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Buy-back exploit?

21 posts · 2006-04-13 15:29:17 to 2006-04-14 14:35:00

#10400105151 04/13/2006 15:29:17 Buy-back exploit?
Given the current controversy about bans, I thought I would ask if this will be considered an exploit before trying it.  The impending hotfix will temporarily raise red frag drops and vendors will buy-back abilities at 100% of the price.  I'm sure I'm not the only one that sees a good way to make $info here, and without the risk of the Marketplace.  Will coding abilities for the express purpose of selling them to vendors be considered an exploit? 

My opinion is this should be allowed, since we need all the info we can get with the combat upgrade.   Of course, I don't want to end up on the receiving end of the ban stick. :smileysurprised:  Let us know please.
#10400105152 04/13/2006 15:45:52 Re: Buy-back exploit?

Good Question SJ,


i know that since they somehow didnt add hotfix 42 to game, we shall know more tommorow


but if they dont say anything, then people get banned for doing it, its gonna be a travesty


however, i cant wait for the hotfix, i finally get rid of zen master lol


Caneda


p.s im coming back!! see ya real soon Cat Face lol

#10400105154 04/13/2006 15:52:00 Re: Buy-back exploit?
The market place already takes levels into consideration the default price when you place it on it I think, although I may have made that up.

If I didn't make it up though, then I assume the vendors will just be adapted to take into consideration the level. Even if I didn't make it up, I read it that it calculates the leveling cost, so even if you coded the new ability, you'd still only get the base price for it.

Edit: oops, I see what your saying now. I still think level 1 abilities will be charged at the current price now though (since you didn't have any leveling up cost)

Jeffers

Message Edited by jeffers on 04-14-2006 12:53 AM


#10400105155 04/13/2006 15:53:14 Re: Buy-back exploit?
if the devs dont say its an exploit b the launch of the hotfix.....MONEY MONEY MONEY MOOOOONNNEEEYY
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#10400105159 04/13/2006 16:32:16 Re: Buy-back exploit?
They're only buying it back for the amount of money you've put into the ability....They're not going to buy a lvl 1 ability and give you 8.7 mil for it.
#10400105160 04/13/2006 16:36:07 Re: Buy-back exploit?

however if that was to happen, hello my little code tool, lol (im jokin btw devs)

#10400105161 04/13/2006 16:46:02 Re: Buy-back exploit?

It's full cost, not full price.

#10400105167 04/13/2006 17:50:29 Re: Buy-back exploit?
Seems like the MxO staff is on vacation
#10400105171 04/13/2006 18:00:47 Re: Buy-back exploit?
Caneda wrote:

p.s im coming back!! see ya real soon Cat Face lol

I just looked and I can't believe I don't have a screenshot of that!  Oh well, this will have to do. Hey, is that a flying cat or a giant cat on the sidewalk? :smileyvery-happy:
#10400105175 04/13/2006 18:05:23 Re: Buy-back exploit?

You know how long it's been since I've seen a black cat? I totally forgot about them, now I'm wondering, how do you get them to appear again?



~On Topic, as long as a certain animal doesn't comment on this, it won't be considered an exploit! SMILEY


I might actually get to visit the white room! Whoo!


Oh, wait...that's a bad thing. Whoo?


Oh, wait...I'll be able to /duel the CSR! Whoo! Do you think he'll pwn me?

#10400105180 04/13/2006 18:11:01 Re: Buy-back exploit?
ZippydaSquirl wrote:


You know how long it's been since I've seen a black cat? I totally forgot about them, now I'm wondering, how do you get them to appear again?


It used to happen at one of the contacts, Beryl I think.  I'm pretty sure they fixed it though.
#10400105245 04/14/2006 01:31:43 Re: Buy-back exploit?
I honestly don't see the point in coding abilities simply to sell them to vendors. Even if the vendors don't take into account any coding cost discounts you may have and thus buy it based only on the base cost, you'll still only going to make a very small amount of profit. You'd be better off data mining for roughly the same amount of info!
#10400105246 04/14/2006 01:37:48 Re: Buy-back exploit?

Chuui wrote:
I honestly don't see the point in coding abilities simply to sell them to vendors. Even if the vendors don't take into account any coding cost discounts you may have and thus buy it based only on the base cost, you'll still only going to make a very small amount of profit. You'd be better off data mining for roughly the same amount of info!
You are never ever better of at Data mining at least not until they make it worthwhile  :smileytongue:
#10400105248 04/14/2006 02:10:24 Re: Buy-back exploit?
That was the point.
#10400105311 04/14/2006 05:21:03 Re: Buy-back exploit?
Chuui wrote:
I honestly don't see the point in coding abilities simply to sell them to vendors. Even if the vendors don't take into account any coding cost discounts you may have and thus buy it based only on the base cost, you'll still only going to make a very small amount of profit. You'd be better off data mining for roughly the same amount of info!

IIRC, level 50 abilities default to 700K or higher on the marketplace.  That's the price I'm expecting vendors to pay during this temporary buy-back period.  I guess we'll have to try it and see. 
#10400105405 04/14/2006 10:02 Re: Buy-back exploit?
I was wrong.  Level 50 abils sell for 1.25 mil each, not 700K.  Need I say more?
#10400105456 04/14/2006 11:27 Re: Buy-back exploit?
Sattakan wrote:
Wait, wait, are you saying that if I code Kung Fu Grandmaster, the vendor will buy it back for $1.2 mill?

Yes: $1,250,000.  It costs about $93,000 to make.  I had three subs in my inventory, so I just made about $3.5 mil in a couple of minutes.  Now, I have to go farm for more, so it's hard to say if this is an exploit, especially since the buy-back is temporary.  I salivate over the $info I can earn doing this, but I don't want to get banned.
#10400105461 04/14/2006 11:38 Re: Buy-back exploit?
That's the question: Is this side-effect intended or even allowed?  Given that the cost of upgrading new abilities is quite high, the devs may have had this in mind, or at least let it pass, but I can't speak for them.

Buy-back of any ability: Intentional
Increased frag drop for creating abilities: Intentional
Using these to earn $info for upgrading abilities: Unknown

I hope Brewko isn't the first one to answer. :smileysurprised:
#10400105478 04/14/2006 12:05 Re: Buy-back exploit?
gothique wrote:

Looks like a mistake to me, selling stuff 10x their real value? But it could be a temporary generous gesture.

What rfalias said.  Go see a subway vendor downtown and you'll see how much level 33 abils sell for.