Zions bad name on vector

5 posts ยท 2005-12-10 17:53:00 to 2005-12-10 23:11:00

#10800028750 12/10/2005 17:53 Re: Zions bad name on vector
few things to keep in mind.

1. it's about equal on each level of ganking. I saw 3 level 16 zions ganked last week and got an ear full of whining about how mervs and machines ganke lowbies all the time.

2. It's a hostile server meaning everything is about survival and taking down your enemy. The idea of peace and following a storyline is extremely difficult to any level due to the fact that at any point in time someone will show up at a party for example and kill everyone inside.

3. Almost everyone on this server is a sore loser, because they come to play and win. Some people play to win and others just like to be able to win without effort. When junk hits the fan people get mad and shout about how the other side sucks and everyone on there ganks newbies and other faction mates. (happens all the time left and right)



So whats the whole point of playing mxo? Dunno really, but I like the combat system. This whole fighting stuff I play to win, and that does mean doing some dirty deeds now and then. Does this mean I hate people on the other sides? No it doesn't, in fact I respect a lot of the people I've seen, and some are role models. Do I get mad when I die? no not really because there is absolutely nothing to lose. I guess what I'm trying to say is sure zion has a somewhat bad rep, but so does everyone else. Fact is you play a game to have fun not to really care about who fights who. Everyone talks about Honor and not ganking lowbies, but honestly everyone does it or has done it, and likes to complain when someone does it to them. Bottom line regarding that is, it's a hostile server, your joining here signed you up with an agreement saying "I've signed up here to possibly have my character die in pvp combat consentually or not". A lot of people don't realize this or care to remember it.

Also to add in. If it is and was possible to actually have more civil meetings between people, it would require more order within guilds and I don't see that happeneing anytime soon since several factions cross organizations won't do that. This will always be the case because there are always the most extreme minorities who do this. The scenario on Vector is complete chaos and it attracted those who appreciate its company.

Message Edited by Ryneheart on 12-10-2005 05:56 PM

#10800028761 12/10/2005 18:24 Re: Zions bad name on vector





Spadz wrote:








Ryneheart wrote:



few things to keep in mind.







1. it's about equal on each level of ganking. I saw 3 level 16 zions ganked last week and got an ear full of whining about how mervs and machines ganke lowbies all the time.







2. It's a hostile server meaning everything is about survival and taking down your enemy. The idea of peace and following a storyline is extremely difficult to any level due to the fact that at any point in time someone will show up at a party for example and kill everyone inside.







3. Almost everyone on this server is a sore loser, because they come to play and win. Some people play to win and others just like to be able to win without effort. When junk hits the fan people get mad and shout about how the other side sucks and everyone on there ganks newbies and other faction mates. (happens all the time left and right)















So whats the whole point of playing mxo? Dunno really, but I like the combat system. This whole fighting stuff I play to win, and that does mean doing some dirty deeds now and then. Does this mean I hate people on the other sides? No it doesn't, in fact I respect a lot of the people I've seen, and some are role models. Do I get mad when I die? no not really because there is absolutely nothing to lose. I guess what I'm trying to say is sure zion has a somewhat bad rep, but so does everyone else. Fact is you play a game to have fun not to really care about who fights who. Everyone talks about Honor and not ganking lowbies, but honestly everyone does it or has done it, and likes to complain when someone does it to them. Bottom line regarding that is, it's a hostile server, your joining here signed you up with an agreement saying "I've signed up here to possibly have my character die in pvp combat consentually or not". A lot of people don't realize this or care to remember it.







Also to add in. If it is and was possible to actually have more civil meetings between people, it would require more order within guilds and I don't see that happeneing anytime soon since several factions cross organizations won't do that. This will always be the case because there are always the most extreme minorities who do this. The scenario on Vector is complete chaos and it attracted those who appreciate its company.

Message Edited by Ryneheart on 12-10-2005 05:56 PM




How about this... your opinion has ZERO value with me and many others after posting a thread like this one..

http://mxoboards.station.sony.com/matrix/board/message?board.id=vectorgeneral&message.id=28591

And I'd suggest you get ready.. that is all.
























that's nice. It's good to see you that you feel your so very important in complete strangers' lives SMILEY. You have every right to hold zero value in my opinions, but please stop wasting your time trying to tell me your some big player, because I really don't care and it's completely off topic SMILEY. It's not fair to other people here that actually may have something constructive to contribute to this thread.


Psycho thats it's exactly it. the video depicts everything that happens day in and day out despite the fact that the quality is crap on it. Not by just zion but by everyone. Time and place is an iffy subject. Who decides it? Who makes the choice? It all comes down to trusting one another and thats not gonna happen. For example, I was in tabor park c about an hour ago and a merv was there. I waved to him, he waved back, and it was cool, but who is gonna stay in that area ? How did I know he may or may not call someone in? Answer is can't tell whether or not it was "nice peaceful meeting" and thats always gonna be the case.

Message Edited by Ryneheart on 12-10-2005 06:31 PM

#10800028769 12/10/2005 18:51 Re: Zions bad name on vector



Spadz wrote:




Ryneheart wrote:



that's nice. It's good to see you that you feel your so very important in complete strangers' lives SMILEY. (not sure where you get that but run with it boy if it helps) You have every right to hold zero value in my opinions, but please stop wasting your time trying to tell me your some big player, (again.. not sure where you got that one either.. I'm just an average guy that can spot a load of BS and someone dishing it out when I see it.) Stop trying to act likbecause I really don't care and it's completely off topic SMILEY. (Start trying to form complete thoughts and put them in sentances.) It's not fair to other people here that actually may have something constructive to contribute to this thread.

Psycho thats it's exactly it. the video depicts everything that happens day in and day out despite the fact that the quality is crap on it. (oh stop.. I don't know a single Merv or Machine org that does crap like you all did in that video. If we wanna gank we roll up and let it rock, not get 5 of our friends to bait a low level based on giving them some item.) Not by just zion but by everyone. (Wrong.. not all Zion.. just the tasteless unskilled people. Every Zion faction that I'm on good terms with agrees your faction is a large part of Zion's negative image... and you continue to help that bad image while others try rather hard to repair it.)

Message Edited by Ryneheart on 12-10-2005 06:27 PM




Now don't you have some bad fraps to try to edit? :smileysurprised:









Like I said off topic. Personal attacks in this thread are off topic save them for pms or ingame tells. Though you are right about my spelling and for the most part it's fixed SMILEY. My whole view here is that no side on server is devoid of the activities in that video. You may not believe it but it's true. Want to take steps to change it? I know how it could be done faster then months possibly failed negotiations between guilds and troubled individuals, but I know that far to few people here will be willing to work on it for it to happen.

Message Edited by Ryneheart on 12-10-2005 06:52 PM

#10800028780 12/10/2005 19:35 Re: Zions bad name on vector


Spadz wrote:


Ryneheart wrote:


Like I said off topic. Personal attacks in this thread are off topic save them for pms or ingame tells. Though you are right about my spelling and for the most part it's fixed SMILEY. My whole view here is that no side on server is devoid of the activities in that video. You may not believe it but it's true. Want to take steps to change it? I know how it could be done faster then months possibly failed negotiations between guilds and troubled individuals, but I know that far to few people here will be willing to work on it for it to happen.

Message Edited by Ryneheart on 12-10-2005 06:52 PM


Sorry you think it's a personal attack. I'm just pointing out the truth. I meant nothing personal by it. I'll save that for in game actions. :smileywink: Sorry, but Mervs and Machines have far more class, honor and skill than to ever have to resort to something like what you did in that video.

How long have you been on this server? Since it started? No? Thought not. I have. I've seen the type of people that play in each org and I know a few.

Now spare me your "I want peace" BS becasue after that vid you posted, I think it's rather obvious what you want and what kind of person you are as well as those in your faction.

Okay.. so maybe I'm being hard on Trinity. I offer them and all Zion a chance to show the rest of the server I'm wrong. Kick Nooblet here from Trinity and make a post apologizing for his actions because they don't reflect the spirit of that faction. I'll not hold my breath on that one.

Wanna know the difference between you and some of the "Classy Ganksters" on this server? Take my all time favorite ganker DarkSable. He ganks solo or with 1 or 2 others. He's a great player with a lot of skills. He often times ganks level 50s and he does it with style. I've watched him work. He doesn't get 5 level 50s from his faction to lure someone, shoot poor fraps video of him missing, and then post it.

Perhaps you might want to take some lessons.

Get ready.





heh thats funny. You ask a question and then answer it for me like you know anything more about me other then the fact that I fraps someone getting punted by 5 people.

"Now spare me your "I want peace" BS becasue after that vid you posted, I think it's rather obvious what you want and what kind of person you are as well as those in your faction." Well your right. I don't want peace, but a little more order would do. I think I stated before that this server is utter chaos almost all the time. "Kick Nooblet here from Trinity and make a post apologizing for his actions because they don't reflect the spirit of that faction. " I'm very glad to see you still feel you are so very important. "Classy Ganksters" What a funny word. It's ok Spadz I know your upset, jumping to conclusions about people and their motives, and not reading anything I've actually typed here today. It's ok because when all is said and done, none of this entire series of going back and forth really matters. Nobody cares about any of this, because this stuff is going to happen all the time anyway. It always has and it always will.
#10800028859 12/10/2005 23:11 Re: Zions bad name on vector



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Message Edited by Ryneheart on 12-10-2005 11:12 PM