Morpheus' return is invevitable.

3 posts · 2006-02-14 12:23:00 to 2006-02-14 13:18:00

#10400080276 02/14/2006 12:23 Re: Morpheus' return is invevitable.

DeBarlo wrote:
Hmm... 10 pages and not a word of "betrayal" before that. Then all of a sudden it's bam-bam-bam. Would that be classified as forum ganking? Nice bait, but I won't bite.
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But thanks for the groundless "self-promotion" flame. Duly noted.

Message Edited by DeBarlo on 02-14-200602:19 PM

Groundless? Are you kidding me? Announcing in public what was meant for as Musu said only 114 people out of 45,000 and your faction decides to take it upon themselves to announce this? How is that a groundless accusation?

Arachnis wrote:

The time has come for me to reveal a secret that only a select few have known about for the past few months.

Hmm ok who gave you the right to do so? Who determined it was the right time? Did Morpheus? No. You decided and took it upon yourself, and in I might add, quite a arrogant self rightous fasion.

As for the reason why this thread is getting hit now, is due to the fact that not everyone reads the general forum as the signal to noise ratio is quite low, and a portion of MxO'ers don't feel the need to wade through all the pedantic "look at me, I'm uber" posts, to find an occasional interesting/thought provoking post. But hey, at least you're getting attention.

Suffice it to say, this information has been known for awhile... a LOT longer than a few months, and outside of a few subtle hints (which btw no one ever caught on to, or at least never PUBLICLY admited to catching), this information hasn't been leaked to date. Honestly, how else can we take this other than attention whoring? Who are you to say when it's time to release this to the general public? If nothing else, it will erode the impact of the return of Morpheus.

Morpheus said HIMSELF that he had a reason to leave, and quite frankly, who the hell are you to question Morpheus' reasoning and actions? You just disobeyed his DIRECT order, and potentially ruined his plan. How can any true follower of Morpheus look at this any anything BUT a betrayal?

Every causality of releasing this before it's release in an official canon release, has a negative impact, and I for one can see no other reason to do so, than to drum up a perceived eliteness and importance for you and your faction. Mature move guys. I for one don't read general unless I have a direct link, and will continue to ignore the mass of children that inhabit said space.

Oh and as far as not biting, your multiple paragraph response in context contradicts your not biting statement. It's called honesty and integrity. Perhaps you should try it instead of spinning everything for your own egotistical purposes.

Message Edited by KernelPanic on 02-14-200612:28 PM

Message Edited by KernelPanic on 02-14-200612:38 PM

#10400080288 02/14/2006 13:03 Re: Morpheus' return is invevitable.

Arachnis wrote:

KernelPanic wrote:

Groundless? Are you kidding me? Announcing in public what was meant for as Musu said only 114 people out of 45,000 and your faction decides to take it upon themselves to announce this? How is that a groundless accusation?

Arachnis wrote:

The time has come for me to reveal a secret that only a select few have known about for the past few months.

Hmm ok who gave you the right to do so? Who determined it was the right time? Did Morpheus? No. You decided and took it upon yourself, and in I might add, quite a arrogant self rightous fasion.
"No what happened, happened and couldnt have happened any other way." -M
Please do not spite me for merely trying to bring about the possbility of his return. When and if he does he will need all of our support. So do you really wish to thrwart would-be allies? Whats done is done. Rather than argue what gave me the right why not talk about what we can do in the meantime. There are many other things going on inside the Matrix. The truth on this subject will come to light evenetually. Whether Morpheus passes judgement on me, that is for him to decide. I am not concerned with your opinion. I will do what I feel must be done to further the his cause. The insipid remarks of his mental state make me outraged and hopefully are put to rest through this conversation. Morpheus knows what he is doing. So do we.
-Arachnis

Thank you for backing up everything that I stated. YOU did so on your own accord, and after you screw up you simply shrug and say what's done is done, instead of taking ANY responsibility for your actions. Way to weasel out of your actions and betrayal. Shirk off all responsibilities for your actions.

The fact of the matter is Morpheus TOLD YOU DIRECTLY not to release this information, and you thought your judgements were more important/better/uberer. What else is there to say? The simple fact that you ignore a great deal of my post, and haven't dealt with any of the issues I've put forth other than shirking your actions, speaks volumes for your character, and your actions, and was the point (which you obviously missed) of my rantactular missive (sarcasm there peeps).

#10400080292 02/14/2006 13:18 Re: Morpheus' return is invevitable.

DeBarlo wrote:

KernelPanic wrote:
DeBarlo wrote:
Hmm... 10 pages and not a word of "betrayal" before that. Then all of a sudden it's bam-bam-bam. Would that be classified as forum ganking? Nice bait, but I won't bite.
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But thanks for the groundless "self-promotion" flame. Duly noted.

Message Edited by DeBarlo on 02-14-200602:19 PM

Groundless? Are you kidding me? Announcing in public what was meant for as Musu said only 114 people out of 45,000 and your faction decides to take it upon themselves to announce this? How is that a groundless accusation?

Apparently you did not read my entire thread. You'll find the answer there.

Well I was only dealing with two points and trying to focus the conversation into what I felt were the core issues, but if you'd like me to disect your flawed logic, your wish is my command.

DeBarlo wrote:
Hmm... 10 pages and not a word of "betrayal" before that. Then all of a sudden it's bam-bam-bam. Would that be classified as forum ganking? Nice bait, but I won't bite.

I think I covered that in my post (which btw you ignored in your response as well. Hypocritical?)

DeBarlo wrote:
There has been a lot of "sensitive" information that has disseminated through these boards, not just this bit about Morpheus. Shall we browse through, repost the threads, and label all of those people as traitors as well? Most of the discussion about Morpheus is that he's dead somewhere or that there's some curiosity about his body. This thread was, in part, to give followers of Morpheus hope.

I don't care about the others, nor was that my point. My issue is with you and your faction disobeying a direct order from Morpheus and trying to spin your betrayal as a supportive gesture, when in fact in can only be contrived, since you disobeyed him, as attention whoring. Again who are you to decide for everyone including those who are true followers of Morpheus, have kept silent, as well as all those you're letting down by spilling the beans and potentially recking the storyline and giving SOE even more ammo to argue that MxO'ers are nothing more than arrogent children, which they can then use as ammo to kill the game. Corporate politics. You should read up on it sometime.

DeBarlo wrote:
Yes, one year of loyalty (and after two years of being in the community, personally)... I'd think you'd at least trust us to know what we're doing. Think of this: Niobe is launching a vendetta campaign against the Merovingian and is risking an alliance with the General in the process. Not only is that a dangerous partnership but by concentrating on that we're being thinned out in other areas, such as the front we must maintain against the Cypherites. The Cypherites are growing in numbers and even in a little chat with Merrit she admitted, "I assure you, the Cypherites are not at all forgotten, DeBarlo. They remain as large of a threat as the Frenchman, if not larger."

Before this post I had never dealt with you or heard of you. My only experience with you and your faction is here and now. I trust no one until they've proven themselve. Trust is earned, not given, even amongst potential allies. Morpheus understood this.

DeBarlo wrote:
So... remove the vendetta and our sudden urgency against the Merovingian is lessened. Now we won't get flanked by the Cypherites.

Besides, those that don't follow Morpheus tend to believe that most eveything he says are just the words of a fanatical loon. So where's the risk? Some are now given hope and, hopefully, more concentration will be given to this growing situation with the Cypherites.

So what you're saying is that due to the Cypherites, you felt it justified to go against Morpheus' wishes and take matters into your own hands. You purport to know all the angles and everything that's going on behind the scenes and that this was a wonderful idea. Explain to me HOW you can argue the logic that you disobeyed Morpheus? Why didn't you go to those people who are losing faith directly and try to bolster them in closed communication instead of broadcasting Morpheus' dirty laundry for everyone including Machine and Merovingian to see? Do you even understand strategy and tactics in a war of information? Do you have any understanding of the fact that until this point Morpheus had successfully pulled the wool over everyone's eyes? And you brought it upon yourself to remove the wool from the eyes of the enemy. Yes you bolstered the faith of the Morpheus followers, but you also tipped his hand to numerous enemies and gave them time to prepare. Oh yes you're a tactical genius alright.

DeBarlo wrote:
But thanks for the groundless "self-promotion" flame. Duly noted.

Already dealt with that ironic line in my previous post. Now I've dealt with the entirety of your post, care to do the same with mine or are you going to leave out the bits that you don't agree with and hypocritically spin it some more?