no fun.

21 posts · 2005-08-19 14:58:06 to 2005-08-23 02:43:03

#10800001223 08/19/2005 14:58:06 no fun.
i havent been reading the forums (because since the merge theres been too much to sort through) so i dont know if someones posted this already but....


doesnt it seem like every change thats been made since the soe takeover has made this game worse? aim gone. world merge. live events gone.


there are now too many people to make friends without getting ganked mid-conversation and its impossible to keep up with old friends since my in game buddy list doesnt work. the few player sponsered events ive been too have gotten raided within minutes of starting.


is this just my own bad experiences or are there other people that are feeling a little discouraged by soe's "improvements"?


#10800001225 08/19/2005 15:18:06 Re: no fun.
Its you.

#10800001228 08/19/2005 15:36:19 Re: no fun.





Solidius wrote:
Its you.







Was gunna say somrthing then, but u know wot i really cba!



SMILEY


#10800001229 08/19/2005 15:38:23 Re: no fun.
cba?
#10800001230 08/19/2005 15:42:58 Re: no fun.
i figured. all you cats are just wettin yourselves because of the huge pool of people to gank.



cheers.

#10800001232 08/19/2005 15:54:41 Re: no fun.





Solidius wrote:
cba?






CAN'T BE ARSED!!!!!!


lol
#10800001233 08/19/2005 15:55:48 Re: no fun.

No u just need to get used to the "hostile environment.



Been like that since day 1


#10800001234 08/19/2005 16:09:15 Re: no fun.
Ok its probably my fault cause I didn't clarify. Look here, AIM gone
was neccessary. Its agreement between WB and whoever and its all
technical. It is not SOE's fault, they have their own chat system
anyways so they incorporated it in. And the only noteworthy thing about
AIM is talking to real friends and seeing what characters are on. Not a
big deal. Secondly, if you want to live in a desolate world where its
empty everywhere except Mara Central, you're one of the few. Now since
you are on Vector I assume you were on a hostile server before.
Obviously, you weren't on Enumerator and weren't ganked nearly enough
to drill into you that, Hostile means watching your back at all times.
And if you are getting ganked in mid convo why don't you find a safe
place to meet or talk through tells. Go on Recursion, you can make
loads of friends and not have to worry about getting ganked. The point
is, now there is a healthy population in the game making it more
immersive, not just the same Vendors and NPC's. And concerning your
player events being raided, seriously what server were you on before
this? Why does it have to be SOE's fault if some guys wanna go raid a
player event? Loads of people raid just for getting their name
remembered. I'm happy to at least see some changes going on for better
or worse, I'm tired of this game being at a virtual standstill for 5
months.



Now you sound like an amateur Anti-SOE warrior, but I assume that you
really just wanted to hear what people have to say. Otherwise, this is
usually where I began my rampage on people who just like to hate SOE.

#10800001266 08/19/2005 17:13:10 Re: no fun.

How was the merger bad ? Before the merge there were 9 servers with hardly any one in them, makig it look dead.i say that was 1-0 to SoE. Live events are not gone. There will be less live events but they are adding new content to the game so the isnt a "i only play when there is an event" game. 2-0.


If you cant take dying now and again then you joined the wrong server bro.  this is a Hostile server. PvP can happen anywhere at any time apart from the loading area.Maybe you can contact ppl from there?


As for your buddy list not working you should submit a petition about that.


and as for the player events being raided /shrug some people are asses but its their game, they pay for it and they can play it how they like.


Final result CryingKid 0 - 2 SoE


#10800001267 08/19/2005 17:15:17 Re: no fun.
so all the crap thats been piled on recently is coincidental? either way its upsetting.



i didnt hate soe before now but its been looking like theyve taken my
favorite mmo and drove it into the ground. if soe really has nothing to
do with that then thats fine i still feel like the games getting ruined.



as far as ganking goes ive only been killed 4 or 5 times since the
world merge. because i stick to low populated HLs. so im not throwing
this notion out there for MY sake. i just thought maybe there were
other people on this server who might like things a little quieter,
thats all.





#10800001273 08/19/2005 17:24:45 Re: no fun.
I say just give em time, things will work out for the better, I'm sure of it, I just have a feeling.  Or is it just my drink kicking in.
#10800001278 08/19/2005 17:42:33 Re: no fun.
Yeah well those "other people" sure aren't saying anything here. And
SOE has driven your favorite MMO in the ground? What about Monolith.
Where were your ignorant *CENSORED* comments then? For 5 months they have made
the game worse and worse and worse. Eventually, they sold it off cause
they are USELESS. How in the hell people say SOE has ruined the game is
beyond me. Has everyone just forgotten about how Monolith casually f'ed
the game over patch by patch, bug by bug?

#10800001281 08/19/2005 19:05:50 Re: no fun.
ignorant *CENSORED* coments? nice. just cant go a whole post without insulting someone....is that what the trash talk is for?



and ive been here since the begining of the game(not beta but still)
and i played just about every other day and enjoyed it. now i play one
or two days a week and if the one or two friends i talk to out of game
arent on its not even worth trying. i used to be able to find and
connect with kids ingame if i had no one to mission with. now its just
a bunch of 12 year olds brought on from enum and the lvl 50s that this
game has been made to cater to starting full scale wars. it just seems
that the game going down in flames has been due to the soe crossover.
but i dont know that could just be what it looks like on the surface...



i was trying to share my opinion of how the game has been going and you
jump down my dang throat. calm down man not everyone is into lvl 50s
pwning other lvl 50s nonstop for hours and hours. this forum can
reflect more than one set of views without vector turning into a "soft"
server.



please just dont reply at all if the only thing youre going to do is make snide comments its a waste of both of our time.

#10800001282 08/19/2005 19:10:20 Re: no fun.
and pascal?



you come SO close to making a valid statement. next time leave your 14
yearold high school intellect in the locker and talk like a big kid.
the cryingkid comment? yeah totally hurt my feelings.



this isnt a battle. grow up and have a conversation.





-cryingkid

#10800001350 08/20/2005 08:55:51 Re: no fun.

Wasn' t ment to hurt your feelings but hey if it did thats a bonus. you said not everyone is into pwning lvl 50's for hours well some people are.its what keeps the game going for me.


 i just dont agree with your reasons for not liking SoE. SoE are changing the game for the better man. i dont know what server you came from but i'm sure it was dead. and thats why the merged. maybe upgrade your computer ? i'm not going to repeat my reasons for liking SoE. If you dont like SoE then stop giving them money, its simple cancel your accout if you think they are driving the game into the ground.

#10800001351 08/20/2005 09:39:03 Re: no fun.
In response to me not being able to not go a whole post without
insulting someone, it seems you can't go a whole post without some
ill-concieved theory that SOE is the destructor of all. I'm not trash
talking, it is the truth. Half if not more of your comments are
ignorant, you just fail, or don't want to see that Monolith made this
game what it was. Before the merge, you only had those 1 or 2 people to
talk to cause there was barely anyone else on the server. Now that
there is an actual community, you can't find people to "connect with"?
And saying that its just a bunch of 12 year olds from Enumerator, is an
ignorant generalization. Its the internet, everyone feels they have the
right to be a *CENSORED*, and most people wether they be 12 or 40,
exercise that right. You can't stop someone from ganking (although in
China you have to be 18 to now....:smileyvery-happy:),
being an idiot, and just an outright **bleep**. Its like this is in all
games. You just picked the server where people can do it whenever they
want. And how has this game been made to cater to lvl 50's? For one,
there is absolutely no end-game content, the end game PvP battles are
horribly unbalanced due to hackers, and if you think about it. The
reason this game might have turned into a bunch of people just killing
each other, is cause Monolith didn't care to put in some end-game
content, much less some balances in classes. If you look deeper than
just the surface, its not hard to see how Monolith made this game what
it is. Plus, for the record I'm not into lvl 50's pwning other lvl 50's
non-stop, theres nothing else to do if you haven't noticed, and hell
I'm not even lvl 50.

#10800001352 08/20/2005 09:52:41 Re: no fun.
Seems like multi posts seems to be no use. Let me sum up what they are trying to say:


1.) Monolith screwed up the game and made it worst. Ask everyone that been playing.

2.) SOE just took over. It takes time to fix problems that your older brother made, almost like a Mom/Pop store taking over something like K-Mart when it has been going down hill quickly. Give them about another month, to two months, then make a comment if they are making the game worst or better.

3.) People who went to a hostile server from beta thought it was only going to be pvp during events, which they never cleared it up when they made the servers. Now everybody is used to the original routine of "Red = Dead" and "Kill, or be killed".


My suggestion if your having problems getting ganked and that, go to Downtown (since it never gets used) or in mission area when objectives aren't complete, nobody can kill you as much, if not, none at all.
#10800001364 08/20/2005 11:03:52 Re: no fun.
ill just reply to you. since you seem to be the only one who didnt take this post as a personal attack.


i really dont have some deep rooted problem with sony. i was just saying it SEEMED like when they took over from monolith things got bad. not for everyone either just for the way i like to play the game. im hoping sony mans(or womans?) up and makes some wonderful things happen with this game. thats my hope.  ive been playing this game for awhile. im not gonna give up on it after a couple weeks of hardship.


and as for getting ganked, it really isnt a problem for me. i know there are tons of people out there who want me dead just for being red so i watch my back. i hyperjump after jacking in. i code while sneaking. i mission in low populated districts. i do /who's every 5-10 minutes to see who i need to be watching for. i brought it up because i thought it might be a problem for other people....and i was wrong. if someone wants to try and gank me...thats fine with me....im good at getting away, i have ears, i can hear when someone starts a stun.





#10800001379 08/20/2005 12:38:58 Re: no fun.

/agree with solidus..  ive been happy with the changes.. i like the hostile enivironment .. and sony has only been in charge for a couple weeks, i dont know why people expect everything to happen overnight, SONY is a huge company and has the $$$ to invest in this especially if they see a profit from investing the money, everyone flaming and trashing the game in the forums.. do you think SONY is gonna be pressed to change things JUST FOR YOU ... no .. so everyone needs to chill-back smoke some off that greenback.. and *CENSORED* and take it day by day... and if your a lvl 50 whos bored out your mind im sorry that you have reahced that point im almost a lvl 20 and to me i have a whole new chapter infront of me in this game and comming in at this transition point will not only work to my benefit as i grow in the game i'll learn the new adaptions of the takeover..  its human nature to rebel against change because sometimes are fragile minds cant handle not being stuck to our routines... but live with it and keep it movining.. do something constructive.. high lvls.. organize tourneys on a weekly basis.. faction vs faction and if one faction wins the other side has to be non present in the matrix for a period of time.. etc...  be creative.. there is so much oppurtunuty to take it upon ourselves for this moment and make up our own events.. all the main charcters i seen in this world r on the boards daily... so the oppurtunuty to advertise and get people to follow is there... but ive only seen a few posting regarding tourneys / fights which is sad...



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Sokduo...

#10800002104 08/23/2005 02:28:04 Re: no fun.
GIVE ME ALL THE BUGS! I'M NOT HERE FOR A BUG FREE GAME!



Every MMO has that crowd that's there for the game more than anything,
and a bug free game at that... So they play for years in hopes that
things will change or whatever.







I AM HERE FOR A STORYLINE, AND I HAD TO EXCHANGE IT FOR AN ATTEMPT TO
MAKE THIS GAME A MYSTICAL BUG FREE ONE, SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T
EXIST>.







We true Matrix fans here for the story have truly lost to the hardcore
gamers and gankers. I'm here for a story, not a game, oh well.





At this point, it's safe to say that I welcome all of Monolith's
messing up on the game because they had intense deadlines to meet which
were humanly impossible, and were forced to release the game early,
they even tried to delay it because it was still in development, but
only got one chance at delay because the suits at WB want to make that
money for summer vacation asap. Say what you want about Monolith, you
never knew that they had deadlines to be met, and had to implement
things all the time which weren't ready.





We've had SOE for a month and look at downtown still, come on now.
Atleast we had a point to playing, now we have a barebones game with a
dinky chat system that only allows us to talk to people already in-game.



Then I'm supposed to waste my resources on x-fire as a solution? a
program that leaves ports open unless I download a fix from their
website, which I have just recently done, because I didn't realize for
2 years that my ports were open and still trying to communicate to the
x-fire servers. The same servers that relay to everyone else what game
you're playing.. So I got rid of that, and people are telling me to use
that? I rather use AIM but even then, it's not like I can use either
one from within the game..... It's a bit more easier replying to a tell
than it is switching to another program.





Give me back bugs, it's not as bad as having no live events or purpose
to this game. Look at the back of your MxO retail box, and think to
yourself, what the hell did you pay $50 + subscription rates for??



All you people say it takes time for SOE to
do anything, well guess what, Monolith was never allowed time. It was
forced to come up with a patch or fix ASAP.



SOE on the other hand can take up to one year if they wanted to, as
long as their was a fix somewhere down the line. Perfect example is
SWG, it recently got what it should've gotten 2 years ago.




As I've stated, MATRIX FANS lost against these HARDCORE GAMERS AND
GANKERS that want their perfect bug ridden MMO. There is no such thing
though. Good job.

Message Edited by boombye on 08-23-2005 03:40 AM

#10800002106 08/23/2005 02:43:03 Re: no fun.
When the merger was announced:



Game was buggy. Sound loop had been introduced and there were other
issues. They still had problems with the way Live Events were taking
place and all the developers were working on Live Event content, NOT
bug fixes. There were 9 worlds with very sparse population. I could run
around on Input for a couple of hours without seeing anybody sometimes.





When the merger was going through:



They merged the worlds == better. More people to either socialise with or kill.

Development of all kinds was put on hold. Why? Well when you've got the
entire development team moving companies, along with all the
administration involved, they won't have time for coding much. I
wouldn't be surprised if they all took a week or two off whilst SOE got
their offices and PCs set up and the HR department got everything
sorted with the payroll.

Then they would've had to take control of the servers, bring all their
processes into play for server administration, website administration,
etc.

During this time nothing was added.





When the merger was complete:



They took out AIM, and added the Station password connectivity in the launcher and changed where the buttons sent you too.

That's ALL that they added.





The only bad thing is that the servers are lagging so badly it's
unbelievable, but that's probably because nobody's had time to do
proper server maintenance.

So, nothing has been added to make the game crap. The game is in the
state it was under Monolith when the merger was announced, except it's
laggier (bad) but more populated (good)