Oh and prim3, i know you probably weren't there back when Endless was a zion faction, but let me lay this down, back before the merge, you know, when Endless was zion, it was pretty good, each faction got it's chance at taking over mara, there was an order to things, but then, the leaders of Endless decided that they needed to "even things out", boy oh boy was that funny, the fact that we happened to take over a pvp battle should be of no consequence to you, because hey, you have about 3 times the amount of level 50s that zion does, oweing it mostly to the merge, and we won the battle. And also, hyper-jumping away and rolling out aren't as wimpy as commiting suicide before dying, which is what i see all the time when zion beats all the cq hungry meros running around, so take into account that Endless used to be zion, and that AE and DE pretty much raised your faction. Have fun thinking about that one 