter if he has a shield or not your going to damage him)






Everyone would be screaming then that Assassin is too powerful if they made assassins able to defeat shields and land an attack on anyone.  We'd be the next hacker.


Honestly out of #17's list above

1 - I never take that approach in PvP...if you bounce off of or break someone's shield, you still dropped your invisibility with no successful attack.  Sure, you might've broke the shield, but you're a sitting duck waiting to get picked off now, and you have to run and hide to re-invisi again...by the time you do that, they'll just bring the shield back up again.


2 - Hard to tell sometimes who has/hasn't one, but sometimes I wait to see someone else hit or break the shield...then I know where things stand.


3 - Oh yes...the favorite.  This has to be a unintended flaw of interlock somehow.  If someone has a shield up...and then gets into interlock with another player (by their own choice), attack them with bulldog and you're shield-free.  You'll get your attack in...and then roll out...but they can't chase you because they're still stuck in interlock with the other player.  It's cruel, but an effective way to assassinate someone effectively.

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#11800000510 01/10/2006 23:09:07 Re: Devs Plz Read (assassin)
didnt he mention he was a lvl 30 as well? wait till u get higher and can add some deflect to ur assasin build, then hackers will be no problem to u. when im assasin, and a hacker has his evade up, i run toward him knowing stun is the first move but praying i deflect it, cuz tech. its a 50/50 chance of stun (400pts max trans 400pts max deflect). so if ur lucky, break evade, jump back, nuero dart, run back a bit, disguise, reverse bull dog etc etc ( again this is all based on u deflecting his casts, sometimes it works this way sometimes not) Assasins are 1 on 1 fighters, if ur prey brings more ppl to the party just let it go. unless they are lower level than u, then kill them all!