What ever happened to strict formal?

2 posts · 2005-11-18 13:40:00 to 2005-11-18 15:16:00

#11100013915 11/18/2005 13:40 What ever happened to strict formal?
Ok, I want the opinion of my fellow recursionists on this.  It's
something that has been bothering me for quite some time now and I want
other people's opinions.  And before I begin, this is not a slam
or a flame, but just something that confuses the heck out of me and my
simple opinions about it.



As this game is based off of the Matrix Trilogy, there are alot of
things that place this game in the center of the Matrix Universe. 
However, there is one growing trend in our Mega City that keeps
snapping me out of the spirit of the Matrix.



Since when did redpills embrace the gangsta culture?  Where did
the Roca come from, where did the need to tell people you're going to
"pop a cap" in them come from?



Now, once again, let me reiterate, I am not here to start an argument
about why gangsta is great and why my opinion sucks.  I'm simply
stating, in comparison to the universe that the original Matrix put
forth, Zion, Machines, and even the Merovingian had their ranks full of
people who were soldiers, who were formal, and who would get their
objectives done. None of the redpills turned their pistols sideways to
fire, none of them called themselves gangsta. 



The trend of the day was trenchcoats and ties with a good pair of
sunglasses while you acted extremely formal.  That, to me, is the
spirit of the Matrix.  My opinion is that the introduction of the
gangsta culture into something that is as classy as the Matrix is
awkward.  Too awkward.  It is my belief that these two should
be separate.  Let gangsta go its way and let the Matrix culture go
its way.



And I'm not saying that gangsta is bad.  Do I like it? 
Personally, no.  I don't want to chuck it out of the Matrix,
however, because I simply don't like it.  I just have a hard time
picturing someone like 50 Cent arguing the philosophy of what it means
to be human with someone like Morpheus.



Added on top of it, the gangsta lifestyle is very focused on material
possessions: money, babes, guns, and bling.  The Matrix culture,
on the other hand, shuns these very things because all of the above is
made of code, even the babes.  The thought process is that since
it's not real, it's not worth worrying about.  This is one of the
reasons redpills don't deal in money, instead we deal in
information.  Perhaps we can get guns coded for us, but that's
only if we have something the other person wants, like a piece of
information.  But this is completely different from the concepts
that the gangsta culture puts forward. The only thing that overlaps
from gangsta to Matrix would be the concept of "respect", and even that
has different connotations between how someone who is gangsta sees it
versus how someone immersed in the Matrix culture sees it.



My final point here is that the introduction and use of the gangsta
culture, in my opinion, is something that is a complete opposite to
what the philosophy of the Matrix represents.  Even so opposite,
possibly, that it is adversely affecting The Matrix as a whole,
creating a movement away from what the Matrix really does stand for and
to something that it does inherrently not.





Ok... look, there's going to be some pretty powerful opinions on
this.  However, I would rather not that this thread turned into a
flame war.  I would like to hear some honest arguements that
include your own opinions put POLITELY, because I would like to hear
some people who are for gangsta culture being introduced into the
Matrix and what your views and beliefs on it are.  All in all, I
would like to see a good rationale of why we should let it continue to
exist and why it is not contrary to the Matrix belief.



On the same hand, people who are for my ideas, don't just simply
agree.  Add in your own views, your own facts that you can insert
to support the arguement.



I would like to keep this kinda like a debate and stay away from
unsupported opinions and flaming.  Hopefully we can do that,
because as I said, I would like to see a good, well-founded, arguement
for why gangsta culture should be here.  I am interested.

#11100013943 11/18/2005 15:16 Re: What ever happened to strict formal?

Just my quick thoughts:


Do I like the element of gangsta in the Matrix personally? No, not really, though I do understand it can have it's time and place.  As has been said before, this is an extension of the movies, and more blues are being awakened.  As such, they will breath new ideals, styles, personifications into the society.


Another note on Ballard, at the beggining of Reloaded, while he may not dress in RocaWear, he is definitely portraying a more gangsta attitude: "S*** Morpheus, I'll do it just to see what Deadbolt does to ya"


gonasin